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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

i had to completely cash mine out (it was only 4k) months ago to pay bills and rent

so fuck these people i literally have nothing invested and dont know how'll ill have a roof over my head in 30 days

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wow, the free market deciding your retirement fund was bad the whole time? Who would guess?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It was great at one thing: aligning the interests of the working class in the imperial core with the imperialists' interests.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

It also destroys solidarity. One 401k getting nuked doesn't create a movement, but an entire pension fund for a profession - instant solidarity.

401k is the greatest scam perpetuated on the American worker.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Ultimately any retirement system suffers from these weaknesses. You can have a retirement system based entirely on universal generous state pensions; it won't matter. When the economy takes a hit, the state is less capable of generating revenue.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago

sit-back-and-enjoy Call me when the boomers blow up a government building

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago

Damn, it's almost like trading defined benefit plans for at-risk stock market portfolios to handle retirement WASN'T in normal people's interest.

harold-manic

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

401ks have shrunk so much they’re calling them 301ks now

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Literally just last week my retired dad was talking about how important it is that the economy contracts and that we cut back so we can pay down the debt.

Now he's freaking out because he's losing tons of money.

Rich boomers are by far the dumbest people on the planet

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

pay down the debt.

WHO IS THAT DEBT TO? honk

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

If the economy contracts, the tax revenue falls more than spending falls so debt goes up. Then the the unemployment benefits, food stamps, and stimulus checks go out and the debt goes up more.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

Surely since he's retired his money is in bonds... surely...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Frustratingly my retired parents lost $20k from their retirement account, but they don't care and still support the tariffs.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

“Still love the truck, though.”

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

pays off the debt

Now what? Do they think past success of america was because it wasn't in debt? America's been in debt forever

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

Well see if we stop spending money somehow that means there's more money. So we have to kill the poor of today so we can save the poor of tomorrow. Or something. I don't know I'm not a dunbass

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Debt is literally a useless metric for an imperial global empire like the us. They are the pinkertons that actually bring in the debts of other countries. Like who is going to tell them no?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Get exactly what you want and still cry. Its hard for me to not hate people like this.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

lol

We were overdue anyway. Babe it's been 20 years time for your most efficient system cyclical market collapse

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought we just had one like 5 years ago during Covid.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

i-think-that "As your investment advisor, I'm advising you to not retire anytime soon."

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This is a great indicator of how 401ks are doing

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

People in retirement or about to retire should be seeing less than half that decline if they've used an appropriate target date fund (which most employers default to) or rebalanced manually into bonds. Still not great of course

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Gen X literally hates bonds. Before the pandemic they had the highest risk exposure of any generation before them because they never invest there money correctly.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

If your investments, especially for retirement, are affected by a month over month change in the stock market you are either @[email protected] or you are doing it incredibly wrong

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Live by the equities die by the equities (climate change and economic catastrophe)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The planet will not exist by the time I'm retirement age

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

its almost like its a scheme to steal your fucking money and prop up a rich people's stock market

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

The GOP openly spat on their most loyal voter base but somehow Democrats will completely fail to capitalize on their self-own.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

This is why re-balancing your portfolio as you age is important and why target date funds are great for like 95% of people. The risk of events like this happening is not worth the gains of full sending into the market

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Small if true

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“…and here’s why that’s a good thing!” smuglord

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

this is one of the many reasons they're better than pensions

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Is there anything I can do? Not that I'm retiring anytime soon. I probably can't take out the money but should I stop contributing to mine or something?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago

Keep doing what you're doing. If you're not retiring soon this has pretty much no impact on you and is in fact somewhat helpful to allow you to get in at a lower cost basis

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

No, unironically buy the dip.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you have a safety net and no high interest debt keep contributing and hold your positions.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Be like me and have a job too shitty to have a 401k

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

If you’re younger, then this is somewhat beneficial. Now is the “low” in “buy low, sell high”.

Despite all the drama, historically the market’s going to bounce back before you know it.

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