... You know literally nothing about the technology if you can only conceive of chatgpt as the baseline, or if you think that it started in 2022.

Chatgpt is based on GPT, the first version of which was released in 2018 and based on work done by Google from the early 2010s through their publicized works in 2017.

If you're so annoyed, why do you keep responding? I think you're just defensive about the AI tools that you like and want them to be somehow different from the ones you don't.

Hopefully they never even knew. Just assumed the catch would come until it suddenly didn't and they never noticed.

Extramarital affairs are bad, but they're not the same as punishing someone for a joke you don't appreciate. And not responding to a text with a joke you didn't find funny is only dubiously that.
Infidelity can be abusive if used as a tool of power, control, or harm. Not all hurtful or disrespectful acts are intrinsically abusive.

I take it you weren't paying much attention during the whole thing?

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2009/11/why-tiger-s-not-talking-about-his-accident.html

Tldr: initial reports indicated that she hit his car and attacked him with a golf club before the crash. Police stated alcohol didn't play a role in the crash. He denied any claims of domestic violence and says she smashed both of his back windows to help him out of the car.

That's certainly what I said isn't it?

Do you have any reason to believe he's the emotionally abusive type of asshole?

Doing something wrong doesn't mean everything they do is wrong.

Hell, we have more evidence for him being the victim of abuse than the perpetrator.

Yeah, pretty much. No one is making me go and I like to see my coworkers occasionally to either plan or just get lunch and maintain some human connection.
But... It's a 1.5 hour drive and the traffic is never, ever, ever nice. I was once passed by a car towing a boat full of loose hay. Must have been going 90mph.

So I do it, but I also cry after making that decision.

Nope, seems a bit wrong to me. I just don't see that behavior in this interchange.

No one has alleged he's that type of asshole, so I see no reason to assume he is. Not every period of silence is the "silent treatment", and responding after someone apologized isn't the same as not responding until they apologized.

Of the things to get upset about with tiger woods, this communication thing is an odd one.
Someone makes a joke. You chuckle and go back to what you were doing, or you don't chuckle and still go back to what you were doing. They send another message that makes you realize they expected a response and took your lack of response the wrong way, so you reply telling them you knew they were joking.

Not every message needs a reply, to say nothing of an immediate one. How would you have had him reply?

Do you reply to every message immediately?

Yeah, so your phone is definitely using the modern iteration of generative AI for the features you're defending. By "hilariously old" I meant more along the lines of "2014". It is exactly what I was talking about when I was talking about smartphone AI features.
It kinda feels like your problem with modern AI is less the ethical issues and more the results you get from it, with the way that you're defending it in the use case you like by saying it's a different type.

As for your odd attack on an academic field: none of those things existed when the departments were founded. Those were all the names for the grants they proposed that led to them creating those things.

Why do you have a hard time accepting that maybe a term has different meanings in different contexts, and using that as the basis for your criticism is shallow compared to any of the other incredibly valid reasons to criticize how it's built, supported, marketed, used or advertised?

Ah, yes. The only bit of marketing terminology that has multiple high profile university research labs dedicated to it since the 50s.

literally no definition for intelligence that is broadly accepted

You're conflating human intelligence with what it means in computer science. We have no way of consistently and meaningfully ranking human intelligence. The intelligence being referred to in AI is not the same thing. It's not even comparing apples to oranges. It's comparing the abstract notion of a triangle to a rabbit.
You may as well say "signals intelligence doesn't exist because we can't define intelligence".

Calling things techno babble doesn't help you look like someone who knows what they're talking about making a distinction.

The "AI" retouching in my phone is not prone to hallucination. It predates the hallucination machines. It just does stuff like (mostly) smoothly removing things like strung cable in photos and that kind of stuff, or does some pretty splendid night time photography.

I hate to break it to you, but that's largely generative AI. You haven't mentioned your phone specifically, but the features in question are at least quite similar to googles magic eraser and night sight features.
Unless your phone is hilariously old, it doesn't predate googles use and development of generative AI.
In one sentence you say it doesn't hallucinate, and the next you say it "mostly" smoothly removes things. First, where do you think it's getting what's behind what it removed? Second, what do you think is happening when it fails to get it right?
The computational photography features are largely a machine learning model being applied to techniques used by traditional photographers.

If you want to use them, I don't care. Just don't pretend they're fundamentally any different than using Photoshop AI tools to do the same thing. It's not. You're using an AI based tool to do something that someone else is doing by hand. It's trained on a dataset pulled from every picture on earth ever uploaded to the Internet.
Your perfectly color calibrated hdr+ photo without any weird stuff blocking the sky doesn't get the same credit as a person who meticulously composited and exposed a set of film photos for those bits.

Not to be a serial contrarian, but I'd say what's being "shilled" as AI today is just as much AI as the AI of yesterday. Which is to say intelligent in the sense of "responsive to environmental changes", not "sentient or sapient".
Autocorrect, red eye reduction, and white balance correction are all different types of AI. So is the tuning function on most decent rice cookers. (Depending on the retouch feature you mean it actually could be from the modern AI wave. It started with images because humans notice a 10% gibberish rate in text, but we don't see a 10% error rate when removing a ketchup stain)

I don't think we're actually in disagreement, but I think in this particular threads context it's implicit that the intention of "fuck AI" isn't "fuck my rice cooker and its weight/heat interpolation function".

People feel that same way about any tool, and get a sense of dismissiveness towards people how use them. I usually don't care about the tools people use as long as they don't try to take credit for the part they didn't do. Whittling and using a lathe are different skill levels when making a table leg, and I won't be impressed by your radial symmetry if you used a lathe, but I can still like the table leg.
The biggest difference is that I don't think there's any generalized ethical issues with lathes that need to be addressed.

Getting upset about someone being open about using the tool, or even not being open about using it, is like getting hung up on questions of who gets credit for the symmetry of a table leg when the carpenter used a lathe powered by a live puppy grinder.

Sure. But that doesn't mean you can't compare musk to Rockefeller or use him as a benchmark.

Using someone as a known benchmark doesn't mean they were good or bad, just that they're an established quantity. Rockefeller was wealthy beyond normal levels of wealth. It makes sense to use him as a comparison.

I don't think that's wrong, but from the other direction.
They're both tools, and as long as you're open about what it actually means to use the tool and what you actually did I don't see an issue.

Sometimes 3D printing is as creative as printing someone else's design. Sometimes the creativity is a modeling and design problem. Sometimes it's a machine operation skill.

AI tools can be "write a book" or "draw me a cat", which isn't much , or it could used to do spot touch ups in a photo, or get feedback on a written work.

Doing something with or without different tools has different advantages and disadvantages, and changes the criteria that you judge it by.
Some people feel the same way about digital cameras or cell phone cameras. I don't think the device picking the exposure time and white balance makes it not your picture, it just means I'm not being impressed by your color pallet, but instead your subject and composition.

To me that's the least annoying part of AI at the moment. I'm open to the notion that you can be creative with tools that remove parts of the challenge, you just don't get credit for the challenge.