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My post got banned for being "wrecker behaviour". I don't know the community here, I joined because people said Hexbear is trans friendly, can someone explain the terminology? Google has other people using the word but nobody explaining it

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

A wrecker is someone coming here to purposefully stir shit or post reactionary garbage under the guise of good faith, or just straight up bigots or trolls.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In a more accurate sense, a wrecker means someone who turns people against each other, needlessly generates rifts, agitates in an internal direction, or thrives off internal conflict.

On this site mods extend the use of it to mean anyone who makes bad-faith arguments.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You've been on a roll today. Aside from that post, you've had comments removed for being questionable as well, because they looked like reactionary caricatures of serious issues, in order to bait people and stir shit. That's what a wrecker does. On top of that, you had a second account banned for using an inappropriate name, which you asked about in another post on your @lemm.ee account. I thought you were serious when you said you were looking for a trans friendly space after you told us you left lemmy.blahaj.zone, but at this stage you're just fucking around.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

what username did it use

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well obviously I was looking for a trans friendly AND disabled friendly space. Do I have to list every minority I am whenever I say I don't like hate speech?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look further in the mod log. You've been posting whack shit for a while and it's piqueing interest

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've had this account for 2 hours and I've used the site for a day. I just want to know the meaning of a word.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, a few hours ago two of my comments describing transphobic experiences were removed. What's a wrecker?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’ll bite:

A wrecker is a person who stirs shit in a community in a negative manner. This can be intentional or unintentional, but it doesn’t matter, the result is the same. Wreckers “wreck” a community.

In a way, it’s similar to calling someone a “fed,” but the implications are a bit different. Whereas a fed is either an employee of a nation-state intelligence agency or a paid informant, wreckers could be doing fed shit for free, and even unintentionally.

There is a long and storied history of wreckers destroying left wing groups and movements. I am personally aware of two local left wing groups that were dismantled by a very small number of wreckers, and it has taken us years of hard work to rebuild them from the ground up when the wreckers could have left if they were honest or been kicked out and the work continued. Now, these people may have just been assholes, but the effect was the same: a suppression of left wing activism in my local community and wins for capital.

People often misappropriate Marxist, anarchist, or even therapeutic terminology and language in a way that is intellectually dishonest and results in infighting that pushes activists and potential activists away or results in the dissolution of the group entirely. Whether this is intentional or not is unimportant: the result wrecks movements and is wrecker behavior.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you expect me to see in the mirror? A pretty face? Unless you expect me to believe a wrecker is an attractive person I'd appreciate some clarity or no answer at all

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What do you think a wrecker is? Like if you had to use your imagination.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Funniest thread of the week lmfao

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Someone who pretends to be part of a community (in this case, communists) only to intentionally cause drama, infighting, etc.

It can be cops, it can be fascists, it can be random bored libs, etc.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

One who wrecks

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A wrecker is someone who wrecks. Especially when it comes to new accounts, we tend to err on the side of caution. I don't really understand what you want?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A definition. So you're saying someone who wrecks the patriarchy and capitalism like me is a wrecker? Cool

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone who makes problems. Sows division. Starts disputes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ah. So, suppose we lived in a sexist society where oppression of women was normal, and not seen as a problem, as divisive, or as a dispute by most people. In this hypothetical society, if a woman were to say "misogyny is bad", and to be perceived as sowing division and starting disputes, then would she be considered a wrecker?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Marxism is about uniting the forces of change, and keeping them united and strong so that they can fight and win a revolution. Read Mao's Little Red Book.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, you don't want to unite all of the forces of change. Some of the forces of change are nazis. Some forces of change should be left out of the revolution

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nazis are reactionary not revolutionary.

Compromising with the forces of reaction = liberalism

Disintegrating the forces of revolution = wrecking

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

I would encourage you to stop posting for a bit and just browse the site for a few days to see how folks generally engage with each other here. In doing so I think you'll come to your own understanding of what wrecking is. Hexbear is a very friendly space but you do have to really try to understand the community and the space to understand how that friendliness manifests. It's okay if you do that inspection and realize Hexbear isn't for you.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago