[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 11 hours ago

I enjoyed a different type of takedown than our more usual method of pointing out the weird nested asumptions.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

it has become painfully clear that there is some sort of intrinsic value to the truth of the art, of the experience that creates it, to the backstory that connects it to reality.

This has been a thing for a while now already, even before gen AI in gaming that there often was, for a lot of people a preference to playing with others, as in various games any npc AI, or randomly generated events (like in skyrims dynamic quests) were seen as less interesting than real human interactions/created things.

Think this is a typo btw:

Hidu pantheon

The argument goes that we're seeing an exponential increase in the rate of technological development.

Also interesting to note that the evidence so far is at max N=1.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 21 hours ago

This is exactly what a white MtG main would say.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

The top comments under the yt vid:

"If people like 47fu build it, everybody dies."

And

When I saw Eliezer's attire in the thumbnail, I was a bit disappointed. However, after listening to the first five minutes, I'm wondering how the hell he knew to dress so appropriately. Now I'm convinced he is a genius.

Unrelated to that, but is it just me or does Liron Shapira look weird? Did he use some sort of genAI overlay on his own looks, or some weird postprocessing something? His older vids don't give me that vibe. The bowtie looks oddly floaty. (But can be that they always do that and I'm just not around enough people who wear that).

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 1 points 1 day ago

Nah I was joking about the three paths to profitability, either become kings of god, run a normal business or give somebody else the bags.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 2 days ago

Sure, but they got to IPO for that.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Looks to me he took the debate the correct amount of serious.

Edit: the link to the debate nobody seems to link: https://youtube.com/watch?v=FIg4zQKBpAs 15k views in 3 days

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 25 points 2 days ago

Cant IPO, cant AGI, cant ROI, poor openAI just the worst luck.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 3 days ago

Fun how articles like these make goblins relevant for talking about AI again. Can't stop the goblin! Goblin collapse!

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That would be a recent development them, as for a lawsuit couple years ago he had to reveal all his alts, which included the weird 'his baby son who was horny for various women (or at least grimes)' account.

(Not 100% sure if it was a lawsuit or some other reveal, like him showing a screenshot with too much info in it or something).

E: still dont get why people think this means musk is behind mayes account. This prob shows something even stranger, Maye is not Musks real mother. Musk is adopted! And Maye bought a child from a struggeling worker.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 4 days ago

I would still be ashamed

Well pmarca is an self admitted p-zombie.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 13 points 4 days ago

Holy shit less wrong terrorists cut his fiber? Didnt know they would go that far. ;)

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submitted 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) by Soyweiser@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

As we don't have a top level post about this already (nor on reddit) I thought why not make one. Archive.is

Extremely likely the guy was a lesswronger, or at least radicalized by that sort of thinking.

But not much else seems to be known as far as I can tell. Corbin also posted about the HN reactions in the stubsack.

And remember, no fed posting.

Edit: looks like his house also got shot. Archive (after the speculation in this thread, makes you wonder if this was a follow up false flag, as the bottle didn't break last time).

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Via reddits sneerclub. Thanks u/aiworldism.

I have called LW a cult incubator for a while now, and while the term has not catched on, nice to see more reporting on the problem that lw makes you more likely to join a cult.

https://www.aipanic.news/p/the-rationality-trap the original link for the people who dont like archive.is used the archive because I dont like substack and want to discourage its use.

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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by Soyweiser@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

As found by @gerikson here, more from the anti anti TESCREAL crowd. How the antis are actually R9PRESENTATIONALism. Ottokar expanded on their idea in a blog post.

Original link.

I have not read the bigger blog post yet btw, just assumed it would be sneerable and posted it here for everyone's amusement. Learn about your own true motives today. (This could be a troll of course, boy does he drop a lot of names and thinks that is enough to link things).

E: alternative title: Ideological Turing Test, a critical failure

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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by Soyweiser@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

Original title 'What we talk about when we talk about risk'. article explains medical risk and why the polygenic embryo selection people think about it the wrong way. Includes a mention of one of our Scotts (you know the one). Non archived link: https://theinfinitesimal.substack.com/p/what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Soyweiser@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

Begrudgingly Yeast (@begrudginglyyeast.bsky.social) on bsky informed me that I should read this short story called 'Death and the Gorgon' by Greg Egan as he has a good handle on the subjects/subjects we talk about. We have talked about Greg before on Reddit.

I was glad I did, so going to suggest that more people he do it. The only complaint you can have is that it gives no real 'steelman' airtime to the subjects/subjects it is being negative about. But well, he doesn't have to, he isn't the guardian. Anyway, not going to spoil it, best to just give it a read.

And if you are wondering, did the lesswrongers also read it? Of course: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/hx5EkHFH5hGzngZDs/comment-on-death-and-the-gorgon (Warning, spoilers for the story)

(Note im not sure this pdf was intended to be public, I did find it on google, but might not be meant to be accessible this way).

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Soyweiser@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

The interview itself

Got the interview via Dr. Émile P. Torres on twitter

Somebody else sneered: 'Makings of some fantastic sitcom skits here.

"No, I can't wash the skidmarks out of my knickers, love. I'm too busy getting some incredibly high EV worrying done about the Basilisk. Can't you wash them?"

https://mathbabe.org/2024/03/16/an-interview-with-someone-who-left-effective-altruism/

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Some light sneerclub content in these dark times.

Eliezer complements Musk on the creation of community notes. (A project which predates the takeover of twitter by a couple of years (see the join date: https://twitter.com/CommunityNotes )).

In reaction Musk admits he never read HPMOR and he suggests a watered down Turing test involving HPMOR.

Eliezer invents HPMOR wireheads in reaction to this.

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