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Schumer breaks news to Booker on Senate floor that Republicans are planning to sidestep parliamentarian on current policy.

“They don’t care anymore about norms, about rules, and even about going nuclear,” he says

Booker says it’s “further breaking of the Senate”

“Next time around, there’s no going back now”

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

During the Bush admin, conservatives LITERALLY FIRED the Parliamentarian

In 2001, he determined that Senate rules allow only one budget bill per year related to revenue to be immune from filibuster, a process known as reconciliation...Later that year, Dove ruled to remove a Republican provision to allocate over $5 billion in the 2002 budget for natural disasters. Following Republican anger about these rulings, he was dismissed by Republican Majority Leader Trent Lott

This fake ass advisor position serves at the discretion of the Senate Majority leader and always has

These FUCKING LOSERS don't even know their own rules or they presume we cannot remember more than a couple terms back

Or this is some pathetic attempt at face saving ("we didn't fire the Parliamentarian when we were in charge because noooorms sweaty")

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago

They would have fired the parliamentarian if she had blocked them from things they wanted to do, like increase police funding or weapons to Israel

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago

"If we fired the parliamentarian, our jobs report would be negative."

[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Lmao. Remember when they couldn't raise the minimum wage because the Parliamentarian said so?

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago

We really wanted to, honest! But the got danged parliamentarianarino said "no" and we can't 😥Donation money please! the-democrat

[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

a party of clowns

"They found a way around the parliamentarian. They found a way around the rules of the Senate. They found a way around the ideals of reconciliation," Booker said of congressional Republicans. "They are deciding that the way we're gonna do this is break the Senate and make up our own rules. This is how they're gonna get a bill through that gives trillions [of] dollars of tax cuts to the wealthiest in our country who are doing very well."

While refusing to "hate on" wealthy Americans, Booker also had a message for them: "You don't need tax cuts, especially not that are gonna be given to you on the backs of the poor, on the backs of our elders, on the backs of our children, on the backs of expectant mothers, on the backs of my mom's, your mom's Social Security."

'They found a way around the parliamentarian. They found a way around the rules of the Senate. They found a way around the ideals of reconciliation' should be a site tagline

[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 day ago (3 children)

My favorite part of this is that whenever anyone brought up the idea of “just ignore the parliamentarian” when Dems were in control, the response from the establishment was always, “we can’t do that, it would just give Republicans license to do the same.” And then the Republicans go ahead and do it anyways.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's infuriating how Democrats always use this excuse. If Republicans think they can get away with murdering or imprisoning every Democrat, they will murder and imprison every Democrat. This has been obvious for decades Republicans don't care about norms or decorum. They care about wielding power.

Obama did this shit with the ACA. Clinton got himself impeached while Newt was pulling the same sexual misconduct. Carter let Nixon undermine the Vietnam treaty. The list goes on and on and we haven't even talked about state or city-level shenanigans.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

At least LBJ was spying on the republicans first

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago

It's almost like it's obvious to anyone that the Republicans would do it just like they changed the rules for supreme court rules. And any other rule that gets in their way.

But it's not like the dems actually want to make progress so makes sense they'd ignore those facts

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

Bet that if the Supreme Court rules something against Trump wishes he put 5 new judges there.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They found a way around the rules of the Senate.

As far as the constitution is concerned, the only rule in the Senate is that the Senate makes the rules. If you hold a majority and the "rules" prevent you from doing something, you can literally just change the rules.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The fact that many sitting democrats seem to not understand this is infuriating. I know they’re paid not to understand it, but I do think some of them genuinely do not understand that.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago

We seem to have reached some stage of political development where most elected officials are not Machiavellian plotters, but rather, they're true believers. We see the same thing happening with Republicans as they cut government institutions that US power and market stability relies on, simply because they're deep state and woke.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

I had assumed the republicans would shitcan the parliamentarian. But this is so much better. It's so much funnier!

"You don't need tax cuts..."

But they're gonna get astronomical tax cuts anyway!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

refusing to "hate on" wealthy Americans

weak and dumb

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago

folks how do I automate shocked-pikachu posting on every news post im getting tired of typing :pika and clicking on the image every single time 😭

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 day ago

don't be sad that using the parliamentarian as an excuse to not raise the minimum wage is over, be happy that it happened

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You can do that?????

Theoretically, the Senate could overrule MacDonough or even fire her, though she is a respected nonpartisan figure who has worked under both Republican and Democratic majorities dating back to 2012. Ultimately, the same real-world arbiters of deficits and debt that may disregard “current policy” scoring would look very dimly on an open GOP revolt against the budget rules and their referee.

So, yes, MacDonough’s decision is likely to be fateful. At stake is nothing less than Donald Trump’s whole legislative agenda.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/senate-parliamentarian-could-derail-trumps-entire-agenda.html 9 hours ago

how do these people wake up everyday and keep on thinking 'yep I certainly have the intelligence and gumption to be speaking truth to power journalist'? lmao

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Also - the GOP already fired the parliamentarian at least once. They did so during the Dubya administration.

MacDonough’s decision is likely to be fateful.

There's a much higher likelihood that Santa Claus and his flying reindeers are real.

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Holy mother of fuck. If the writer was a recent college grad nepobaby - I might overlook some of the stupidity. I, myself, was an idiot in my 20s. But the writer dipshit has been writing for pollitics for at least a decade.

By Ed Kilgore, political columnist for Intelligencer since 2015

I googled him. He's gotta be at least ~60. Good grief.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If I was a political columnist and I was structurally held back from pointing out the obvious reality of how a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie worked for decades, I too would end up thinking the Parliamentarian mattered.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can do that?????

They've done it before

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

gotcha, carry on rat-salute-2

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 day ago (2 children)

naahhh, this is just media hyperbole. Not even the republicans would ignore the parliamentarian, that's just beyond the pale.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We're crossing the Rubicon

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

Have we bitten off more than we can chew?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

But at what cost?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Parliamentarian, that's that show on Disney+ with the helmet guy right?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

No that's the guy in The Matrix sequels

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

"Next time around, there's no going back now"

Republicans have repeatedly overruled or fired the parliamentarian for years and years. Democrats later tried to pretend they were an absolute roadblock for campaign promises.

They will "go back" immediately.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

NOT THE SENATE PASTAFARIAN!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I cannot believe the republicans just do whatever the fuck they want and give the finger to stuffy rules lawyers who try and say no, I cannot!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What? The thing we told them would happen has happened?!

No one could have seen this coming. 😲

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

An april fools joke would be the republicans actually following the "rule of law" and the dems being the ones ignoring it.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago

There's a ton of Strom Thurmond posting on Bluesky right now. I know it's hardly breaking news but I'll never get over how much the libs <3 purely performative bullshit. My god.

Breaking Thurmond's record while talking about the Civil Rights leaders being called home is an incredible moment in America.

This is one for the history books.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

fuck the parliamentarian coming straight from the underground

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cool. So now that republicans (as always) set a precedent to get what they want. You dems have no excuses right?

Come to think of it, how come democrats never gerrymander? How about the restrict voting in rural white communities just for a start? At least then they’d benefit from job security.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Republicans already set this precedent decades ago. Democrats retconned the power of the parliamentarian.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

YOU CAN DO THAT??? shocked-pikachu

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

What do you mean they dont care about norms?? maybe-later-honey biden-horror

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