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Full title: Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version "to access a decade-old, discontinued video game"

Ubisoft's lawyers have responded to a class action lawsuit over the shutdown of The Crew, arguing that it was always clear that you didn't own the game and calling for a dismissal of the case outright.

The class action was filed in November 2024, and Ubisoft's response came in February 2025, though it's only come to the public's attention now courtesy of Polygon. The full response from Ubisoft attorney Steven A. Marenberg picks apart the claims of plaintiffs Matthew Cassell and Alan Liu piece by piece, but the most common refrain is that The Crew's box made clear both that the game required an internet connection and that Ubisoft retained the right to revoke access "to one or more specific online features" with a 30-day notice at its own discretion.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is why I will always have some nostalgia for physical media. I still got CDs I bought in the 90s (which I've copied onto my hard drives a long, long time ago) and while they need a like coaxing to work at times, they are forever mine and no one can take them from me.

I was very hesitant to go on steam specifically for their 'you don't own shit even if you paid and followed the rules' garbage.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Steam is crazy in how it's still usable and not completely enshittified after existing for so many years. I don't know how they do it

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It's called staying away from venture capital. It really is as simple as that. Because Valve has a lucrative business model they have no need or desire to raise capital from outside investors, therefore there is nobody to squeeze them for value at the expense of their customers.

If you watch Cory Doctorow's talk where he coined the word "enshittification" he explains how the process works, and it starts with outside investment. Enshittification is just a catchy term for value extraction, from the perspective of the customer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Damn, now I understand the hype!

A Blessing From The Lord

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

I bought Star Wars squadrons and it worked for a bit. Now it doesn't even boot and I don't know why. Initially it was my shitty anti-virus that was causing the problem, but even after disabling it it doesn't load.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

I gotta thank Ubisoft for saving me money by consistently saying dumbass shit so I don't buy their crappy games. The one Elon tweet was still pretty funny though I won't lie.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And people will still defend this company

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Does anyone defend them? I think what happens is that people get mad at them but then still buy the games anyway because they're absolute fucking idiots. I believe this is what happens.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

People are still buying the games. Call it what you want but if you give them money it's your fault they keep doing this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Same goes for the people who whine about how broken COD is yet still buy it every single year. People often wonder why the game industry is the way it is, but then you realize the average person has a gold fish brain and will keep wasting their money on crap just to be disappointed over and over. Companies absolutely love that kind of customer and would rather rely on them than actually try.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Yea that's exactly what I'm saying. I blame the consumers. It's not like they don't have options.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Yeah, that's true

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

The way of the future....VCRs went away. DVDRs went away, replaced with DVRs and membership streaming, where you can "buy" a movie on Amazon Prime, but if they lose the rights to the movie, so do you - oh well. Your Tesla will brick, if Elon gets mad at you, and your video games will stop working if "the man" unplugs the server. Oh, and dont get caught pulling out your old dusty VCR to record the Super Bowl to watch later....thats a copyright violation. The oligarchs want to make sure the plebes eventually own nothing. If the masters can take it all away, the peasants will do what they're told, be quiet about it, and smile when in sight of the masters.

[–] [email protected] 255 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Ubisoft cannot complain when gamers "pirate" their games then.

If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't theft and all that.

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