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Like everybody in France under 45 is fluent in English, and who the fuck wants to talk to an older European. Every single French colony without exception is phasing out or has phased out the use of French as France was such an awful colonial power. Did you know that Eclair is pronounced aey-clare? This does nothing for me. I guess some people want to read Les Miserables in the original Foot Mold Language, just like random people enjoy reading Ovid or Cicero in Catholic script.. And just like Latin, fuck that everything has genders and complicated conjugation.

I swear, the French teachers in school were trying to impart the vibe that if we know the French language, French women would have sex with us.

I refuse to defend any facts that I asserted in this essay.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Like everybody in France under 45 is fluent in English

this isn't even remotely correct lmao

Death to America

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

for real. their accent is so thick they may as well be speaking french

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

OP clearly never met a French person. Even if they can speak English, that doesn't mean they will do it just to conviniance a foreigner.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just cause they know English doesn't mean they want to use it while you're in their country.

Learning a second language is a gateway to living anywhere that's not anglo-burn

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Don't visit France (unless you're a refugee from Burgerland)

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I'm a refugee from Burgerland

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

BTW, do you get that brand of Anglo expat that doesn't learn the language after living their for years and talks to everyone like a kindergartner in English? Or is that just a global south thing?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

we get them here in hungary, which is not global south but not western europe either. i've always assumed anglo immigrants are just like this everywhere.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I actually like going to france? I seem to be the only person. I also like speaking the language. It is a fun one, very melodic.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (11 children)

I do not understand why French is put on the same level as actually useful languages. We've got a continent and a half that speaks Spanish right next door, and >40 million Spanish speakers in the country. There's a billion people who speak mandarin. 400 million who speak Arabic (kinda). Hell there's more indigenous language speakers than French speakers here.

Actually I do understand (it's racism).

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago

You can sing songs written by Sankara. sankara-bass

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

Don't forget that ASL is the third most used language in the United States! No point in focusing exclusively on spoken languages, right?

In any case, I find it questionable to talk about languages in terms of "usefulness" like that, trying to measure "usefulness" based on an objective "number of speakers minus percentage who speak a language I already speak": there are plenty of reasons why a language can be personally useful to somebody, plenty of reasons to want to learn a language aside from how many new people one can talk to; and heck, learning one seemingly useless language can be great for building the skills and knowledge for taking on another language, or for becoming more flexible in using one's own first language.

That being said, you're not wrong to call the pedestal that French is put on compared to other languages a product of racism... Actually, I'd argue that a lot of foreign language education isn't even meant to get you proficient in that language, but rather more for the sake of, like, standardized school tests. Thus the languages that are put on the highest pedestal are just going to be the ones where the infrastructure already exists for getting butts in seats and tests on desks.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hey, viens t'en au Québec! On a de la poutine, de la bière, des manifestations comme en France, du hockey, et de la neige en crisse!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The beer is good. Demos are on another level.

But there are the laws against wearing hijabs and turbans. . . . and all the other racism.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Counterpoints:

1: the instruction manual for my guillotine is in French. How am I supposed to figure out where to put a king's neck and where to place his body if I can't read le manuel d'utilisation??

2: Debout, les damnés de la terre

Debout, les forçats de la faim

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

le fische au chocolat

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Learning a second language is a good thing

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

French is not a language, it's a contagious parasite.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

French women would have sex with us.

That was a warning to stay away from the language.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Like everybody in France under 45 is fluent in English

Bro I can tell you the ability of French people to speak any other language is a complete disaster. I came across people who went to study English at uni (my uni's language dept being considered one of the best btw) and still struggled with fluency

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Tbh, acquiring language fluency via the academia is a myth. Without Immersion, you can never be fluent.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

English vocabulary is 50% French so you're basically speaking 50% French anyways owned

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Learning French gets you many points towards Canadian permanent residency

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Why would I want to be a northern redneck?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (3 children)

and who the fuck wants to talk to an older European.

I-was-saying

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

But only in Russian.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

who the fuck wants to talk to an older European.

Me. I love French daddies.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

get well soon

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

I swear, the French teachers in school were trying to impart the vibe that if we know the French language, French women would have sex with us.

stop already i can only be so unmotivated

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Mais ce simplifie l'etude d'espagnole thonk-cri

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well yeah, but that's not really a bad thing. I think learning a language is good, regardless of whether you actually have a use for it.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Like everybody in France under 45 is fluent in English

Brother, I had to fucking pantomime to ask an 18 year old french guy where the bathroom is at a bar. You have no idea how bad it can be.

On the converse, most french people give English the linguistic respect it deserves which is just speaking french but making sure one word in three is english in the most rotten pronounciation you've ever heard.

w.r.t. former colonies it is a shame because i got to connect with a lot of arabic comrades once i got even a beginner's grasp of the language, which was easy because i speak another romance language. Yes i know how it sounds "boo hoo, why do i have to step out of my western chauvinistic bubble in order to engage with the arabic world"

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

From your lips to god's ear brother let-em-cook

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The British, the French and the Germans are the best examples of Euroid Lib smugness. I hate them all

france-cool anglo-burn germany-cool

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Welp, I learned French before English and it makes it easier. Also, it helps with Spanish and some degree Russian.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Most people who speak French aren't French. The majority of Francophones are in Africa, but there's also millions in the Caribbean and the Levant. I still feel like it's useful for those places

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I speak 14 languages as long as they're all English!

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