To be fair to the scientific community, one more collider is probably more valuable to society than the equivalent cost of bombs and military equipment
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Also, we did find the higgs-boson.
Yeah, people really focus on the fact that we don't evidence for very exotic theories and completely ignore the LHC finally got experimental confirmation of the particle that gives mass to other particles within the standard model. (I guess Higgs mechanism technically wasn't part of the standard model prior to experimental confirmation but styll)
the improvement to my life since this discovery is unquantifiable
Oh no, not fundamental science that cannot immediately be capitalised on!
Seriously, why do substantial parts of this forum immediately turn anprim the moment fundamental physics research is concerned?
The scientists should just focus on hard science like media analysis video essays on Rick and Morty
smol brain no understand make angry
This is literally chuds argument for defunding nasa.
"I dont understand it so it's worthless to me"
I was going tonsay are we arguing this is a bad thing?
This seems like a better use of money than 95% of America's budget.
We're not actually against scientific research are we?
As someone with a science background I think that this is exactly the type of project that humanity should engage in. Major public works like housing, healthcare, and food for all are critical to the body of a socialist future, but these big ambitious scientific endeavors are critical to the soul of a socialist future.
But, as someone with a making jokes background, this post is funny as shit and an A++ meme.
If it were up to me hard sciences could only get funding if soft sciences thought they deserved it. I want physicists to have to woo anthropologists.
yeah biden is conjuring 5x this amount from the ether for some emergency bombs spending request. build ten of these things I don't give a fuck. this has nothing to do with people being unhoused and us squandering limited resources on I Fucking Love Science bait, those people being unhoused is a policy decision and we shouldn't wrangle over scraps for good things. honestly even if the particle collider finds nothing at least we will have paid for thousands of brilliant young people to do what they love for $30k/year for a decade, and that's what civilization is all about baby
- No profit motive
- No immediate application to weapons manufacturing
- Cutting edge state-of-the-art science
- Foster international collaboration
- Help us understand the true nature of our universe
- Creates both blue collar jobs (electrician, mechanical engineering) as well as train future experimental physicists
What's the downside again?
Maybe the particles don't want to be found.
Maybe they act like a particle when observed because you're rudely staring at them. Ever think about that science pervert
physicists are annoying, trust me
but I'm a physicist
Sorry
This is funny but also each new collider has done more for physics than any new lane has ever done for traffic.
i don't even care if they don't find anything, I just want them to dig a big ring under switzerland
Don't know why these nerds need to build high speed colliders when I can just point two flashlights towards each other and turn them on.
hell if this one actually has the chance to finally create a black hole and destroys earth im all for it
A stable black hole to destroy the Earth
An instable black hole for the fraction of a second in the middle of europe
Build it on TERF Island. BREXIT MEANS BREXIT, GOD DAMN IT!
Sea levels fixed with one weird trick.
Large Terf Collider
(Un)fortunately, any theoretical black holes created by a particle accelerator will evaporate via Hawking radiation nigh-instantaneously and be functionally undetectable even if they did stick around. It could probably shoot straight through your heart and you'd be completely unaware and healthy afterwards.
This is just a miss so I hope its just a meme. Pretty sure if it was a Chinese project the reaction would be exactly the opposite.
Anyway money is fake and doesn't matter anyway. In the US case It isn't a zero sum game, its not like money from say education is going to the military. The actual fact is they don't want to spend it on those things. The US government can afford an essentially unlimited budget. The reasons things don't get done are entirely ideological period.
At the end of the day, if you had the power to say, reduce the US military budget substantially and actually invest in the public good then you obviously already won the class war and the US is no longer ruled by capitalist class interests. In that case, sure go ahead and bean count, otherwise it really doesn't matter. The alternative is to pretend the US is some liberal/sucdem shit country that must have a balanced budget, "oh noes money going to random stupid science project is money not going to public healthcare". No that is not how it works at all, that is liberal/neoliberal economics shit.
These science projects are important IMO because quite literally nobody else would do them otherwise. Heck I would even say its one of the very few good things the US and co actualy do for humanity.
Equatorial collider or bust.
Dyson sphere you coward
Everyone here is missing the point that this would give every existing particle physicist 15 new 600 - coauthored papers. Think of the CV lines. Cosmic inflation has nothing on this.
EQUATORIAL COLLIDER WHEN?!?!?!
spoiler
on JUPITER
we're just 5 years away from making string theory work bro trust me
edit: actually i probably shouldn't lump particle physicists with string theorists
actually i probably shouldn't lump particle physicists with string theorists
No, definitely do it, it’s hilarious
String theory is literally this meme but instead it's "just ten more years bro. Ten more years and we can prove it" for like the last 30 years
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