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Somebody tracked down things related to the 'AI bioweapons' stuff and a lot of them are financed by EA/related orgs apparantly. There is a preprint: https://ironholds.org/resources/papers/aixbio_one.pdf

"We tracked the space financially, intellectually, and individually. Financially, 70% of the literature that disclosed funding was directly supported by EA orgs; 71% of the literature that didn’t disclose funding featured authors from funded orgs. We're talking hundreds of millions of dollars."

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  • [–] 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

    He was particularly impressed at how it helped him cancel forgotten subscriptions.

    Not the only person I saw talking about how great that is. Which is saying more about the ai enthousiasts than the llm tbh. Esp with the addition that the phonecalls are done by a real person. And the addition that you need to upload your life to facebook for this to work. A privacy nightmare.

    Wonder how long we have till it takes out a lone in somebodies name to spend on facebook advertising tokens.

    E: Omg, it looks like it gave people root who were pretending to be another Muse instance. Imagine jokingly trying a 'how do you do my fellow AI' and then it works.

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    Yeah, and including hacker/scriptkiddie forums in the training data sort of made this behaviour inevitable, esp if this also includes lists of exploits. But they didnt even exclude hate and csam from the training. So all quite irresponsible.

    And im not a huge fan of the focus on 'they are doing sex weird' shit either. As this will just be used by some as a source of "drama" content, go after people with alternative lifestyles. En when called out a subset of people will go motte/bailey into 'no this is fine because I actually worry about the power dynamics' before going back to talking about the spreadsheet gangbang.

    (Dont take me as saying here the power dynamics are not a problem here, as we have sneered at that in the past).

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  • [–] 15 points 1 day ago (11 children)

    Not really a coherent post, just a thought I had, I'm ignoring both 'This is a pr move' and the conspiracy theory (which I just made up), that this hacking is all a 4d chess move by LW people to let the AI break out and get regulated before it can get really dangerous.

    Now that that is out of the way, but with more stories coming out of both LW/EA people being high in the orgs of the AI companies and all the AI companies hacking other companies because nobody actually paid attention to what the AI models were doing one thing is clear. What a colossal waste of time LW was. All that talk about the sequences teaching people rationality, etc etc to stop the AI god from killing us all, and the first thing that happens when some AI model is created by people steeped in LW ideology and they leave the boxes open and don't even check in on the AI. The Foom isn't happening (remember AI progress is supposed to speed up according to the science fiction, not get a bit more refined, and get better in a few specific tasks (which is why I think slowdown started when with a lot of fanfare they released a new chatgpt model who could now do voicechat, aka they slapped a voicechat module on it) And now even Trump is starting to be anti EA, which is not going to be great for the longevity of it, considering how eager the rich are to bend the knee (guess high IQ lab babies created by Musk will not save yall). And while this is going on the left/liberals are starting to think of them as a sex cult.

    Doubt many organizations have failed as badly at their goals as LW/EA has recently.

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  • submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by to c/sneerclub@awful.systems
     

    As we don't have a top level post about this already (nor on reddit) I thought why not make one. Archive.is

    Extremely likely the guy was a lesswronger, or at least radicalized by that sort of thinking.

    But not much else seems to be known as far as I can tell. Corbin also posted about the HN reactions in the stubsack.

    And remember, no fed posting.

    Edit: looks like his house also got shot. Archive (after the speculation in this thread, makes you wonder if this was a follow up false flag, as the bottle didn't break last time).

     

    Via reddits sneerclub. Thanks u/aiworldism.

    I have called LW a cult incubator for a while now, and while the term has not catched on, nice to see more reporting on the problem that lw makes you more likely to join a cult.

    https://www.aipanic.news/p/the-rationality-trap the original link for the people who dont like archive.is used the archive because I dont like substack and want to discourage its use.

    submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by to c/sneerclub@awful.systems
     

    As found by @gerikson here, more from the anti anti TESCREAL crowd. How the antis are actually R9PRESENTATIONALism. Ottokar expanded on their idea in a blog post.

    Original link.

    I have not read the bigger blog post yet btw, just assumed it would be sneerable and posted it here for everyone's amusement. Learn about your own true motives today. (This could be a troll of course, boy does he drop a lot of names and thinks that is enough to link things).

    E: alternative title: Ideological Turing Test, a critical failure

     

    Original title 'What we talk about when we talk about risk'. article explains medical risk and why the polygenic embryo selection people think about it the wrong way. Includes a mention of one of our Scotts (you know the one). Non archived link: https://theinfinitesimal.substack.com/p/what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about

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    Begrudgingly Yeast (@begrudginglyyeast.bsky.social) on bsky informed me that I should read this short story called 'Death and the Gorgon' by Greg Egan as he has a good handle on the subjects/subjects we talk about. We have talked about Greg before on Reddit.

    I was glad I did, so going to suggest that more people he do it. The only complaint you can have is that it gives no real 'steelman' airtime to the subjects/subjects it is being negative about. But well, he doesn't have to, he isn't the guardian. Anyway, not going to spoil it, best to just give it a read.

    And if you are wondering, did the lesswrongers also read it? Of course: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/hx5EkHFH5hGzngZDs/comment-on-death-and-the-gorgon (Warning, spoilers for the story)

    (Note im not sure this pdf was intended to be public, I did find it on google, but might not be meant to be accessible this way).

    submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by to c/sneerclub@awful.systems
     

    The interview itself

    Got the interview via Dr. Émile P. Torres on twitter

    Somebody else sneered: 'Makings of some fantastic sitcom skits here.

    "No, I can't wash the skidmarks out of my knickers, love. I'm too busy getting some incredibly high EV worrying done about the Basilisk. Can't you wash them?"

    https://mathbabe.org/2024/03/16/an-interview-with-someone-who-left-effective-altruism/

     

    Some light sneerclub content in these dark times.

    Eliezer complements Musk on the creation of community notes. (A project which predates the takeover of twitter by a couple of years (see the join date: https://twitter.com/CommunityNotes )).

    In reaction Musk admits he never read HPMOR and he suggests a watered down Turing test involving HPMOR.

    Eliezer invents HPMOR wireheads in reaction to this.

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