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Britain can't stop climate change... (thelemmy.club)

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[-] Hexamerous@hexbear.net 56 points 4 days ago

I call this "soft" climate change denialism because a lot of liberals either resort to this kind of fatalism or they believe that some green "wounderwaffen" or "wounder-tech" like carbon capture, lab grown meat, AI or whatever is going to save us all deus ex machina style last minute by a huge push from all investors/the invisible hand and "one of the good" billionaires.

In practice this is no different from "hard" climate change denilasim.

[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 38 points 4 days ago

It’s definitely on that 5 point scale of denialism:

It’s not happening
It’s happening but it’s natural/we don’t now why
It’s happening but it’s good actually
It’s happening and there’s nothing we can do to fix it
It’s happening and it’s our fault and there’s nothing we should do

[-] Hexamerous@hexbear.net 39 points 4 days ago

You forgot: It's happening, but it's their fault!

points at some poor country with a per capita carbon footprint of like 1/10th of the average westerner

[-] shath@hexbear.net 20 points 4 days ago

It's happening but china is doing way more so we shouldn't bother

[-] agentant@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago

China's doing it but we shouldn't because of the cost China is incurring in doing it

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 26 points 4 days ago

some of those things would work if we had climate stalin, other things would work too like putting all the cattlemen in gulags.

[-] Crucible@hexbear.net 16 points 4 days ago

100% agree. Veering back and forth between 'The world will survive so who cares' and the wonderwaffen one size fits all fix is all they have left. Point out 'the world surviving' is just reducing it to salty water and amino acid sludge, not some edenic moment where the deer and foxes reclaim the cities and they just shut off entirely

[-] Hexamerous@hexbear.net 7 points 4 days ago

My bet is on the crabs.

[-] Crucible@hexbear.net 7 points 4 days ago

stabby-crab armed-crab begone The anthrocene followed by the carcinocene

[-] Jarmund@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 3 days ago

Eventually, we will all CRAB 🦀

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 days ago

they believe that some green “wounderwaffen” or “wounder-tech” like carbon capture, lab grown meat, AI or whatever is going to save us all deus ex machina style last minute by a huge push from all investors/the invisible hand and “one of the good” billionaires.

Even if such wonder tech is invented, it will be in China and western countries will do everything possible to stop on behest of their oligarchs.

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 65 points 4 days ago

In June 2018, [Heath] claimed that "cultural Marxism" was "running rampant".

hitler-detector , but also sicko-wistful

[-] orlando@hexbear.net 31 points 4 days ago

ah so he's duplicitous scum like so many national front->re[whatever] before and since and this is just the latest mutation of his shit-eating grift against humankind. who'd've known.

[-] Moomoo_Milk@hexbear.net 51 points 4 days ago

You dealing with hotter temperatures isn’t the elephant in the room you absolute jackass. You might be able to adapt, but it’s destroying the fucking ecosystem and will obliterate the ability to cultivate crops. And that’s putting aside the poor animals that are going to go extinct because our fucking species can’t limit itself for one fucking second.

[-] kleeon@hexbear.net 44 points 4 days ago

googled this idiot's name and found this article from 2004 where he peddles typical climate denialist talking points. Very predictable. We're going to see this a lot - these people would go from "climate change isn't real" to "it's real but it's too late to do anything about it"

[-] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

There's a Yes Minister clip they've been using as a blueprint since the 80s (well, before that too, but the clip exemplified it)

Bernard Woolley: What if the Prime Minister insists we help them?
Appleby: Then we follow the four-stage strategy.
Woolley: What’s that?
Sir Richard Wharton: Standard Foreign Office response in a time of crisis. In stage one we say nothing is going to happen.
Appleby: Stage two, we say something may be about to happen, but we should do nothing about it.
Wharton: In stage three, we say that maybe we should do something about it, but there’s nothing we can do.
Appleby: Stage four, we say maybe there was something we could have done, but it’s too late now.

[-] EveningCicada@hexbear.net 21 points 4 days ago

Another classic is argument is: yes it's happening, but we are smol bean so it doesn't matter if we do nothing because China will release too much co2 regardless

[-] Speaker@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago

There was an article posted here earlier this year (probably FT or WSJ, though I can't find the link) that was literally "China is decarbonizing too fast, but at what cost".

[-] Hexamerous@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

parenti

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

There are so many people who piss in the public pool so it doesn't matter if I stop doing it. (Continues pissing)

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 52 points 4 days ago

At least they’re getting a bit more honest.

“But consooming less is too HAAAARD! I love my treats! Can’t we just be deniers? It’s easier for me!”

And they lecture us about toughening up.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 22 points 4 days ago

Does net zero even require consuming less? It seem like someone complaining that nobody will have food if we ban single-use plastics, as if we can't work around it, but it wouldn't be as profitable for the shareholders.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 26 points 4 days ago

Reducing is a huge part of bringing down emissions. It doesn’t have to look like austerity, it can be like using stuff that would otherwise go to waste, Buying things that last, and when you do get plastic, even just using them for more than their single use helps a lot. For example, I’m bringing my lunch in a takeout box I got once into work.

[-] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago

Also the US military is the biggest carbon emitter on Earth and that doesn't do anything good for anyone

[-] agentant@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

That's not true, it's great for American businesses.

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago

It means no mineral carbon that can't be to 100% recycled. On a survivable timeline that's almost certainly less consumption for a century or so. But survivable timeline doesn't appear to be much of a priority.

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[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 32 points 4 days ago

Did climate change launch a tactical strike on that windmill

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 17 points 4 days ago

Sort of? It could have been attacked space laser owned by Trump's Space Force. Or by a James Bond oil baron villain.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 26 points 4 days ago

IT JUST KEEPS GOING YOU IDIOT

IT DOESN'T STOP GETTING HOTTER UNTIL YOU STOP PUTTING CARBON IN THE AIR

IT WILL NOT STOP AT MEDITERRANEAN

[-] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 28 points 4 days ago

They should be more proactive and just pre-emptively burn Britain to the ground

[-] DasRav@hexbear.net 35 points 4 days ago

"We did nothing and we are out of ideas!"

[-] Crucible@hexbear.net 26 points 4 days ago

Sure, get used to the heat just in time for the Atlantic current collapse which means you get Norway's winters now

[-] IranOuttaOil@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago

comfy-cool

[-] Speaker@hexbear.net 22 points 4 days ago

Britain can't defeat the Mummy Lords. Scrap the amulet and embrace life under the Eternal Pharaoh.

[-] Ophrys@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 4 days ago

That is not how it works, mediterranean climate will just not exist anymore. I hate these people, 2026 and these shitheads are still doing the "it is just going to be warmer, it will be nice!"

Also, look at amid slowdown

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 36 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Ital*ans have like half the CO2 emissions of Brit*sh.

[-] Beaver@hexbear.net 26 points 4 days ago

Are these people capable of second-order thinking? They seem to think that the only thing that's going to happen is that the mid summer weather is going to get worse.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 35 points 4 days ago

Also on the homepage...

[-] huf@hexbear.net 22 points 4 days ago

i've been joking about the murmansk riviera for years, but the jokes are less and less jokes and more and more a real forecast

[-] BuhbyeLittleGumshoe@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago

These photos of rural England/Scotland genuinely look like hell. Literally just turned it all flat so the meat animals can graze. There used to be a thick forest (that would be burning rn)!

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[-] agentant@hexbear.net 20 points 4 days ago

Strap this guy to a wind turbine

[-] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago

The UK is not going to end up with Mediterranean climate (even setting aside the fact that globally things will just keep getting hotter). When the AMOC collapses, they're going to end up with a Canadian climate. They're kept much, much warmer than their geography would suggest because of heat transport from equatorial waters. That current is already wobbling.