This is what a few hundred years of capitalism does to people
Is anyone else increaseingly worried they'll get taken out by one of these maniacs. America is so unsafe, but everyone acts like its nbd. I hate it. I dream of the day I'm in China and won't have to worry im gonna get blown up, or shot randomly while grocery shopping or something.
By the most alienated idiot with the most stupid "ideology"
One of my biggest fears is being killed by one of these people, but specifically in large part because of the indignity of being killed by one of these types of jackasses.
Misanthropy with Mass Effect characteristics.
The last paragraph really drives home that this person just led a fucked up and depressing existence, and then, on top of that, a close friend dying/being murdered/suiciding in a clearly confusing arrangement.
I dunno. I don't feel overly angry at this person, what they've done is utterly and truly awful and should never have been done. But I can see how an awful life like that could totally warp your view of the world. I'm extremely mad at our shit society that frequently lets people get to this point without helping them or really giving a shit.
Yeah this was very close to my worldview after a life of trauma, until I slowly shifted towards leftism then Marxism. A sort of reification of mental illness and despair into a quasi-ideology.
It takes more than a nudge for these feelings to develop into a belief system and produce results like this. The West expends so much energy eradicating leftist thought from the culture, giving unmaterialist and destructive ideologies like this an evolutionary advantage. Not to mention how many cases like this are likely enabled/influenced/caused by feds.
I'm mostly just sad.
But I can see how an awful life like that could totally warp your view of the world.
yeah i'm not gonna go bomb a fertility clinic but my life has been predominately suffering and it would be a crime to force someone to live many of our lives.
right wing ideology repackaged into faux concern about the suffering of other people. Could have done a Luigi or Rodney L Hinton but noo, why would you do something that benefits society and maybe improves material conditions or sends a message to the rich elite / their cronies.
Post contains ableism, r-slur, discussion and encouragement of self-harm, links to transphobia, anti-furry, anti-autism, probably more toxic content but noped out.
[self-harm, speculation]
Says a close friend had her boyfriend shoot her in the head while sleeping sometime in the last 28 days, links to her social media where she says she’s an aro wlw terf, says he told her he would soon follow if she ever went through with it since he’d never find someone else who would understand him.
He seems to plainly admit to a lot of heinous things, so maybe not a reason to lie about it, but I suspect this may be a murder-suicide.
Also have an awful feeling despite all the awful stuff, carnists are going to focus on “he was a vegan” like they vegetarianjacket hitler to try to justify their unethical behahiour.
Yeah I saw that too. After leaving the mod team of vegan circlejerk that whole community was tied to antinatalism and it upset me to see that. I wrote a statement on it and this for the vegan theory club:
https://vegantheoryclub.org/post/1589146 https://hexbear.net/post/4951471
So that's what happened to VCJ, I pretty much stopped reading it after the antinatalism stuff started popping up all over that sub. Sucks, because I always thought that was one of the only good subs on that shithole site and as sad as it is to admit, the posts on there making fun of carnists and vegetarians helped me go vegan.
Hundreds of people have told me that it helped them go vegan while I modded it from 2018 - 2023 but the increasing scrutiny of the admins was annoying, having my long time account HamidPayaamAbbasi get banned, and it was starting to make me mad having to sign into reddit and approve everything. When all the anarchists stepped down it was left to a few libs who started the antinatalism shit.
My goodbye from reddit post was this
(random bad guy) didn’t eat meat so actually somehow that makes you bad too and im good for eating an animal that was kept in a tiny box since it was a baby to stop its bones from getting hard and keep its meat soft. im not basically perpetuating a holocaust at all.
I thought Hitler was a vegetarian, not fully vegan.
Like if people that is going to use it to attack veganism cares about the difference
He wasn't even vegetarian. He still are meat, just infrequently since it upset his stomach
In the download directory, you should be able to find an mp3 file where I explain, but basically, I'm a promortalist. Efil blaise explains what this is quite well.
We had a thread here about Efilists subreddit just a week or two ago and this happens. Someone took the Inmendham jrpg villian arc seriously
Smelled like fed shit then and it smells like fed shit now. The right has been itching for someone like this to come along and here they are. They also left an audio diary and a webzone explaining their motives in a way that fits exactly with the right's grudges against environmentalists.
The fed shit is putting a magnifying glass on these bullshit reddit philosophies and actively encouraging their spread, because they know someone like this (or lots of someones) will do stuff like this. This isn't a "false flag" or anything, just the natural consequences of the feds steering people away from leftist political thought and into nonsensical right wing violence.
Yeah they don't have to create the groups or do false flags, they can just seize and amplify groups that help them and sway people into action.
Inmendham
oh holy fuck this unlocked some memories
- (specifically of him being a much-derided figure in the "new atheist" youtube circles back when I watched that shit in the late 2000's)
real life person with the philosophy of an over the top supervillain
The Efilists' ideology came about within a year of Gurren Lagann being distributed in the US. I have no evidence of this but I swear it looks like the guy behind Efilism literally just saw the fucking Anti-Spirals and thought "neat, this is definitely a coherent and reasonable ideology, DNA really is the ultimate evil that will destroy everything, we should be the antithesis of all life and progress". Efilism is literally a cartoon villain ideology, and not just in the abstract it's literally one specific, somewhat famous cartoon villain ideology.
You know there's something seriously wrong with capitalist society when a ”philosophy” as nonsensical as efilism is developed.
Whoa, it's like…life spelled backwards, that means we should kill everyone. That's so deep.
I also think this post needs CWs for ableism and self-harm, the last paragraph on that site is so sad
I'm not a psycho, but....
A true nihilist would have just killed himself and been done with it. Instead overdose of liberalism and hyper individualism makes people just not want to live, but also make a show of murdering other people, because the "show" puts them and their ego on the center stage.
All a promortalist is saying is let's make it happen sooner rather than later (and preferably peaceful rather than some disease or accident), to prevent your future suffering, and, more importantly, the suffering your existence will cause to all the other sentient beings.
Wow they killed one person whoo. Suffering is over for all sentient beings! lets go
It's not like you can end all suffering, delete the universe by snapping your fingers.
It's not like you can end all suffering, delete the universe by snapping your fingers.
no they just think life is bad, there's inherent value in the universe. somehow.
AFAIK the reasoning is
Suffering = bad
Joy = good
No suffering = good
No joy = neutral
Therefore, life, which contains suffering and joy, is neutral. But no life, which would avoid suffering entirely, would be good. The inherent value in the universe is the avoidance of suffering.
Anti-Buddhism
Seriously, wouldn't real anti-natalist "praxis" be like dumping a bunch of birth control in the water supply?
if you take anti natalism to its real logical extreme, then you have to actually want the human race to prosper enough to build a giant sun death laser that eradicates all life in the galaxy periodically on auto pilot and then kill your entire species
least brainwormed burger
Really didnt have a anime-brainedpoisoned new-athiest anti-natalist carmakazi bomber on my 2025 bingo card.
But here we are.
First Anime-American suicide bomber
I read this whole thing and the words "despair is typical of those who do not understand the causes of evil" crashed through the roof and destroyed my fish tank.
wow what a cringlord. praise allah he blew his dumb ass up
Dang, I had thoughts like this for a while. Thank the heavens I found some actual sense of purpose in life.
This is what happens when a culture doesn't understand happiness isn't the end goal of life. Consumerism which promotes idea of earning your happiness through constant self-improvement has its logical conclusion in this idea that all which isn't happy or striving for happiness through consumption is wasted. This is functionally same ideology as those social media life coaches selling the hustle grindset.
That's the most reddit thing I've ever seen
How does anarchism always seem to find its way into these bullshit ideologies?
Anarchism has cool branding. If you're already just grabbing ideologies at random to combine, why not go for the one with the coolest logo?
Same reason why everyone wants to be punk imo
My brother is a straight up fascist and one of his first tattoos was the A symbol. I still don't get it.
If anarchism is primarily about the liberation of the individual free from the impositions of others then it just a short step to apply that only to a small group and subjugate the rest.
Lack of theory
i wouldn't say anti-natalism was the primary ideology at work here.
This needs a CW for the ableism buried way deep in the middle of this weird ass manifesto. And many other things actually
Huh I genuinely thought it was an anti-abortion thing (IVF and abortion are obs-gynae and some doctors do both).
chapotraphouse
Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.
No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer
Slop posts go in c/slop. Don't post low-hanging fruit here.