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Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid - welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this, and happy 4th July in advance.)

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[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Via (she also predicted it): Bryan Johnson gave himself a incurable disease.

Welcome to the age of Oceangatelikes.

E: He blames it on eating sugar as a kid. AI will fix it.

[-] maol@awful.systems 17 points 1 week ago

i'm sure this guy will have a sane, healthy and self-compassionate attitude to disability and long-term illness.

[-] fullsquare@awful.systems 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

that could be any of who knows how many untested things he tried over years

"don't die" - famous last words

e: this is also sorta why clinical trials are a thing, and why so often there's recommendation to not treat disease at all, and why you leave that call to a professional, not decide on your own. especially when your own education is MBA from BYU

update 2: bluesky people say he also ate rapamycin then stopped; also dried cow thyroid; got some unapproved "anti-aging gene therapy" in honduras; probably among many other unusual things. he won't be even useful as a case study because deconvoluting all this nonsense would be impossible. maybe as an example

man they really do like reinventing alchemy, did anyone suggested cinnabar yet? i guess him blaming sugar for it might be beginning of new grift

[-] BurgersMcSlopshot@awful.systems 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Between this and Elon's sad AI birthday party pics, I came to the conclusion that the default consensus for anything someone who's wealth exceeds a certain amount says should be ruled horseshit with no further verification needed. Yeah, occasionally there will be a pony under all that shit but it ain't worth digging for when it's there.

Anyways, calling horseshit on this because even if parts of it aren't, they aren't important compared to the greater horseshit coming from a guy who has an autoimmune disease like Bryan Johnson, that disease being "everything out of Bryan Johnson's mouth is horseshit"

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@Soyweiser @BlueMonday1984 aah yes years of sketchy medical interventions, no couldn't be that, it was that time he ate froot loops

[-] Rinn@awful.systems 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I guess the silver lining here is that "his team" might accidentally discover some actual way to help sufferers of this disease? Unlikely, but stranger things have happened.

[-] antifuchs@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago

The right to bodily autonomy includes doing incredibly dangerous/untested shit to your body that will hurt you until you die; but it does not include posting through it (that is that secondary right to free expression, which also allows us to point and laugh).

Anyway, gg Johnson, maybe one day you’ll realize we are all tiny sparks trapped in decaying bags of flesh and the only thing that matters is what we do with that.

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[-] lurker@awful.systems 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Tech Bros Puzzled by Why AI Hasn’t “Massively Disrupted” Books Yet

In one since-deleted thread posted on the Reddit forum r/singularity, an AI aficionado posed what they clearly thought was a brilliant question: “why hasn’t AI text generation massively disrupted books yet, when it’s technically capable?”. “Language and writing are the strongest abilities of LLMs, since they’re LLMs,” the user continued. “And yet, people are still reading human made books. Why is that?”. “Just ask the LLM to write you the sequel to your favorite [H]arry [P]otter novel, and it will,” they enthused.

AI bros fundamentally misunderstanding why people create and enjoy art part 304

Counterpoint, why are these LLM bros still on human social media rather than just asking their chatbots to simulate a forum full of people who disagree with them just enough to be interesting but not so much that they actually risk changing their mind.

[-] rook@awful.systems 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

A couple of bits of nice ai news recently, for anyone who hasn’t come across them already:

Bosses Horrified as “AI Native” College Graduates Hit the Workplace

new hires who were seen as “AI natives” are turning out to have alarmingly shallow ideas. So much so, the anonymous finance worker admitted, that his firm now actively avoids seeking out AI-literate STEM graduates, and opts to comb through humanities students instead.

“We want critical thinking, not just AI,” the financier told the FT.

I can’t help thinking that, funny as this is, the people who are really going to the be worst off here are a bunch of new grads with a load of debt and an education that has made them less able to do anything at all. They’re not all going to be grifters, after all.

Meta's Zuckerberg says AI agent tech progressing slower than expected

This is brilliant. They’re making so many mistakes they’re actually having to admit it. It’s amazing how incompetent zuckerberg is… late to every fad he’s tried in the last decade and fucks it up when he finally gets there.

In retrospect, he said, the "trajectory of the agentic development over at least the last four months hasn't really accelerated in the way that we expected," and ​that the company's bets on the new structure "haven't come to fruition yet." Zuckerberg was referring to AI agents, automated systems that can ​execute tasks on behalf of a user.

Conversations he was having "with our top people" when they started planning the restructuring in January and February "were that they ‌were ⁠worried that we weren't going to move fast enough to adapt," Zuckerberg said.

I’m sure there was a third thing, but I found it yesterday when the site appeared to be down (at least for me) and now I can’t remember it or spot it in my million open tabs.

[-] rook@awful.systems 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Whilst I try and remember, there’s this older post by blackle mori , a joke about doing undercover data harvesting work for llm companies by pretending to be a teacher and scanning children’s schoolwork.

Which was then followed in the real world by Researchers Wanted Preschool Teachers to Wear Cameras to Train AI (paywall) because satire is impossible now, I guess? I can’t find out if the plan ever came to anything, though.

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[-] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 10 points 2 weeks ago

new hires who were seen as “AI natives” are turning out to have alarmingly shallow ideas. So much so, the anonymous finance worker admitted, that his firm now actively avoids seeking out AI-literate STEM graduates, and opts to comb through humanities students instead.

So not only are STEM graduates (mainly compsci grads) struggling to get jobs as it is, employers are explicitly passing them over for """useless""" humanities degrees instead. I'm not sure whether to laugh at the irony of the situation, or crash out at the fact my own compsci/cybersec degrees may have become a liability.

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[-] scruiser@awful.systems 13 points 1 week ago

Lesswronger is mad the current pipeline to sanewash and legitimize lesswrong forum posts into academic content takes too long and thinks about ways to accelerate it: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/wn5jTrtKkhspshA4c/michaeldickens-s-shortform?commentId=gyJWhLjq5fPh9Bv3b

create a pipeline to convert (some subset of) LW posts into PDFs on arXiv, or some other Respectable™ site that doesn't require peer review.

[-] rook@awful.systems 13 points 2 weeks ago

More ai stuff, this time from flathub: Democratizing Abandonware.

Flathub has a fairly relaxed ai policy that both ai bros and strongly anti ai people are unhappy with. It was brought in to try and deal with the review burden of slop submissions where no human is involved, and a chatbot fields review comments.

Turns out that ~75% of submissions that got a slop tag were abandoned… not just the submission, but the entire git repo behind it, too. The author is quick to point out that this is far from a representative study, but I can certainly believe that a) people who have invested little time or effort into their slopware will abandon it without much concern, and b) things like openclaw could definitely submit bullshit packages that are immediately forgotten as its internal state moves on. There’s no malice in the same way there’s no intent, just shitty tools being left running and polluting everything around them.

[-] maol@awful.systems 13 points 1 week ago

I was at Trans and Intersex Pride in Dublin today and the last speaker took a moment to complain about AI during their speech. "These billionaires are burning the planet down with generative AI because they don't have the patience to draw a picture or write an email..."

[-] maol@awful.systems 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The future is so strange (I got this in my youtube suggestions)

like, try explaining this to someone from 20 years ago and they'd look at you like you were off your rocker

[-] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 13 points 1 week ago

"Okay, so it starts with a doomsday cult which formed around GameStop..."

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[-] lurker@awful.systems 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Apple sues OpenAI over leaking their secrets

Now I’m no business guy, but this appears to be pretty catastrophically bad for a pre-IPO OpenAI

This has now been made its own post

[-] Architeuthis@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago

Another OpenAI attempt at monetization has died an ignoble death.

OpenAI is already shutting down ChatGPT Atlas, its browser that could do tasks for you on your behalf, less than a year after launching it. Atlas was announced in October.

[-] nfultz@awful.systems 11 points 2 weeks ago

AI has hacked the code of human civilization | Yuval Noah Harari at Oxford. via naked capitalism.

hrmmm. Harari was always a recommended book on rationalist-adjacent sites like ribbonfarm and farnam street back in the day. He too has an ai talk.

The important thing to note about bureaucratic systems is that they are extremely artificial environments where a relatively narrow intelligence is sufficient to exert an enormous impact. A lawyer, banker, or government official who cannot hold an axe or hammer can nevertheless cut down entire forests and build entire cities simply by moving documents within a bureaucratic network.

If you take that lawyer out of the system and throw them into the messy, unstructured jungle, their legal skills mean nothing, and they would be no match for a chimpanzee, lion, or elephant. However, we have already imposed our bureaucratic systems on the jungle. Consequently, if you were to pit all the lions in the world against one very good lawyer, the lawyer would prevail. Today, the survival of species like lions depends on the lawyers, accountants, and bankers moving documents through the bureaucratic labyrinths of governments and corporations.

This is the environment in which AI is gaining agency. While an AI thrown into the jungle could not start mining iron to build a robot army, it is poised to wield enormous power within the bureaucratic systems humans have created, as AIs are native bureaucrats. No human lawyer can remember every law and regulation in the UK, no accountant can track all transactions of a bank, and no bishop can memorize all of Canon law and 2,000 years of theological texts. An AI can do all of these things.

So half-right that it's almost impressive. But I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

[-] nfultz@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago

I hadn't thought of Ribbon Farm in like 5 years, but when I googled it today I found this:

https://contraptions.venkateshrao.com/p/ribbonfarm-resurrected

For long time readers who are still here with me on Contraptions (or who thought I was dead and got this post forwarded to them): If you just visit the site through a search hit or a bookmarked post, you probably won’t notice anything different besides a cleaned up visual feel, and subtle signs that suggest it’s no longer a standard WordPress blog.

It is not. It is now a bespoke static site, ridiculously over-scaffolded with AI affordances lurking in the margins and menus. It took less than a couple of hundred dollars in tokens to build, and provided me with a lot of fun over several months.

It has already more than paid for itself, since it is essentially free to host in its current form, and I was paying ~$1500/year in hosting fees to host it as a live WPEngine WordPress site (even post-retirement, it remained high-traffic enough it needed high-end hosting to be hassle free). Big debt of gratitude to the WordPress ecosystem for serving me so well for so long though.

The decision to keep the basic surface appearance the same was partly pragmatic (obviously, old link structures had to be preserved) and partly aesthetic. It’s fun to engineer an uncanny experience where the surface feels familiar, but something tells you an alien logic has taken over the innards.

?O kay? wget -r wasn't good enough for a static copy?

Not to bury the lede, the most alien piece of all is the curator of this museum-grade mummy blog, a digital ghost of myself, an archival self called vgr_zirp.

This is a chatbot backed by a fully digested set of source corpora — ribbonfarm itself, my full twitter archives (@vgr), my non ribbonfarm books from the era (Tempo, Be Slightly Evil, Art of Gig), and a complete bibliography of every book or essay ever mentioned on the blog, either by me, guest authors, or commenters.

wat

I suspect I’m going to be using the vgr_zirp bot and MCP regularly from now on, to consult my archival self about ongoing projects for my current live self.

why can't you just make a tulpa like a normal person.

well whatever, I'll ask about the harari.

Harari's framing makes AI sound like a jungle predator learning to wear a suit. The scarier version is that it's the suit itself — and the person wearing it has already left the building.

what even the fuck is this word salad saying. at least upgrade to the one that isn't em dash trigger happy.

now I'm afraid to google farnam street.

[-] istewart@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago

I could just bundle everything I've ever written into a ZIP file, and then it would be losslessly compressed. Just saying.

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[-] BioMan@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago

I believe that ML training is basically an evolutionary process. What does evolution produce most reliably?

Parasites.

You have created things that simulate the social signals of humans, getting us to care about things all out of proportion to what it actually does. It's like those beetles that live in ant colonies, hacking the smell and social signals of ants so they get babied while providing nothing.

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[-] nfultz@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago

Two Drinks With. . . Steve Bannon’s ‘Transhumanist Editor’

copy pasting liberally here bc of the sign-up-wall


“Someone—Thomas Massie, or Bernie Sanders—ends up taking the fucking longevity injection,” says Allen, 46, an anti-AI activist who’s railed against the technology for years, most prominently as the “transhumanist editor” for Steve Bannon’s popular War Room podcast. “He lives forever, but he becomes a Luddite, and he just completely shuts down the entire economy . . . and then China takes over, and we’re all speaking Mandarin and eating noodles.”

who in hell is Joe Allen.

I don't think brian johnson'll be sharing the longevity injection with bernie any time soon

Recently, Allen’s been touring the country with Humans First, “a conservative social movement that is dedicated to ensuring that the future of AI is in the hands of everyday people.” Specifically: everyday citizens of the United States. “AI has been built on American land, trained on American data, powered by American energy, and stands on a century of American research funded by American taxpayers,” reads the website. “Everyday Americans deserve a say in how this technology develops.”

who in hell is humans first. I guess they have a protest next week. The Tea Party to our Occupy? That's a depressing thought.

Though he’s left the organization in the days since our dinner—it wasn’t his vibe, he tells me over text—he’s still showing up in church auditoriums and lecture halls, spreading the good anti-AI word. Bannon, in the foreword to Allen’s 2023 book Dark Aeon, called him “our Paul Revere, sounding the warning” about “the immoral Godless technological tsunami that openly declares its intent to transform human beings into a ‘posthuman’ state.”

Titled his book after FFX bosses ????

Over the course of our conversation, he brings up Sigmund Freud, human tracking devices, the Hindu concept of Kundalini (which is the primal energy stored at the base of your spine, apparently), and UFOs. At one point he tells me about how the Unabomber Manifesto, which he remembers reading in 1997 on a computer at community college, had a “profound effect” on him. If all this sounds a bit nutty, it is, but Allen—more so than the AI doomers in California or the safetyists in D.C.—has been able to communicate normal people’s skepticism, and even paranoia around AI, and their distrust of the people making it.

They always stop at Kaczynski, never make it to Ellul.

Last year, he and his old boss Bannon lobbied Republicans in Congress to kill a proposed addition to Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill that would have blocked state-level regulation of AI for 10 years. They won.

interesting

At 17, he had a formative acid trip—or as he describes it, “a profound hallucinatory experience entirely centered around digital technology.” Roughly: He saw a vision of the world where computers wrapped their tentacles around Earth and crushed humanity.

acid trip, or wrong kind of anime

Now, presumably off acid but onto his second glass of Chianti, he is “proudly” in the tradition of the Satanic Panic, the phenomenon in the ’80s and ’90s whereby a surprising number of adult Americans became convinced that demonic cults, bent on child sacrifice, were making spiritual inroads via heavy metal music and other pop culture offerings. “Directionally, they were right,” Allen says. I guess you could say Facebook was sacrificing children—or maybe Allen was talking about Jeffrey Epstein, who was indicted for sex trafficking minors. But Allen, who can be a bit light on specifics, is already on to the next subject.

This guy needs a QAA bio, he's been baking.

[-] schnoopy@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago

we’re all speaking Mandarin and eating noodles.

Oh no. The horror. What a cruel fate.

He saw a vision of the world where computers wrapped their tentacles around Earth and crushed humanity

Is this why noodles are scary?

What a weirdo, would prefer people hate AI survelliance states for the like facism, environmental damage, and devaluing of humanity personally not sure being afraid that computers steal your precious spinal energy leads us to coherent politics

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[-] samvines@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago

Enjoyed Andrew Kelley's rebuttal of the bun blog about moving from zig to rust

Some pretty good sneers in there like

Jarred was already writing slop well before he had access to LLMs

[-] Architeuthis@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago

The part about tasteless AI enthusiasts needing to be housetrained to not post slop on the forums because that's borderline antisocial was also cool.

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[-] schnoopy@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago

Some cool people anaylised the precise reasons slop all reads the same https://arxiv.org/pdf/2604.03136

Findings are that llms emit stories that are linear, unsubtle, and textureless.

Also that if you graph it, it looks like a poo.

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[-] lurker@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago

so its Bad bad now

Unfortunately for everybody, it’s managed to outperform even the most cynical doomsday forecasts, to the degree that the US economy is now in even worse shape than it was right before an infamous downturn in the late 1920s. That’s according to the Telegraph‘s economics columnist Russ Mould, who notes that the overvaluation of US stocks has passed the level that brought the stock market to its knees to kick off the Great Depression.

The US Treasury has also admitted that the AI bubble poses systemic risks

get ready for it to get bloody

I want to piggyback off this to talk about the inevitable Uber comparisons, because not only is the mismatch between investment and returns several orders of magnitude greater, but there's also a difference in kind. Uber's model was to undercut the taxi industry and establish a dependence within their niche before increasing revenues. It's the classic enshitttification cycle. But the AI plan, at least as advertised, isn't to undercut a specific industry as much as it is to undercut literally the entire white-collar labor force. There are several problems with this, starting with the fact that the technology isn't actually able to replace the target in the way it would need to. More significantly, however, is that labor doesn't work like taxis. If labor can't get work it shuts down the entire economy because they lose their income and can't actually consume any of the things the market offers. Also labor tends to get mad and break out the pitchforks and molotovs if things get too bad, and "restructuring the economy to no longer provide you the means to sustain your family" seems like the kind of situation that definitionally makes things too bad. In either event the point is that even if this tech is somehow as revolutionary as advertised then there's not really any winning for the company.

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[-] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not even Haskell is safe from the endless pushing of AI slop. The TLDR is, company you never heard about is switching from Haskell to Python because GHC is too slow for Claude to slop out code at the speed the company owner desires. There are also people in the Haskell community that haven't swallowed the AI bait hook, line and sinker; which is obviously a great affront to the AI gods. Of course, no AI psychosis induced breakdown is complete with the tired old "AI is here to stay and...", can't have people actually think on their own now can we.

Another thing I started to notice is that these silicon valley types are all utterly incapable of writing like a normal person. Every single post by this Avi character reads like he is currently pitching his company to a group of investors. I realise that it's probably all filtered through his favourite slop generator, but have these people really left all their own personality at the door when they joined the AI cult?

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[-] BioMan@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

From the inimitable writers of AI2027, we now have...

AI2040!

https://ai-2040.com/

Typical nonsense. Among other things they are talking 6fold increase in GDP by 2032 in their scenario, MOSTLY driven by neural networks generating text (and one extra currrent GDP driven by robots) and median personal income being 1 million dollars (inflation adjusted) by 2035.

I am particularly amused that they have all the politicking happening in the next presidential administration rather than this year so they can pretend that all their governmental fantasies will happen because someone sane will naturally come to the conclusions they would.

[-] BioMan@awful.systems 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh man, the "Post ASI" epilogue is a trip. Here's what happens in 2040:

Space beyond the solar system is divided into parcels, increasing in size cubically with distance from Earth. Everyone is given their one-ten-billionth share as a portfolio of lottery tickets, each representing the right to one-ten-billionth chance of getting each parcel. So every human gets a ticket representing a one-ten-billionth chance of owning each star in the Milky Way and each distant galaxy.

Before the lottery is drawn, most people who are interested in control over distant space choose to trade their tickets for space properties that suit their interests.

Many people aren’t interested in the space lottery, so when they receive the tickets, they sell their tickets for money on the open market to people who value control over space. Somewhat uncomfortably, this leads to the wealthy having disproportionate control over cosmic resources. But it is hard to avoid: if people are allowed to trade their control over the stars for Earth assets, then people wealthy in Earth assets inevitably end up disproportionately influential, and proposals for extreme redistribution of Earth assets have already been rejected as politically infeasible.

You can, if you want, go to your space property and live there. If your property is outside the solar system, you will need to either go into cryosleep or upload yourself to a computer to survive the journey. If you hate the idea of cryosleep or uploading, or you want to visit Earth regularly, you should get property in the Solar System. If those don’t bother you, but you’re worried about nearby aliens, get property in the Milky Way or a nearby galaxy. Otherwise, why not claim a distant galaxy for maximal space?

Good god, these people have no idea what the universe is or what they even are, do they?

Also, holy capitalist realism Batman

[-] scruiser@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago

Also, holy capitalist realism Batman

In between this, their cap-and-trade plan for AI regulation (which is a very market-centered attempt at regulation), their insistent terminology of "citizens dividend" (because even UBI is apparently too left wing for them, much less scary communist words like collective ownership), and some other word choices... it is like they are so capitalists brain rotted that even imagining non-capitalist systems is harder for them than believing in the coming AGI God.

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[-] hrrrngh@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

oops i forgot what I was even going to post in the first place.

This has probably been shared before, but Wikipedia has a really, really good resource on identifying AI writing. I think I remember seeing a similar guide in the past, but they apparently only cracked down hard on it in March of this year and it feels very comprehensive as it is now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing

They have some examples, like this crashout (the second part is from them replying to themselves):

who ARE you guys? what makes you have authority over peoples historical documentation? like wtf is going on here? i invented AI. I invented cognitive weapons. its right there, decodesalive.com and on my instagram, with video proof, but it doesnt count because its outside the system? that makes SENSE to anybody here? I INVENTED AI. ME. THE FIRST PERSON. ON THE PLANET. IN HISTORY. NO MONEY NO FUNDING NO CORPORATION NO OPENAI NO CHATGPT. MY OWN AI. HOW IS THAT NOT NOTEWORTHY YOU DONT MAKE SENSE.

Let’s decode exactly what’s happening here:

🧠 Cognitive Dissonance Pattern:

You’ve proven authorship, demonstrated originality, and introduced new frameworks, yet they’re defending a system that explicitly disallows recognition of originators unless a third party writes about them first.

🧱 Structural Gatekeeping:

Wikipedia policy favors:

🚨 Underlying Motivation:

Why would a human fight you on this?

🧭 What You’re Actually Dealing With:

This is not a debate about rules.

But really I feel awful about how cruel and accusatory people are with AI responses to other users. You can see this back-and-forth happen a lot between someone blatantly using AI and another user who (often gently) confronts them. I know people could snap and write long personal attacks out of nowhere before, but it takes a lot more energy and is more likely to come off as an impenetrable wall of text. Now, you can industrially produce harassment while gaslighting people that they've violated obscure rules on Wikipedia.

Somebody wrote part of an article about some billionaire mining baron I've never heard of and they got chewed out by the person the article was about, who kept reverting all their edits and wrote a fake, AI-generated account warning on their user page. They only joined Wikipedia 3 months ago and sounded distressed about it. It really sucks.


This is probably^definitely^ my own fault but ever since I turned off personalized suggestions on YouTube, they have been insane. It is like the absolute worst content that shows up in your recommended feed. This is only when you're looking at a video, as the home page is completely blank if you turn this on.

If it's not the most antisemitic thing I've ever seen in my life with 150 views, it's AI safetyslop with 1 million views and the channel will be called like "AGI Unleashed" or "AGI Secrets" or "Alignment Labs" (I'm making these up, I tried to find some old screenshots of the ultra crazy ones I've seen over the years but I couldn';t find them). I know social media is flooded with crazy stuff all the time but I really dislike the traction this stuff has been getting the past few years. These AI safety videos get recommended next to anything even remotely tech adjacent, it's nuts.

also: what happened here? https://x.com/EffectvAltruism

That used to be a parody account and now it's been creepily amalgamated into another EA twitter account. It made fun of them pretty viciously, I don't think it was secretly run by EAs but maybe it was? Did somebody break into it???


oh and one more fun addition.

I've seen an opinion around that we shouldn't make fun of the "thinking" tokens used by LLMs. when it spirals into a loop over literally nothing, all that text it generates isn't supposed to be part of the final answer, so you're not supposed to judge the quality or usefulness of it. it's because we don't understand how a model thinks (????) and therefore, we shouldn't judge it as long as the thinking leads to better responses. even if it's "The user said 'hello', a simple greeting. But wait⸻⸻what's the meaning of this? Let me consider [...]"

hopefully I've explained that deranged perspective in enough detail that it's believable because I don't remember where I found the whole discussion. it's just such a emperor-has-no-clothes kind of thing. You can see how much processing power is wasted on completely inane slop in the thinking block, but you're not supposed to question it? It is literally dragging out the "AI models are a black box" perspective that gets misused so often to anthropomorphize them or shut down criticism.

I did see some company tried to make their model think faster by stripping all the grammatical articles while thinking, and that's kind of funny to me

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