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there are labs in mexico that basically replaced the facilities that used to refine locally grown opium into black tar. fentanyl precursors are extremely easy to acquire by an organization. they were originally coming from gray market chinese labs (the CPC cracked down hard) now likely from india which has a well developed pharm chemical industry

i wouldn't be suprised if some synthesis was happening in the U.S. also there was a period where tons of analogs were being manufactured and sold on the darkweb mostly to research chemical enthusiasts. so there could still be stockpiles of these analogs being fed into the "heroin" supply. i have no doubt these original RCs were being added to low quality heroin which basically started this whole nightmare.

so in a sense it did originally come from inside the house. then capitalism came and did it's thing

Some drugs actually do come from China and Mexico.

However, you shouldn't accept the reactionary framing of the drug narrative. Availability of drugs is not what makes people do drugs. Americans are doing drugs because the quality of life in America is hellish. People are doing drugs as a form of escapism from the shitty existence of American life.

Reject the premise that stopping the flow of drugs will make less people do drugs. Less people will do drugs when they have a better life, access to healthcare, higher wages, safer workplace, solidarity with other workers, etc.

cops bring a lot in: https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/san-jose-police-union-executive-charged-attempted-illegal-importation-fentanyl

as for where it's produced, i have no fucking clue

Me, I make it. Localized entirely in my kitchen.

Sackler Family/Purdue pharmaceuticals corporation.

Literally ruling class ghouls in the healthcare industry caused this. But that doesn't stop reactionaries from blaming "woke" or whatever the 10'o clock news spoon feeds them.

I haven't looked into this yet, but I can almost guarantee there is a purposeful blending or blurring of the numbers or lines around legal, legitimate-use medical grade fentanyl that hospitals use for all kinds of shit and the illegal, questionable quality, dubious source stuff. There's also going to be a lot of fear mongering around precursors for the drugs. Say it takes 1g of chemical A in the production of 1kg of good quality fentanyl in a good lab. The DEA or other motivated agencies will absolutely just say every bit of chemical A that enters the country could be used in fentanyl production.

But again, this is all speculation, I haven't looked into it yet, I just know how cop-brains operate

the fentanyl fairy, but only if you've been a good boy throughout the year

Countries with less strict precursor laws. like China and Mexico.

We make the legal versions here and also source it and ingredients from places like China and others. Here it's prescribed by doctors for pain. The political stuff mostly concerns illegal versions and the horrific addiction qualities of the drug. You can look at Actiq, Duragesic, and Sublimaze for the legal versions. Also cops. And some of the drug companies have been accused of selling ingredients illegally. It's pretty fucked all the way around.

Janssen Pharmaceutica, a pharmaceutical company headquartered in Beerse, Belgium, and wholly-owned by Johnson & Johnson.

It comes from a can, it was put there by a man, in a factory downtown.

It absolutely comes from Mexico and the precursors do come from China/ maybe India, but it’s hard to think Mexico or China are doing it to harm the United States and not the United States using it as a reason to continue the militarization of the police force, which leaves only one conclusion. America is the one either producing or overseeing the production of fentanyl. Considering the connection between American law enforcement and cartels is pretty open it’s hard to dispute.

It comes from precursor-loose countries (or it's made here with precursors from said countries). That used to be China, but I see a lot more Indian rc's nowadays.

China makes most of the fentanyl and/or precursors. I read somewhere that Germany also produces a ton.

Basically, fentanyl is an actual drug used in healthcare, and its precursors are used in other applications as well. Some companies work directly with cartels and others have inside men. But other companies refuse to do so because it attracts too many eyes. But that doesn’t stop the flow. Criminal syndicates also have corporate front entities that pose as legitimate pharmaceutical firms. They’ll put in orders, and some companies/customs/regulators may either turn a blind eye to the end user, others completely ignorant of the end user because the criminals are good at hiding.

Now, even if the entire supply chain is legitimate, there’s still the fact that drug cartels have guys with machine guns. If they can’t do the corporate route, they’ll just rob the shipment.

canada

well, you see, when mama fentanyl and papa fentanyl love each other very much...

fentanyl is stored in the balls

Death to America

That's information you can't have.

We milk it from the Beast

Not everything is a conspiracy. China has every reason to want it's primary adversary's populace addicted and dying of overdoses.

seems like it'd be hard to get reliable data on this. anybody here in the fentanyl business? im not a cop :)