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[-] [email protected] 118 points 9 months ago

Once again, liberals would rather kowtow to fascists than give an inch to the left.

[-] [email protected] 91 points 9 months ago

In Macron's case he had been doing a very clever strategy of defeating the far right by adopting all their policy positions. Very clever stuff, love to see political mastermind at work.

[-] [email protected] 54 points 9 months ago

kamala-coconut-tree Macronism with coconut characteristics

[-] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago

What's that they say about scratching a liberal? thonk

[-] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

Scratch behind liberal's ears and a fascist barks.

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[-] [email protected] 96 points 9 months ago

For fun (to torture myself) I decided to check out what r/neoliberal has to say on this, since they're the kind who will scream about "democracy" so much. atlantic-council Unsurprisingly, they're trying to either downplay this or outright support Macron's tactics. I even saw one of these dweebs with a NATO flair say: "Never give the left an inch of power." Lmao. Really dropping all pretense there. pigmask-off

[-] [email protected] 63 points 9 months ago

It's why we must make no excuses for the terror when it's our turn, they must be purged

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[-] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago

it's amazing how fast the mask falls off with these types.

[-] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago

It's why I don't hold my punches very hard. It takes very little scratching to get them to admit that they will abandon "democracy" or permit violence. At least once the mask slips you can have a real conversation

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[-] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago

They're much more forgiving with the far right. The mask drops fast as hell when it comes to the left

[-] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

It's not surprising. The hierachy of support for fascists goes like this:

  • Fascists themselves
  • Liberals
[-] [email protected] 78 points 9 months ago

stability

there's that word again

[-] [email protected] 63 points 9 months ago

There was this guest on citations-needed a few years ago who said in an aside "at a certain point the word 'stability' should make your skin crawl" and it's been rattling around in my brain ever since

[-] [email protected] 47 points 9 months ago

Found it

Nima: Well so it kind of reminds me of on the eve of the Iranian revolution Jimmy Carter called Iran under the Shah like an ‘island of stability’ and its just because we like them and we prop them up and then as soon as that changed now they’re evil and terrifying.

George [Ciccariello-Maher]: Oh, of course. And like there’s a certain point where the word ‘stability’ should make your skin crawl.

[-] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago

Jesus. Black magic pulling that quote up nice Google-fu comrade sankara-salute

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[-] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Bolting the lid on my pressure cooker to keep it stable macron

[-] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

For a safe

and secure...society

unlimited-power

[-] [email protected] 75 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Wolfgang Schäuble, a powerful advocate of austerity policy in Europe, succinctly summarized the extent to which electoral democracy is subordinate: “Elections cannot be allowed to change economic policy.”

from https://redsails.org/why-marxism/

German Minister of Finance Wolfgang Schäuble, advocate of austerity policy in Europe, was less crass yet no less succint in 2015:

Elections cannot be allowed to change economic policy.

from https://redsails.org/brainwashing/

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[-] [email protected] 75 points 9 months ago

Didn’t he insist on the elections because the far right was more popular than him lol

[-] [email protected] 67 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The entire point of the election was to hand the government over to the far-right, and when people voted to do the exact opposite of that... Well here we are.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

German 1932 Reichspräsident election, but as farce.

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[-] [email protected] 71 points 9 months ago

macron : "You don't have the balls to do shit about it."

French public:

[-] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago

I hope so. I hope a spark of rebellion and "fuck you" runs through the public and they retaliate by voting left even harder. A kind of "how dare you challenge us" outcome would be perfect.

I question whether there is enough public with the class conditions necessary though. No matter what happens a certain number of people are entirely locked up into voting for their interests and those interests will be macron. As long as he and the right can lock up 25% each they can fuck the left over forever.

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[-] [email protected] 69 points 9 months ago

He has invited Le Pen to talk about it, so the neoliberal fash alliance is likely going to happen.

Imagine that, liberals being more willing to cooperate with fascists than even succdems.

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[-] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

patrick-lenin what did I say dawg, I told you

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[-] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago

All Gaul should be divided into three parts.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago

Get that balkanising freak gunther on it

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[-] [email protected] 47 points 9 months ago

macron

Would be a good time for some good ol' fashioned rioting in the streets.

[-] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago

They should have some old guillotines just lying around.

[-] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

neoliberal coup

The fun part is that it is absolutely legal and constitutional to do so. Generally the french president is a de jure dictator and has all legal means to become a de facto one very easily. In that case, the french president is the one who decides alone who is the prime minister. The theory that he had to pick a NFP prime minister is rooted in an unofficial tradition that was upheld by his predecessors but only because they thought it was a smart move to play compromises. Macron doesn't need any real changes to have full power, he's simply the first one to actually abuse the full potential of the constitution

[-] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago

A lasting gift from DeGaulle

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago

It's funny how it's always the liberals who lay the political groundwork for fascists taking power.

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[-] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago

Respecting the norms and institutions so hard right now. Don’t forget Vuvuzela election fraud 1984

[-] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago

Somebody get Juan Guaidó on the horn—we need an interim President. guaido

[-] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago

Jean Guaideaux

[-] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago

First as tragedy

Then as farce

[-] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

macron I told them they already have a PM.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The 18th Brumaire of Emmanuelle Macron

[-] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I don't really get what's so surprising. The National Assembly has a 67% right wing majority, and Macron has always rejected collaborating with the left. "But the left won the election" is just cope.

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

I'm a little unclear about the specifics of the French system, but this essentially means Macron is trying to run a minority government and appoint a PM from his party, right? So...he'll need the fash to give him supply (I think a coalition is unlikely) and...why would they do that when forcing a deadlock and another dissolution would just hurt Macron at this point?

I guess Macron could just not, and deal with collapse of supply since he's the only one who can dissolve parliament and both the right and left would need to agree to impeach, but then it's like a US budget crisis on steroids.

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[-] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

Getcha yellow vests ready

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