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Sorry, my solidarity is reserved for states who DON'T support the genocide in Gaza

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[-] Kaputnik@hexbear.net 88 points 1 year ago

Just remember in any war of US imperialism the bourgeoisie of the invaded country suffers the least. The people who will suffer the most are the indigenous people of Canada and Greenland who will have their treaties annulled along with the poor and working class who rely on the basic social services Canada offers that the US does not.

Canada as a state sucks and the people in charge would deserve it, but they will not suffer, everyone else will.

[-] BabyTurtles@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately this is correct, the bourgeoisie will likely privately support such an invasion, if they think that they personally benefit.

Whoops America invaded and annulled your protects, that's terrible too bad there's nothing I can do about it.

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[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Particularly because the main things of interest to the US in Canada are resources and access to the North, both areas where indigenous people punch above their weight in Canada's political economy.

[-] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 70 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

spoiler(More seriously, revolutionary defeatism is probably the correct stance along side solidarity with any indigenous and socialist resistance groups)

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

extremely critical support while holding my nose.

because if Satan himself would arrive and attack the USA I would support him.

[-] RiotDoll@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

i would need to know what Satan himself is about tbqh but i wouldn't rule this out either.

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[-] Hexamerous@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

NATO infighting, I say kill-em-all

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

I'd play defense for the greenlanders generally speaking. Mostly because they don't deserve to be the proverbial sock with a knot tied in it being tugged on in a war between the Danes and the yanks

[-] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

Indigenous Greenlanders are already an absurdly victimised and blighted community now - poverty, racism, exploitation, corporate abuse, and terrible rates of SA - never mind being in the middle of one of the US' imperialist power struggles.

[-] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

True, imagine fighting and dying but the purpose was to protect Alberta. YIKES THERE BUD!

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

Me watching news of the 82nd Airborne Division parachuting in the fields outside Calgary party-parrot-popcorn

[-] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago
[-] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

we really don't think this will happen right? like clearly being used by trump to just distract from the existing shitty material conditions in the US

[-] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The question is whether this is one of those moments like when trump was first elected in 2016.

Everyone thought "ok yeah it COULD happen, but things would have to get pretty bad for THAT domino to fall", and then it happened and everyone who wanted to could look back and see that the domino pieces had in fact already fallen, things HAD gotten that bad, and now everyone can say "oh it was obvious" when at the time it was more difficult.

Same with russia invading ukraine, there were a lot of reasons to believe it wouldn't happen because it seemed like a dumb move, but at the same time there were people (of the marxist variety) going "ok but this is actually a huge number of troops to be stationing near the border and pulling them back would incurr a political cost, and also putin has some reasons to believe he has to do this soon".

So with trumps contemporary outrageous tweets, which are a step above his former outrageous tweets, like, that "invading mexico/canada/greenland" domino SEEMS to me like it's way far off, and I'm not actually seeing any intelligent analysis on why trump or those around him actually would do this.

So I'm inclined to think it's bullshit and we're just falling for his shtick like liberals always do

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

I don't know, this could be one of those bizarre moments in history where Trump is actually pushing on an unlocked door and one year from now theres US National Guard in Calgary and everyone's like "This is Fine" this-is-fine

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[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

No, absolutely, the US turning its imperialism inwards, towards its vassal states, would be funny as fuck.

Play defense for canada/denmark? i might whip out a trucker hat with a US flag on it lmao

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

If someone woke up from a 7 month coma today, I'm telling them this discourse is the result of the Kendrick v Drake beef.

[-] KoboldKomrade@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

It'd be really funny if the Canadians/Danes used the 2nd amendment more effectively against the American regime then Americans do though.

It'd never happen because Canadians are even more domesticated then us Americans (And the Danes/Greenland are too small and distant). Just imagining a Quebecois "Lone Moose" getting some politician and everyone freaking out when they realize these FRENCH people are now AMERICANS?? would be peak.

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[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 1 year ago

I think it wont actually be a cool enough timeline for there to be a war between the NATOs. More likely they just sign some treaty making a North American Union and become defacto territories without a fight while maintaining some autonomy.

If the Amerikkkan empire really start cannibalizing itself tho i will laugh my ass off.

[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

I know It is stupid but I am kidna down for liberal infighting

[-] drinkinglakewater@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

Y'all say this now, but we'll see who's laughing when the Ontario Liberation Front formally establishes the People's Republic of Toronto

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[-] sempersigh@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

I won’t need to anyways once the marines land in Nova Scotia we’re going to find out just how “brave” the us marines really are when the bottle kids gun for them

[-] prole@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Kids? That's the marines specialty

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[-] 9to5@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

As others said before it is HIGHLY unlikely to happen....but if the US seriously would invade Canada I would at the very least give critical support to Canada. It would be another mark against the US on the Worldstage if the US invaded or even peacefully annexed one of its closest allies. It would make even NAFO dogs uneasy if that happened. Now this is not me saying it would be good if it happened...but if it happened I feel like it could increase the instability of the Western block by a lot.

capybara-fancy My 2cents as an Armchair historian

[-] NewOldGuard@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

I’d cross the border and start the québécois liberation front. take advantage of the instability and direct that independent sentiment towards some revolutionary peoples’ war

[-] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Well I for one look forward to my future being the kneeling guy in the Fallout intro

[-] transnationalmaoist@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"I'm an anti-imperialist socialist! Oh except for when the target of imperialism is a country I don't like"

For fucks sake is this the state of western leftist discourse now? Honestly it's not too far from the "I want to support Gaza, but the Moooozlims there are anti-LGBT so yeah...." shit that liberals say.

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[-] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Greenland should be an independent country for Inuit people. Mayos out

[-] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

The parable of the sower has a fascist US president declare war on Canada

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

Greenland, on its own, however, long live!

[-] SwitchyandWitchy@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

The US successfully annexing more land would be very bad even if those countries themselves are also bad. The US is at or near the height of its geopolitical power and is clearly in a new cold war with China. So I guess I don't disagree, I'm not gonna play defense for Canada or Denmark, but we should play defense for AES countries and the struggle for the global working class.

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