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The lawsuit claims that Dr. Kanokporn Tangsuan suffered a fatal allergic reaction after eating at a Disney Springs restaurant despite repeatedly informing the waiter of her severe allergy.

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[–] [email protected] 405 points 2 months ago (11 children)

"Disney is calling for the lawsuit to be dismissed because her husband signed up for a one-month trial of the Disney+ streaming service years prior.

The company says signing up for the trial requires users to arbitrate all disputes with the company."

Some lawyers truly are scum.

[–] [email protected] 153 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This could be a precedent-setting case. These fuckers better not get away with this.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So would this mean that Disney can no longer use their massive legal department to crush fair use of their IP? If someone signs up for Disney+, the arbitration agreement goes both ways.

I would think a competent judge would just ask the Disney lawyer that question. Like, "do you want to be out of a job?"

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No.

You and Disney agree to arbitrate all your claims. Disney still retains the right to fuck you over to the full extent of the legal system.

After all, corporations are people, and some people are more people than other people.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

That's the best paraphrase of Animal Farm I've heard in a while.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

But this is happening in post-precedent America

[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 months ago

Maybe we can finally claw these arbitration powers back?

[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Very much nottheonion material. Something like

”Disney Legal Team Argues that Agreeing to the Terms & Conditions of Their Streaming Platform Releases The Company of Any and All Potential Liability in Shellfish Poisonings”

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

"Signing up for a free trial of Disney+ means they can kill you, legally."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

”Disney Legal Team Argues that Agreeing to the Terms & Conditions of Their Streaming Platform Releases The Company of Any and All Potential Liability in Political Assassination”

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Fucking hell

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If a lawyer is scum, then so is the one paying them.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago

Some people/companies/etc. really take “you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take” too far.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago

I do hope whoever suggested that this is a legitimate cause to dismiss the case dies of an intestinal blockage caused by hemorrhoids. Just a thing I hope.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Arguing over health/death via a technicality is one of the lowest of lows.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This shouldn't even be a technicality here. If this goes through and a TOS is universally binding to your life then the court system just died. Also they can put other ridiculous things in there like you owe them the subscription money in perpetuity even if you decide to uninstall the app. They'll argue the consideration is there because you can re-install at any time.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago

this is actual parody dystopian movie level crazy wtf

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

All corporate lawyers are scum.

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[–] [email protected] 200 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Arbitration clauses need to be deemed illegal.

Especially ones that are mandatory for employment

[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 months ago (1 children)

or at the absolute bare fucking minimum be opt-in only, instead of "opt out by sending us a handwritten letter through snail mail within 45 minutes of this notice." the shit offers less than zero benefit to the consumer and basically lets corporations get away with murder

nothing will ever change to make them go away

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Opt in with customers isn't a thing. If you don't opt in, you don't get housing, or Internet, or phone service. The list goes on. Opt in is libertarian propaganda. No different than at will employment.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I was gonna say basically the same thing, ‘opt in’ is just a solid point of leverage away from ‘required.’

Should be illegal.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Arbitration has its place in B2B contracts.

With consumers or employees? Absolutely not

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm just about to move to Quebec, which is based on the French Napoleonic code rather than English Common Law. I'm not an expert, but I understand that the French system does not rely on precedent in making judicial decisions, but everything has to be codified in the law.

Anyway, another one of the legal differences between Quebec and other provinces in Canada is that mandatory arbitration clauses are illegal.

The medical system may be imploding even faster than the rest of Canada, and my rights as an English speaker may be stripped from me by the time I move, but they do have some protections for individuals.

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[–] [email protected] 119 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Incredible.

Do the right thing, courts.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 months ago

Pllllllllllleeeeeeaaassseeeee let this go to trial. I'm begging y'all. They weren't even active subscribers of Disney+, they only got the trial. But holy fuck either way, this is stupid. Arbitration agreements should be illegal.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 months ago (1 children)

ugh, how revolting. for a while there, while they were fighting desantis, i forgot how evil disney can be.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Evil begets evil, Mr. president. (Extra points if you can name the movie)

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

for a gen-xer like me, that's easy.

leeloo dallas multipass

ZZZZ!!!

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

I am a meat popsicle

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's the one where they are in the future, and have aliens, and a bunch of greedy people. It has a hero in it, that makes a stand for what is right, killing a bunch of aliens.

Battlefield Earth, right?

(/s, please don't kill me, Corbin)

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 months ago

Everyone who approved and delivered this argument should go to prison.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Event happened at raglan road Irish pub, when raglan road staff failed to do their job in regards to food allergens.

Diner dies from anaphylaxis due to ingested dairy and nuts, which they were ASSURED BY THE WAITER WAS NOT IN ANY OF THEIR FOOD.

Disney is calling for the lawsuit to be dismissed because her husband signed up for a one-month trial of the Disney+ streaming service years prior. The company says signing up for the trial requires users to arbitrate all disputes with the company

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's insane. When are citizens going to be protected from fucking mandated forced arbitration?????

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Never because when corporations do it it's "capitalism" and "freedom".

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Haven’t courts ruled that those terms and conditions aren’t totally enforceable since no one can really read and/or understand them all?

This is a food issue and literally has nothing to do with any fucking digital agreement whatsoever. Full stop.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The estate should file the claim. They wronged her, not the husband. By having the estate file suit, that would negate anything the husband may have done.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And sue the chef personally, for completeness

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Holy cow. Just pay the man Disney. Then kindly fuck off

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It would be a lot more beneficial to them to add an arbitration clause to all their movies. Watching the next avengers movie? You give up the rights to your first born.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How is this not a criminal matter

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It could be a difficult thing to prove who is at fault, and the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt that the staff at the restaurant were at fault individually.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, my brain went straight to, "Someone along that chain is one of those people who think allergy sufferers are just weak complainy people and faking it"

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

I've seen this Black Mirror.

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