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I’m back! It’s been a while since I’ve been on this site because I’ve found myself under some financial trouble and I’ve been stressed BUT I wanted to take this opportunity to talk about something I love dearly: dihedral groups!

Consider the symmetries of a square:

We can see that there are 4 reflections and 3 rotations, as well as the act of doing nothing at all. Together, we have 8 total symmetries, and in fact, these are all of the possible symmetries. What this means is that if we do one of these symmetric moves and then do another one, we will have not changed the square, and therefore doing these two moves is the same as doing just one of the 8 symmetries on its own. For example, doing a 90 degree rotation followed by a 180 degree rotation is the same as doing a 270 degree rotation. Also, doing a 90 degree rotation followed by a reflection across the vertical axis is the same as doing a reflection across a diagonal axis.

So in other words, we can define a function that takes two symmetries of a square as input and which outputs another symmetry. Since standard multiplication is a function taking two numbers and outputting another number, it makes sense to borrow the notation of multiplication for this function. Our symmetry function satisfies a few useful properties:

  • Closure: As explained above, for any two symmetries, the function will spit out another symmetry
  • Identity: There is a symmetry (namely, the “do nothing” symmetry) such that when it is input into the function with another symmetry, the function will always simply output the other symmetry
  • Associativity: For any symmetries a, b, and c, (ab)c = a(bc)
  • Inverses: For every symmetry, there is a symmetry that undoes it. For example, rotating a square by 270 degrees undoes rotating it by 90 degrees, and doing a reflection a second time after doing it once undoes the first reflection

These 4 properties are so important that any set of objects with a function defined on it that satisfies all of these properties has a special name: they’re called groups and they’re really freaking awesome. The symmetries of a square as a group is called D~8~, since there are 8 total symmetries. Sometimes you might see it called D~4~, since squares have 4 sides, but I think this convention is a bit silly. In the same way, D~6~ is the symmetries of an equilateral triangle, D~10~ is the symmetries of a regular pentagon, and so forth. In general, D~2n~ is the symmetries of a regular n-gon.

Now, one interesting thing is that groups can contain each other. For example, consider an octagon. Since there are squares hidden within the points of octagons, if we pick a square we can see that all of the symmetries of that square are present in the symmetries of of the octagon, so it is possible to throw out all of the other symmetries. What we would be left with is just the symmetries of a square. What this means is that D~8~ is contained in D~16~. You can play similar games to show that there are lots of groups contained inside the dihedral groups.

The last thing I want to talk about regarding these things are their subgroup lattices. Oftentimes mathematicians want to picture the internal structure of a group. One of the ways they might do this is by writing down all of the subgroups of a group they’re studying onto a piece of paper, and then connecting any two with a line if one of them is a subgroup of the other that doesn’t have a subgroup between them. The resulting picture is called a subgroup lattice, and I’ve left some dihedral group lattices below because I think they’re pretty.

two cute dihedral subgroup lattices holding hands and cuddling

Anyway this has been gushposting with your host, yewler. Maybe next mega I might talk about more specific details that make these things cool.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

Planning a Pride trip to a major USian city with my partner and some of their queer friends.

meow-bounce

[-] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I got unironically complimented on my fit by a random queer zoomer. So yeah I'm pretty cool.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Reading This Is How You Lose the Time War and omg it is such a good book, I'll post more thoughts tonight when I'm done (particularly got a lot of thoughts on its themes) but taking a short break so I can eat and I just gotta gush about it a bit

spoilersI love Red and Blue so much. Red has such a sweet naïveté and inexperience that belies a genuine and infectious enthusiasm. I find her utterly adorable. Blue meanwhile is such a fun romantic; eloquent and flirty yet also truly sweet and interested, hungering for that intimacy. While I relate to both, she's the one that feels closer to myself, honestly. Particularly her flirting is very me. Red feels more like someone I'd want to cherish, even if often her naïveté feels close to home.

And gods the prose! It's so good and creative and beautiful. There's been so many descriptions that made my jaw drop as I read them since they were so gorgeously vivid yet brief. Like, to take an example from the first chapter:

"A tremor passes through the soil--do not call it earth. The planet dies. Crickets chirp. Crickets survive, for now, among the crashed ships and broken bodies on this crumbling plain. Silver moss devours steel, and violet flowers choke the dead guns. If the planet lasted long enough, the vines that sprout from the corpses' mouths would grow berries.

It won't, and neither will they."

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Aw! I loved it so much, it was adorable. It's short too. I tried to get someone else to read it but she couldn't bring herself to do it (ADHD)

Yuri enemies to lover time war shenanigans~

spoilerIt was interesting how much they both influenced each other across time, both of their most key moments that made them them ended up being influenced by the other in secret ways.

The ending was heart wrenching, I'm really glad they didn't go tragic doomed yuri mode and let the problem get solved

[-] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Finally got a chance to come out to come out to that guy friend coworker. He said all the right thing, that he supports me ect.

misgenderingAlso called me sir half way through the conversation. I started it by telling him of course.
spoiler just complaining like always I've hurt since. Idk why I try. I knew this would be hard but not like this. I actually, literally can't. I don't want to do anything again. I've been so dysphoric lately. The feeling isn't even just from him being a dipshit. It just hurts all the time now. This is horrible. One of the worst fates I could imagine. A nightmare. :::

[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

Eggy, it's crazy to me how much progress you've made. You're coming out to so many people. A few months ago, I bet you couldn't even imagine being where you are now. Everyone here sees you moving fast. Reflect on this when you feel the pain.

As far as being called "sir", cis people are fucking dumb. Even with my supportive friends, I have to explicitly state "do NOT call me this list of things.

I still flinch when my girl friends call me dude or man even though I know they also say it to cis women.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Honestly impressive, I'm not even out at work, and when I do come out to a few coworkers I'm so apologetic I basically give them an excuse like "yea its OK to still say he, haha, I get it". I'm a fucking doormat for this stuff. I still feel terrified about it even tho I'm 1 year hrt and much more comfortable, so genuinely I'm amazed at your progress.

Girl you are way, way too hard on yourself and believe me I'm the most self-hating, self-judging and high-self-expectations person I know.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

That's amazing progress!

You're so hard on yourself, but I think you're super brave.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

I AM THE VEIN WHISPERER

💪💪💪

[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

You (vein whisperer) vs me (the untappable vein). Who would win?

[-] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago
[-] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Are you sure? Many have tried but they've all pulled out after only a few seconds because they can't handle me mari-smug

[-] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

I squeezed a 24 into a feverish, dehydrated, peripherally shutting down baby. No IO necessary. Your veins may as well be highway sized to me.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Just found out what a teratoma is and now my whole day is ruined

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Consider not looking up fungating tumor!

I had to daily dressing changes on the worst one any doctor had seen! I'll never forget the smell!

[-] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Thanks for ruining my day as well. blob-no-thoughts

body horrorApparently it’s not piss that’s stored in the balls, it’s teeth. maw

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

I'm very sorry for that. Tbf tho they are extremely interesting. It's like some weird Cronenberg shit, but real.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I was just joking. I already knew about them. catgirl-smug

But before that I’ve only seen the tailbone ones, so I didn’t know that they could grow in those other spots as well.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

ill look it up too!

edit:

aww gross, but not so bad!

look, why not sing with me to feel better. it's ok!

🎶you say potato, i say potata,

🎶you say teratoma i say teratomata

🎶the cocyx, ovaries, testicles, oh baby

let's cut the whole thing oooooff.🎶

[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

(lesbianly develops crush on a very tall very cute WNBA player)

[-] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago

damn, being a girl is great. i can just sit about the house relaxing in a sports bra with an open flannel over it, this rocks

[-] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

I think Yakuza 0 and the kiwami remakes are a good starting point for people but for the OGs like myself they really give you a full on deep kiss on the mouth and hold you as they look you in the eye calling you sexy for understanding all the sly future references crush 0 and kiwami onlys will never get it.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

I do think they should have added akiyama into kiwami tbh, most of these sexy references for sexy people are only in the substories while the main story doesn't get much in the way of these.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

Measurements and brainwormsEvery time I measure myself or get measured I somehow get closer to having an hourglass figure despite doing literally nothing. My waist keep getting thinner and my chest and hips keep getting wider. I'm genuinely even close to my hips being as wide as my shoulders.

My brain can't keep up or cope with it. I still feel like someone who wears men's medium/large and is bigger than the women around me despite the fact that I currently wear women's smalls and, beyond height, most women I know have bigger sizes than me. I even know that, when I first measured myself pre-E, that I was actually on par with cis women's measurements (based on the dress I was ordering) with the one exception being my waist which has since gotten smaller such that everything is on par now except occasionally height and shoulder width depending on the piece. So I recognise that I was actually more feminine in build in the first place than I thought I was, and I recognise that I'm incredibly lucky to have this sort of body. And I'm really grateful about that, I love it and I've loved watching it sculpt itself with estrogen.

But it is also existentially terrifying to consider when it shows just how much my body has changed in the 1.5 years since I started E and got kicked out. My waist getting thinner? That's because I literally ate nothing more than one muffin a day (at best) for a whole month immediately after I was kicked, and while I've been eating better I'm still not eating as well as I used to. My boobs and hips getting bigger? Typical estrogen effects that make me happy, but it's also pushing me into having a hourglass-adjacent body shape that is, for trans women, very atypical and feels almost alien compared to what I expected my body to become. I'll reiterate that I'm incredibly happy with all of these changes. But I'd be lying if I didn't say that whenever I get a concrete number to think about it scares me a little. It's always a reminder of where I was a year and a half ago and how my self-image doesn't align with my actual self at times, it's always a reminder of how quick a body can drastically change, and it's always a reminder that, maybe, a lot of the things I was dysphoric over were never quite so bad as they used to feel to me.

To use a term I loathe, being faced with these concrete numbers make me feel like I've been a "bdd passoid." I despise that term and how people use it to just insult anyone they consider prettier than them, while being dismissive of whatever dysphoria the person in question has. But it almost feels like it fits me, when I'm given these exact measurements that tell me not only is my body close to cisnormative patriarchal beauty standards in ways unattainable for other people, but it's been that way for maybe longer than I thought.

I've always had a very visual relationship with my dysphoria. It feels like, if I can't see the thing I'm dysphoric about in the moment, then it stops being present in my head. A good example is body hair. I often don't shave as often when it's winter and I'm wearing pants or tights since I can't see, and thereby feel bad about, my body hair. I'd prefer to always be clean shaven, of course. But there's a point where the cost-benefit ratio of shaving my body loses out and it's when I will be actively seeing the dysphoria-inducing thing in question. So this makes the possibility of being a "bdd passoid" feel stronger, after all, BDD is more obsessed with a false perception than anything actual. Maybe my dysphoria was always just that.

But that line of thought ends there, because I am genuinely very happy with my appearance now, in a way where BDD wouldn't seem to apply to me as well. And I mean, of course. "bdd passoids" are usually people who do worry about certain features and the term is just used as a cudgel to be shitty and dismissive of their hurt, to suggest that one's own hurt is more real and therefore valid unlike the passoid's. It's a cruel term like everything else that's come from /tttt/ and its adjacent spaces.

But in my case specifically, it matters that the thing that provokes this feeling is getting concrete measurements. I've always used body measurements as a way to actually track how femme I am, trying to chase a ridiculous cisnormative beauty standard because it's the thing that I thought would bring me some joy. And now that I've gotten quite close to it... It has. And so much of my dysphoria around these things is gone, and goes away every time I do it again. But certain things, my smallness in particular, haven't sunk in yet.

I don't really think my obsession with measurements has been healthy at all. I mean, obviously right? I became so fixated on them because it felt like a calculable way to determine what I'd need to magically pass. The same sort of toxic relationship with my body that spaces like /tttt/ promote, even if I never went there. I've never been quite so bad that I'd measure myself constantly; I only do it when necessary for clothing purchases. But nonetheless it has often been a huge source of both euphoria and dysphoria. Now that I've reached the "good" measurements, it always provokes euphoria. But it also always reminds me that I used to have a body that some would consider already lucky for a trans woman. So why wasn't I satisfied with it? Well, I don't think it was the right body for me. Why should I fixate on if I'm allowed to have felt dysphoric about it. I felt dysphoric regardless, wishing that away won't change anything. And now that I feel euphoric about my body more often than not, why should I believe that it's me being a "bdd passoid" rather than simply a dysphoria about something that just wasn't right for me? Why shouldn't I be allowed to feel this tangled mess of positive and negative emotions when I get a measurement and recognise how far I've come in this tangled mess of a life I've lived? I think that's where I'm at, now. It's a messy feeling that I get, and it's probably not the healthiest thing to feel when being measured. But I also don't think it's so negative as it could be. I'm okay with who I am, both body and mind, even if it took some time to get here.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

i don't have much to say except I can relate to a lot of this.

spoilerI'm very grateful for the way my body is, but I still do struggle sometimes with dysphoria about certain things. I don't typically talk about things like measurements since when I was much younger I was in a situation for some reason where a friend and I were measuring each other and she got mad that I was "better" than her.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago

The worst part of transitioning for an adventurer isn't getting the literal breastplate fitted to all your armour, it's the voice training to change your pain grunts from "ugh" to "ugh~ ♥️".

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Dorley chapter 32AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA i knew it was coming but omgggg

Bethany Erin is an adorable name and i'm so fucking happy for her. kinda funny how stock standard Dorley material she is, but that also means she's by far not as alone as she thought she was

oh and Amy, of all people, being the one to make Melissa and Shahida finally kiss was perfect. i really hope Abby reaches out soon though

[-] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Anyone else have the hair type that peaks one or two days after you wash it?

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

one of the things I'm possibly irrationally happy with myself about is feminizing my sneeze.

I legitimately get angry if I'm around someone and I almost-sneeze-but-then-don't because I feel robbed of the opportunity to show off that I Sneeze Cute now.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

immature sex words funny jokeChanging my pronouns on the dating site I'm on to 😩/🍆/🔨 and seeing who responds

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