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[–] 102 points 4 months ago (2 children)

protestants deserve better from the pope is one hell of a take

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  • [–] 50 points 4 months ago*

    We all deserve better than the pope. If you are an American trans person you are currently the victim of that asshole, he has directly made your life worse. If you are a trans person anywhere he's also made your life worse, but less directly.

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  • [–] 47 points 4 months ago* (4 children)

    I know this place has a weird fondness for the catholic church and a weird hate boner for protestants but posting reaction images from the fucking spanish inquisition is some clown shit.

    That image is of a woman who was sentenced to death, and after refusing to name others to be executed, was instead stuffed with gunpowder and lit on fucking fire.

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  • [–] 27 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Why is it weird to hate Protestants, I thought Christians were just hated in general here?

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  • [–] 31 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    You will find actual apologia for the catholic church on this site.

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  • [–] 36 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    People have a soft spot for liberation theology, despite it never actually accomplishing liberation.

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  • [–] 36 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I will not condemn liberation theology, even if its efficacy may not be the greatest, and even if there are only about 5 of them left. I will point out that whenever there was a conflict involving any kind of progressive social movement within catholicism, the church always sided with the people trying to stamp them out. The catholic church would rather side with genocidal protestants than socialist catholics and it has shown this repeatedly.

    And if we are to look at the legacy of liberation theology and so forth, why not look to the history of black protestant churches in the struggle against white supremacy? Why does one matter but the other does not?

    I firmly believe its cultural cringe and this site being majority from protestant dominated cultures, same as with the opposition to stated atheism.

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  • [–] 34 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I don't think anyone here is going to defend the historical record of the Catholic church. I think it'd be hard to find people who would say the church is a net positive force as it stands today.

    What I see is a combination of people posting some decent takes from the pope on one single issue, and then laughing at the horrible right-wing reactions that result. The focus is on even the Catholic church outflanking almost the entire U.S. political class from the left.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago

    I'm not disagreeing with you here, other than it's not 'cultural cringe', as I despise that particular framework. It is a vestigial contrarian impulse, not born out of any particular historical examination.

    It's 'trolling' but trolling doesn't actually build anything.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago

    Actual apologia or "Papists are better than Prods?" It's a definitely true statement for occupied Ireland where the Indigenous Irish are Catholic while the settler Brits are Protestants. It's mostly true in the US too since both Catholic and Evangelical clergy engage in rampant pedophilia, but the Catholic laity has slightly better politics than the Evangelical laity.

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  • [–] 42 points 4 months ago

    I wonder how many of these types even know why the Protestant reformation took place

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  • [–] 40 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Has the papacy become too political?

    these fucking bozos.

    Has ketchup become too much of a condiment?

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  • [–] 38 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Why does this read like LLM?

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  • [–] 28 points 4 months ago (1 child)

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  • [–] 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

    Protestants should be done with the fucking pope and the catholic church, it's kinda the whole point of being a protestant isn't it? Like if they actually gave a shit about listening to the pope they'd just be Catholics no? Shouldn't they be busy with their "personal relationship with god" and having their own individual interpretations of the bible (which most haven't read beyond cherry-picked out-of-context passages that support their worldview)?

    I have my criticisms of the sect I was raised in but thank fucking god at least they didn't give a flying fuck about the pope

    edit: adding more: Like if you aren't a catholic why does the pope have any special spiritual weight? Either you believe he's Gods Chosen Representative on Earth and therefore you should just be a catholic or you disagree with that and the pope is just a guy in Rome (or sometimes Avignon) with a silly hat and way too much power

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago*

    Like if you aren't a catholic why does the pope have any special spiritual weight?

    He doesn't. Zero. I grew up Protestant (it didn't take, I had good Critical Thinking Skills from the start), and I never heard one word about the Pope. He was the Catholics' guy, not our problem. He had absolutely no influence on my family or anyone at church.

    When a new Pope gets crowned, or whatever, there's no spiritual feeling about it at all, no excitement or hope for the future of the church or humanity, no connection with God, etc., it's just something the Catholics are up to this week.

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    [–] 25 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Liberals famously support Russia in the Ukraine war

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  • [–] 23 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I wonder what the world looks like if Rome never adopted Christianity, surely it can't be worse

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I hate Christians so goddamn much sometimes

    Well.

    Most of the time

    All religions really

    And people who don't wipe down the machines after they use them at the gym

    I HATE THEM MOST OF ALL

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  • [–] 23 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I hate Christianity the most because it's the one with the biggest negative impact on my life

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    I think I'm in a toxic relationship with Christianity. Its teachings and pressures have nearly driven me to death multiple times, but it's been so drilled into me it's hard to let go of. I'm getting there but only slowly and painfully.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    My big issue is American Christians tbh. The rest are a mixed bag, but every yank religious type I've met has been some sort of merchantile baptist

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    We've got some cool Christians on here actually they just keep a low profile. There's even a history of left wing activism in the church here in the US. Nuns and priests used to break in to draft offices to burn registration cards. Jessica Rezniceck is a Catholic worker.

    They don't get a lot of press obviously bc chuds vastly outnumber them but I wouldn't paint with so broad of a brush

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, yeah. And Oskar Schindler is listed as Righteous Among the Nations. The record of the Catholic church is still one of largely genocide and oppression. Those Catholics are still choosing to associate themselves with a deeply evil, regressive organisation.

    I don't hate individual Catholics/members of other churches who nevertheless choose to do good, but those organisations are absolutely indefensible regardless.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago*

    Trump's "Board of Peace" has the two biggest genociders in the world on it, anyone who has even been half paying attention knows it was always who-did-this

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago

    lmao these heretics are hilarious, they really don't give a shit

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    MAGAs get all upset when celebrities and religious figures call out their corruption and hypocrisy, unless the celebrities and religious figures are on their side, then it's violating their free speech.

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