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[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 hour ago
[-] albatross811@leminal.space 1 points 55 minutes ago

As others have listed, can't really share this as the company owns all the work. Even then, not every company is the same. There's a lot of stupid shit I could automate in my current position that would be useless at every other company--the processes (and reasons behind them) are completely different.

Even if the LLM worked flawlessly, you're just proving your lack of purpose to the company which means they'll fire you. What do these people even think?!

[-] ShutUpWesley@piefed.zip 4 points 4 hours ago

I'm glad I had only spent a few grand on IT certs before the whole industry went tits up. Looking forward to a post internet world with all my hoarded data.

[-] mastod0n@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

For reference, which certs did you to for?

[-] TemplaerDude@sh.itjust.works 18 points 9 hours ago

These fucking morons have convinced themselves that their glorious chat bots are actually able to replace actual work.

[-] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

They can replace some work, especially debugging. There are a bunch of bug fixes I wouldn't have made because debugging them was too inane for too little reward. But Claude has no problem writing 14 throw-away scripts to try and reproduce the issue until it succeeds.

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 9 hours ago

Those agents aren't yours in multiple ways. That's not how things work.

[-] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

It's funny too because as soon as the model changes the behavior shifts. So it's even less of a flex.

[-] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago

I hope the hiring manager responds with leetcode questions on a whiteboard.

[-] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago
[-] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 22 points 10 hours ago

Translation: "I have no real understanding of anything beyond feeding it into ChatGPT. Please pay me millions of dollars to be a net loss to your organization."

[-] dotned@lemmy.world 36 points 14 hours ago

An average 22 year old does not have the experience to automate 10 workflows, let alone 100. They also don't know all the gotchas. This is dumb advice.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago

Also "automating a workflow" IMO shouldn't involve having an agent at the end. If tokens and cloud models with selling a dollar for a quarter pricing levels are required for your automated workflow to work, you've set up a ticking time bomb.

Use this subsidized garage to churn out regular automation that you can maintain after the merry go round inevitably stops. I was told as much by Microsoft AI specialists themselves. Do not toss out working ci/cd processes in favor of putting a chatbot in the middle, because who knows if you'll still be able to run that chatbot in a couple of years.

[-] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago

Pretty much the same time bomb around any proprietary software.

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 27 points 14 hours ago

If you're automating workflows, you don't get to take your current employers code with you when you leave.
Are you supposed to just be writing random automations for things that might exist somewhere? Why would anyone think that's impressive?

Either you're showing me something useless you did for no reason, or you're asking if I want to see some stolen IP. Neither of these is giving me a particularly good impression.

[-] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

Much more impressive to have genuine, real contributions to open aource projects.. Not those garbage "I fixed 10000 typos in readmes which were actually just word choices and 250 of them got pushed so pls hire me"

[-] swicano@programming.dev 100 points 19 hours ago

If someone said "do you want to interview my agents first", I think the interview would be over. Well maybe the first time I'd be tempted to see if I could tokenmaxx someone else's agent. After that it would be too much work for the enjiyment. Maybe I should automate that workflow.... Oh no they got me!

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 77 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

"Your agents!?! You mean the proprietary models you did not develop, own, or control, and just pay a foreign SaaS company to utilize, built by people much smarter than you, using software coded by people much more competent than you, and can be replaced or removed at any time? Why do I need you again?"

"I like money. Me want money. Give money now. Ooga booga"

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 30 points 18 hours ago

The caricature you sketch definitely does exist

But so does the IT hobbyist using an open source model with local hardware and customised training.

Of course i just realise that person wouldn’t call it an agent, they wouldn’t tell you to interview the agent and probably wisely frame it as:

“I develop my own tools and automation systems to free up time and resources for more important projects” at most refer to “machine learning” and absolute avoid using the term “ai”.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago

If you're smart, you'd use your personal computer running a local AI model. It's your expertise that made working prompts because AI on its own is trash. So when you leave, your knowledge goes with you.

[-] DokPsy@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago

Yeah but you're forgetting one thing that years in IT have taught me. Most people aren't smart. Most people are dumber than shit, are barely literate, and refuse to learn. They only know "I press this specific button located at this one place for things to happen". If the button is changed in any way such as a slightly different color or moved by an inch, they are completely lost and helpless

[-] Dookieman12@piefed.social 5 points 16 hours ago

Most people are dumber than shit, are barely literate, and refuse to learn

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who feels this way. Thank you. I feel slightly more normal today.

[-] Cronization@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

How's the joke by George Carlin go again?

Something like "imagine the intelligence of the average person and then realize that half of people are dumber than that."

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago

Ugh, you are giving me flashbacks to when the start button stopped saying “start” on it. I lost so much faith in humanity during that upgrade.

[-] Kalothar@lemmy.ca 19 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, what the fuck am I automating in my daily life that would be beneficial for a new position I’m walking in to?

Also, automation and AI are not exclusive to each other. I have tons of automations at home and my house is set up with a bunch of virtual assistant commands and lights, Air conditioning and some other things have an automated schedule. None of this was done with AI.

I work as a lead software engineer a at a large e-commerce and manufacturing company. I guess I could train an agentic ai to automate some of my workflows, but at the reduced cost of ownership of problems and intricate knowledge of how to fix issues as they arrive. LLMs love to inject mock data that “looks” right, but in practice this doesn’t mix well with programming.

LLM are self poisoning prediction machine, and as far as I’ve been able to test can’t even handle multi-level react apps that are intertwined with 3rd party applications. Basically making it useless with any software that has multiple integrations.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 17 points 14 hours ago

I would actually punch this person

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 9 hours ago

The world if people like this guy couldn't speak without getting the shit kicked out of them.

[-] blight@piefed.blahaj.zone 61 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Even though programming and IT is a great hobby of mine, I ultimately decided not to pursue it on a university level as I didn't want to potentially turn my hobby into something I despise. I've been regretting this decision a lot throughout my life, but as AI becomes more and more incorporated into the work life of a programmer, I'm starting to feel relief. I would not want to work in that field today.

[-] msage@programming.dev 2 points 7 hours ago

It's been bad even before that.

But I'm just an old person yelling at clouds.

[-] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 56 points 18 hours ago

Programmer here: i actively despise where this field is heading and where it is at right now

[-] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

i’m studying software engineering rn and honestly i’m not sure i even want to finish my bachelor’s degree. finding an internship (required for the degree) is almost impossible now and even if i do manage to get a job, do i want to spend the rest of my life prompting claude? fuck no!

[-] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 hours ago

I am a software dev trained 3 years worked 4. Even i cant find a job. Make of that what you will

[-] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 11 points 15 hours ago

As someone who made the opposite decision, I get it. And you're not wrong. I still love what I do when it's just me and some trusted colleagues, but I've had to watch people I trusted deeply in this field fall into just the worst AI holes. Thankfully AI is bad enough that, idk how to put it. I've developed an understanding with management and clients that I might not have an email out saying my project is done as fast as the people that do use AI, but my project will actually be done faster. If a solution takes me 2 months to finish, it'll take a week in testing before hitting production. I've seen people declare a solution made in weeks only to spend actual months in testing, having to fix bug after bug. And they're not even the worst offenders. I know people that will deadass say "looks good enough" and have broken test servers with just actual garbage.

[-] MBech@feddit.dk 19 points 17 hours ago

I was considering it like 10 years ago when you couldn't go anywhere on the internet without someone telling you "Programmers make a bajillion dollars pr day, even the bad ones! You should become a programmer!!!", but I figured it was just companies wanting more applicants to force down the pay.

[-] otterpop@lemmy.world 16 points 17 hours ago

I think you made the right choice. The IT sector has been undergoing progressive enshittification for decades and it's really gotten bad with AI.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

Regret is a funny thing since none of us are fortune tellers. When you realize that every decision you make works the same way, you get a lot more chill about life.

[-] kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 45 points 18 hours ago

Laaaaame

First off, they're not his agents unless he's got his own LLM running on his own server; and you can't just show up at a new job with a server all like, yeah, plug this into your network and grant me permissions, it'll be fine.

Secondly, you can automate workflows without LLMs. Crontab, for instance. Trillions of people have been automating workflows for tens of thousands of years. Agentic automation is more expensive and less reliable than cron.

If someone is showing up at my office and telling me they're going to use Claude to rename a .PDF I'm going to laugh and then ask them to leave.

You want the future? Don't be the guy selling shovels during a gold rush. Be the shovel-maker, and then hoard your shovels to inflate demand. Fill your house with shovels. Use shovels instead of plates and cutlery and clothing. Make sure everyone knows that you're The Shovel King (or Queen) and don't tell anyone you're unemployed, no matter how many job interviews you fuck up by talking about shovels.

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

unless he’s got his own LLM running on his own server

You forgot the part where the LLM also needs to be trained exclusively on the creations of that very person themselves. Everything else is stolen credits.

[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

Why would you go through the hassle of setting Cron when you can ask an LLM running on a server in another continent every minute: "now it's [time]. If it's [time_required], then do this"

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 30 points 18 hours ago

Aww, poor little guy can’t automate things without agents.

[-] scops@reddthat.com 10 points 18 hours ago

Right? Automation is a fantastic skillset, and when a tool breaks? It takes me a fraction of the time to troubleshoot one I wrote myself than it would some vibe coded bullshit.

And the next tool I write comes out faster and accounts for the edge cases that broke the last one as I understand the system I'm interfacing with better.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

“What’s that boss man? You need me to fill out a google sheet twice a day with data from our support ticketing system? No problem!”

Boss man, two weeks after I wrote a script and added it to cron: “Wow, you’re really dependable!”

[-] edg@lemmy.world 20 points 18 hours ago

Every day I am radicalized a little bit more

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 9 points 17 hours ago

Why would they hire you if you're not doing anything.

[-] arsCynic@piefed.social -2 points 8 hours ago

This is Sal Khan from the Khan Academy. No matter one's stance on AI, Sal's perspective is worth listening to.

Source: Khan Academy CEO: The Real AI Opportunity Is in Boring Industries.

[-] I_Clean_Here@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago

Agents for what? Liking the best memes on Reddit? Discovery for user and business needs is so fucked.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 6 points 17 hours ago

I work in cinema content

Try that shit with studio IP. I fucking dare you

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