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This is nationwide, apparently. This is just the infographic that the Nottingham council put out

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wait so the state has made it illegal to take your child out of school but also it's a fine so rich parents who can afford week long vacations will just add this in as an expense

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 4 months ago (4 children)

https://www.euronews.com/travel/2024/08/05/travelling-during-school-time-here-are-the-fines-parents-could-face-across-europe

German police have been known to actively check airports for families taking unauthorised school-time holidays, communicating with schools to assess whether absence has been cleared.

germans cannot help but be cops about absolutely everything

(Netherlands) School absenteeism can be fined at €100 euros per day up to a maximum of €600 euros per family for one week and €900 for two weeks.

One day is a bit steep but at least they give you a discount if you do the whole two weeks in Phuket trip

(UK) Milder consequences of taking your child on holiday during school time without the school’s permission include being issued a parenting order by the court. This means you have to go to parenting classes. You may also be issued with an education supervision order or a school attendance order.

"Your attempt at fun has been noted. Please proceed to parental reeducation camp

eu-cool

At least norway and sweden seem somewhat chill

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago

Oh man let me tell you a story, when i was a kid i grew up and went to school in Turkey. But it was still advantageous to provide a secondary address in germany because of some legal stuff, which my parents did.

Noting that us kids weren't registered in any school, they sent fucking CPS to this secondary address with police in tow scaring the bejeesus out of the friend who was living at that address and forwarding letters sent there.

I dont know what exactly they were planning, like take us to a home or just scare those "religious nuts" straight. But we were safe and sound in Turkey lmao. Sent them a mail reminding them what a primary and a secondary address is, dumbass bureaucrats.

Anyway we had to go to german school during summerbreak that year because we had booked our plane tickets already and it was still school there. Which didn't suck, but I rather wouldn't have.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 4 months ago

Do yiu hov a loicense for that vacation luv? maw

[–] [email protected] 61 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The corporate art template somehow makes this even more fucked up. corporate-art

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago (1 children)

the widely differing art styles for every kid in this picture makes me think it's just different illustrations downloaded from some stock site without paying the artist. which we've all done for some project or other sure but it's pretty gross when a government council does it in for an ad threatening to steal money from parents

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago

Being double cheap by being Memphis visual gruel and being lifted from stock images sounds like a society in good shape. this-is-fine

[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 months ago

get into the worker factory prole or we'll make you homeless

[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Truancy penalties have sadly been a thing in the UK for a fair few years now. It's a really idiotic system. Some schools refuse to implement it in practice, but it is effectively mandatory (and has achieved nothing).

As someone who lived a povertous upbringing and had a ~20% absence rate in school, this would've absolutely destroyed me and my family if it had been in effect then.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 months ago (1 children)

the brits are the original poor haters so this tracks

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

Brits innovated a lot of methods to fuck the poor.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 months ago (3 children)

People gotta start making politicians afraid to do shit like this

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago (2 children)

personally i think constantly about how to instill useful fear in the political class that isn't just something that'll get me sent to a blacksite or executed

got no answers yet, i'm usually good at tests so i'll get back to you

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The prime minister of Denmark got lightly pushed by a drunk polish man recently, and she's still not over it. Had all the politicians here come out and condemn "the violent attack". They seemed real freaked out. So uhhh, if you ever just get the chance to shoulder-check them, that should be more than enough

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What happened to the drunk man though?

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Some say he's still drunk and Polish to this day

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's a pretty cruel punishment.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

We had a similar incident here with the ex-Treasurer. Being forced to actually interact with a member of the working class is enough to give them the vapours.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago

git gud and don't get caught

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago (1 children)

For anyone curious, here's NPR doing their best to run cover for "The Story Behind Kamala Harris' Truancy Program"

Passed in 2011, the law allowed district attorneys to charge parents with a misdemeanor if their children missed 10 percent of the school year without a valid reason.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Proud high school truant checking in to say that this is not the way schools should work. There are many valid paths to an education. Schools are often impediments to education. I have no disrespect for anyone with more important shit to do. Sometimes having a life requires some attention, and can have transformative educational impact.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Did they make her Prime Minister too?!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

No, I am pretty sure the Prime Minister is Juan Guaidó.

guaido

[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 months ago

Struggling? How about a little more struggle?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago (2 children)

CW for mental health, suicideI was extremely anxious and depressed in school. I tried to kill myself rather than go to school many times. I skipped school a lot because I saw it as the only way to save my life.

Nice to know that if I lived in the UK and was in school a few years later, the government would have just robbed my parents of all their money. I'm sure coercing a depressed teenager into a place that makes them suicidal by threatening their parents financial stability couldn't go wrong

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

self harmI remember one time in elementary school I was sitting at the foot of my bed hitting my ankle with a baseball hoping I would get injured so I wouldn't have to go to school. I wasn't even bullied or anything, I just really, really didn't want to go. Never brought it up, nobody ever saw. Still had to go to school.

I've also started mentioning it now that I'm an adult. Never got a reaction more than "huh, interesting" though I feel like that was a super fucked up moment.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

I'd sleep with windows open and no blanket just so I could get sick and stay home. On the plus side I am now very hearthy!

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 months ago

Jesus fuck it's real

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago (2 children)

For once I'm glad to live in the Wild West where they don't give a shit whether or not our kids go to school.

(Of course, that's because they want us to homeschool or send them to private schools.)

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I actually wouldn't be surprised if they tried something like this in the US. Absenteeism has been pretty bad since COVID and I'm sure they'd love something this punitive to the poor to try and "solve" the problem

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Eh, half of the US government’s goal for decades has been to fully dismantle the public education system so I don’t think they really care about encouraging attendance. They want it to be low.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But have you considered that they also hate the poor

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

Fair point. I actually really wouldn’t be surprised to see that in places like California and New York.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Isn't there somebody you forgot to ask? volcel-kamala

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Way to solve the birth rate crisis.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago

Something something contradiction between pursuit of profit and reproduction of society.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago

This is what happens when you don't brutally overthrow feudalism

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is this a precursor to bringing back the horrific boarding school system where teachers were allowed to mercilessly beat students whenever they felt like it? Because it sounds like TERF island is so obsessed with glorifying their past that they'll even start doing shit like that again.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

lol I would've impoverished my parents with my fucking school skipping, great way to build family bonds

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

This absolutely boggles my American brain that you'd have to ask permission to take your kid out of school. When I was a child my parents would call the school and let them know when I would be away for vacation as a courtesy to the administration, telling not asking.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In America there’s a concerted effort to destroy public education. That means there are insane policies like this one: Some public schools lose a bit of funding each time a student doesn’t show up. Doesn’t matter that the school’s expenses stayed the same. It’s not like they could tell a teacher to go home 15 minutes early and reduce their pay accordingly, which would be awful for the teachers anyway. So schools are extremely motivated to keep kids in the school.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

Last year I took my son out for a week at end of term with no fine and no issue, as they're just fannying about on the last week. Next year he'll have an unexpected illness.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh don't worry, unless mpox, avian flu, and COVID do the Mr. Burns Three Stooges thing, there will be plenty doomjak

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