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New: Bidenworld explodes at Harris over the book excerpt after years of simmering tensions. "Vice President Harris was simply not good at the job," said one former Biden White House official. "She had basically zero substantive role in any of the administration's key work streams, and instead would just dive bomb in for stilted photo ops that exposed how out of depth she was."

Biden is "not the reason she struggled in office or tanked her 2019 [presidential] campaign," the ex-official said. "Or lost the 2024 campaign, for that matter. The independent variable there is the vice president, not Biden or his aides."

Oh no, mommy and daddy are doing liberal infighting. clown-to-clown-communicationclown-to-clown-conversation

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[-] Wheaties@hexbear.net 103 points 4 months ago

No, Biden very clearly was fundamental to the 2024 loss.

Now, if she had been able to run a full campaign, if he had stepped aside from the very start, then yes we'd probably still be here today with Trump in office. But she was not given the space to fail on her own merits.

[-] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 82 points 4 months ago

Absolutely, the person who got like 3% of the Dem primary vote had horrendous popularity, but Biden also made absolute sure she wouldn't even be allowed to fail on her own merits.

[-] livejamie@lemmy.zip 53 points 4 months ago

I lived in Oakland during that time, and she didn't even win there. I remember seeing graffiti of her as a cop.

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[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 30 points 4 months ago

they gave her the old glass cliff treatment but she would've certainly also failed on her own merits so i'm not sure it counts

[-] into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 4 months ago

she had built up some good momentum for a while. she sabotaged herself leading up to the election. i think she failed on her own merits

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 4 months ago

She or her advisors decided to abandon anything that was popular or made her look good

[-] Wheaties@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

kiss of British Labour party

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[-] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

She had good momentum for a week, tops. Basically until she started speaking. So, arguably her own merits.

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[-] Sithlorddahlia@hexbear.net 30 points 4 months ago

How do you post an image without a spoiler?

[-] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 37 points 4 months ago

Hexbear doesn't let you do that, it's a site policy from an issue years back with people trying to post inappropriate content

[-] Sithlorddahlia@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago

Gotcha, thanks for the info!

I take it that the clown images in op's post are those emoji images that aren't spoilered because they have been pre-approved?

[-] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 30 points 4 months ago

That is one of Hexbear's many emoji, in this case :clown-to-clown-communication: and :clown-to-clown-conversation:

Emoji from our site have been added by the admins so they should be exempt from the spoiler

[-] Rom@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago

If you go into your account settings you can uncheck "Blur images" at the bottom and the site won't automatically blur images for you

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 4 months ago
[-] limer@lemmy.ml 54 points 4 months ago

If that is true what is said about Harris; it makes the Biden administration look even worse for last minute switching her out without a convention to vote for most eligible.

Obviously both Harris and Biden were incompetent, each in their own ways. They were the wrong people at the worst time

[-] livejamie@lemmy.zip 49 points 4 months ago

It was pretty jover when the first Trump assassination attempt happened, fully jover after the last debate they had.

Then Kamala ran on a platform of "nothing will change and we'll have the most powerful army ever" and sent Bill Clinton tell the Arabs in Dearborn to lowkey chill.

[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 45 points 4 months ago

Also basically the same immigration policy as the Republicans with her volcel-kamala speech

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 20 points 4 months ago

Worse, she literally called Trump weak on immigration and said she would be harder on them lmao

[-] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 49 points 4 months ago

a senile old man with dementia and a woman constantly whacked out on quaaludes

wild how they were treated as normal lol

[-] somename@hexbear.net 21 points 4 months ago

If they won, they won, and if they lost, they could left bash and fundraise. It was all upside.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 18 points 4 months ago

the wheels on the bus go round and round! [giggle]

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[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 46 points 4 months ago

Vice President Harris was simply not good at the job

So you're saying that on top of everything else, Biden was terrible at picking a running mate?

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago

no he picked the perfect running mate, someone that nobody would want to run in his place. He just didn't expect to be THAT demented by 2024

[-] godlessworm@hexbear.net 45 points 4 months ago

not to defend kamala at all but that quote about her being out of her depth and having zero substantive role in the administration, in relation to biden who was napping the entire time (and when he wasn't napping he was just struggling to stay awake) and was definitely not the one making decisions or steering the ship is pretty funny.

[-] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Pretty much this and napping is putting it mildly. Biden was making constant gaffes and wouldn't remember the names of world leaders and stuff, and this idiot had the nuke codes... supposedly.

What is even worse is how they had to keep him on all kinds of medications just to stay awake for 15 minutes to give a press conference. To be clear Biden deserves to suffer all kinds of hellish torture you can imagine imo, but what the "Biden team" did to him in the last 2 years(probably longer) is still unironically elderly abuse if it was any other normal person and society.

So on one side dissing on the incompetent grifter second in charge.

On the other side unironicaly treating your fave as a human puppet on a string while he cries in pain half the time while shitting his pants and not remembering the name of the people next to him the other half the time.

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[-] pierre_delecto@hexbear.net 45 points 4 months ago

administration's key work streams

...which were what, feeding pudding to grandpa?

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[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 52 points 4 months ago

They preemptively defederated from us already.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago

preemptively, as a last resort.

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 37 points 4 months ago
[-] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 29 points 4 months ago

"I want to get off Mr. Biden's Wild Ride!"

[-] kleeon@hexbear.net 17 points 4 months ago

It's like Astroworld but way deadlier

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 32 points 4 months ago

"Vice President Harris was simply not good at the job," said one former Biden White House official. "She had basically zero substantive role in any of the administration's key work streams, and instead would just dive bomb in for stilted photo ops that exposed how out of depth she was."

So exactly like Biden was as VP?

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago

That's not true, Biden managed to keep 'negotiating' with McConnell (by giving McConnell whatever he wanted)

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[-] Runaway@lemmy.zip 27 points 4 months ago

If she never had a significant role why the fuck was she made the nominee? That argument doesn't make Biden look better. Idiots. Every single person in that white house.

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[-] footfaults@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 4 months ago

Damn whoever decided to make Kamala VP should be fired. Wonder who that was.

Oh well

[-] diego_maradona@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

all these psychopaths knew and hid biden's dementia for 5 years just to stop bernie winning in 2020 and to stop bernie running in 2024. they didn't care about the general, though would have liked to win obviously. None of these peoples' lives are ruined now that Trump won. They had way more to lose if Bernie won. They knew if they lost they could always just blame it all on Biden, which is exactly what Harris is doing("107 days" waaaaaaaaaa cry more).

If trump's fbi decided to go after everyone involved in the cover-up, I'd support it.

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[-] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 19 points 4 months ago

"Bidenworld"? ok calm down

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[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 17 points 4 months ago

Circular firing squad

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago

wish it would explode in explode instead.

[-] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago

The stakes were simply too high. This wasn't a choice that should have been left to an individual's ego, an individual's ambition."

The liberati is on its first steps towards discovering democratic centralism.

Harris was now using Democratic Party resources to sell a book that could divide the party.

Bourgeoise electoralism is a spoils system

"There were others on the Biden team, though, who really tried to help her thrive as VP. But she and her team did not seize that support and make the most of it. It is all a tragedy."

Anyway, the whole article is literred with vague shit like this and I don't really know what is meant by "support" or "she didn't make the most of it". I'm not sure the staffer knows either.

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[-] VapeNoir@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago

Who are the die-hard Biden partisans so desparate to defend this rising star in the party?

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