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[–] [email protected] 112 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Only people’s movements built on collective non-violent struggle will be able to successfully resist the MAGA agenda and compel change that meets the needs of the great mass of working and oppressed people in the U.S. and internationally.

Oh, honey, bless your heart

[–] [email protected] 82 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Lmao they really did him like that?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah it's pretty rough

[–] [email protected] 64 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

CPUSA is trapped in amber from the civil rights era of politics.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Except there were widespread riots in the civil rights era, violent unrest was a major factor behind the civil rights act. They’re trapped in the version of the civil rights era that we learn about in high school.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago

Imagine learning about the civil rights era in high school instead of stopping at WW1 every year

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago

non-violent struggle

michael-laugh

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Marx and Engels wrote plenty about how violence might be unavoidable. Y'know, the people who Marxist-Leninists (CPUSA is supposedly ML) beliefs are fundamentally based on. Lenin had quite similar things to say. Condemning adventurism is a common ML line, but they seem to go a bit far.

"Will the peaceful abolition of private property be possible? It would be desirable if this could happen, and the communists would certainly be the last to oppose it....But they also see that the development of the proletariat in nearly all civilised countries has been violently suppressed...we communists will defend the interests of the proletarians with deeds as we now defend them with words" - Engels. Where are they getting that "only..non-violent struggle" from?

I mean, I sorta get where they're coming from, endorsing violence has dubious legality, but if you have to compromise so hard why say anything at all.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"do not haggle over principles, do not make 'concessions' in theory" - marx
"Without a revolutionary theory there can be no revolutionary movement" - lenin

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Everyone: "Join an org"

The org:

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago

Disco Elysium communist quest finale spoileri'm in a three person book club with a drug addled amnesiac cop, we're levitating matchbooks with our minds, fuck you mean i'm not organized


[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

We're going to start an org and we're going to do communism and you won't be invited based-department

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

CPUSA officially condemns Luigi for doing propaganda of the deed

bloomer

says he should have phone banked towards "Medicare For All" instead

lukashenko-tired

[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 weeks ago

If you actually read the statement they pointedly never condemned Luigi but instead explicitly condemned United Health.

They did try to spin this into a revival of m4a when its clearly dead. At this point GameStop style shenanigans would be more effective than phone banking.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

says he should have phone banked towards "Medicare For All" instead

They didn't say that, this post's title came from a r/Trueanon post that similarly did them dirty.

All the article does is call for mass action rather than individual violence that probably (let's see if there are any copycats) lead to anything

[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hexbear: I wonder who's the admin behind the "lionizing Luigi is cringe" ruling?

Hexbear goes to unhood the shadowy figure only for the shadowy figure to dramatically unhood themselves and reveal themselves to be

Pluto: It's me, Hexbear!

Hexbear: Aw, son of a b*tch.

Pluto: It was me all along, Hexbear!

[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I hate that we can't disband the cpusa because the feds would just make another new one full of feds.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Despite recognizing a real issue, Mangione acted in an individualistic manner that doesn’t strengthen the struggle for real change in this system on behalf of the people who require healthcare and their families and communities.

This hardly much of a condemnation and is basically what most socialist organizations would put out. You basically say this or say nothing at all.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 weeks ago

Agreed its mostly the the non-violence part and the lib “oh call your senator” thing that gets people riled.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 weeks ago

CPUSA needs to disband, their stance on gaza is evil

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 weeks ago

i-cant

Death to America

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 weeks ago

I am being proven right about my decision to leave CPUSA every day

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 weeks ago

Liberalism.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 weeks ago

as if anyone needed further reason to avoid that org at all costs

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 weeks ago

It would have been better if they had just not said anything. Or if they had to still say anything, they could have focused on how this could be a point of building solidarity. Even right-wing working class people are in agreement on how fucked for-profit healthcare is for all of us. But no, they chose to take the same general path as the capitalist propaganda outlets. They hate using real material moments to do revolutionary shit. Deny, Defend, Depose!

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

why condemn luigi when he didn't do anything?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

well he did retweet that shit

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

very true, my mistake

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Why the fuck even call it communist at this point?

‘The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions.’

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims

I dunno, CPUSA is pretty open about their views and aims to elect democrats

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

""radical"" political orgs using wordpress (to the point of not even bothering to change the favicon) are honeypots. prove me wrong.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

wordpress favicon is an immediate signal that your ops team are clowns

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I was paying dues to cpusa a while ago but I stopped after hearing their opinion on Israel.

They are a deeply unserious org.

The PSL seems to be run much better and has actually good opinions

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

My PSL branch just poached the only valuable local CPUSA member soviet-huff

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