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[–] [email protected] 112 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Only people’s movements built on collective non-violent struggle will be able to successfully resist the MAGA agenda and compel change that meets the needs of the great mass of working and oppressed people in the U.S. and internationally.

Oh, honey, bless your heart

[–] [email protected] 82 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Lmao they really did him like that?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah it's pretty rough

[–] [email protected] 64 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

CPUSA is trapped in amber from the civil rights era of politics.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Except there were widespread riots in the civil rights era, violent unrest was a major factor behind the civil rights act. They’re trapped in the version of the civil rights era that we learn about in high school.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago

Imagine learning about the civil rights era in high school instead of stopping at WW1 every year

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

iirc there were still many orgs using the same sort of nonviolence rhetoric at the time. I wasn't saying the represent the entirety of the civil rights movement.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago

non-violent struggle

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Marx and Engels wrote plenty about how violence might be unavoidable. Y'know, the people who Marxist-Leninists (CPUSA is supposedly ML) beliefs are fundamentally based on. Lenin had quite similar things to say. Condemning adventurism is a common ML line, but they seem to go a bit far.

"Will the peaceful abolition of private property be possible? It would be desirable if this could happen, and the communists would certainly be the last to oppose it....But they also see that the development of the proletariat in nearly all civilised countries has been violently suppressed...we communists will defend the interests of the proletarians with deeds as we now defend them with words" - Engels. Where are they getting that "only..non-violent struggle" from?

I mean, I sorta get where they're coming from, endorsing violence has dubious legality, but if you have to compromise so hard why say anything at all.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"do not haggle over principles, do not make 'concessions' in theory" - marx
"Without a revolutionary theory there can be no revolutionary movement" - lenin

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Both of those statements ought to be attributed to Lenin, since the first one seems to be Lenin’s paraphrasing (in What Is To Be Done?) of this letter written by Marx