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An executive in an American military contractor that is providing data analytics to the IDF joking about war crimes. This attack could not have been planned and executed so successfully without Palantir's services and they are gleefully celebrating their involvement without explicitly saying so.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 months ago (3 children)

they love to brag about it

Claiming that his products “changed the course of history by stopping terror attacks,” Mr. Karp said that Palantir had also “protected our men and women on the battlefield” and “taken the lives of our enemies, and I don’t think that’s something to be ashamed of.”

[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 months ago (8 children)

A few paragraphs later he says he loves doing terrorism

“I actually am a progressive,” he said. “I want less war. You only stop war by having the best technology and by scaring the bejabers — I’m trying to be nice here — out of our adversaries. If they are not scared, they don’t wake up scared, they don’t go to bed scared, they don’t fear that the wrath of America will come down on them, they will attack us. They will attack us everywhere.”

[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 months ago

Pretty much nobody on earth is afraid of me, yet I almost never get attacked. Curious.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 months ago

You know... Scare them. I wonder if there's another verb we could use for heavily scaring another person. Terrorize maybe?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Imagine somebody saying the same things but for queer people. The outrage from all sides would be immense

They will attack us everywhere.

A really easy way to not be attacked everywhere is to stop being everywhere. Stop invading countries, stop occupying them for decades, stop killing their citizens

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If they are not scared, they don’t wake up scared, they don’t go to bed scared, they don’t fear that the wrath of America will come down on them, they will attack us

Least terrorist methods and goals.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This fucking ghoul right here is IMO the perfect example of the west being run by the failsons and faildaughters of empire.

The old school evil fuckers like Kissenger never believed ridiculous shit like this. They knew the entire point of endless overseas conflicts is to create more conflicts and thus more profit.

This goober on the other hand seems to genuinely believe the war on terror propaganda. Bro actually thinks the empire exists out of charity for the rest of the world, and not just endless death in the pursuit of always falling profits.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They're the otaku of the military-industrial complex. They have vanishingly few experiences with whatever came before them and are just going through the motions without prior contextual understanding. They don't know where the ideology came from so they just gobble up the pablum without knowing what the pablum came from or whether they're actually supposed to believe it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It literally sounds like what the villain of a story based in the British empire (or any evil empire for that matter) would say.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

“I actually am a progressive,”

i-am-adolf-hitler

"If they are not scared, they don’t wake up scared, they don’t go to bed scared, they don’t fear that the wrath of America will come down on them, they will attack us. They will attack us everywhere.”

Deranged and fascistic thought process

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Princess Leia Organa : Governor Tarkin! I should have expected to find you holding Vader's leash. I recognized your foul stench when I was brought on board.

Grand Moff Tarkin : Charming to the last. You don't know how hard I found it, signing the order to terminate your life.

Princess Leia Organa : I'm surprised that you had the courage to take the responsibility yourself.

Grand Moff Tarkin : Princess Leia, before your execution, I would like you to be my guest at a ceremony that'll make this battle station operational. No star system will dare oppose the Emperor now.

Princess Leia Organa : The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.

Grand Moff Tarkin : Not after we demonstrate the power of this station. In a way, you have determined the choice of the planet that'll be destroyed first. Since you are reluctant to provide us with the location of the Rebel base, I have chosen to test this station's destructive power on your home planet of Alderaan.

Princess Leia Organa : No! Alderaan is peaceful! We have no weapons, you can't possibly...

Grand Moff Tarkin : [impatiently] You would prefer another target, a military target? Then name the system! I grow tired of asking this so it will be the last time: Where is the rebel base?

Princess Leia Organa : ...Dantooine. They're on Dantooine.

Grand Moff Tarkin : There. You see, Lord Vader, she can be reasonable. Continue with the operation; you may fire when ready.

Princess Leia Organa : WHAT?

Grand Moff Tarkin : You're far too trusting. Dantooine is too remote to make an effective demonstration - but don't worry; we will deal with your rebel friends soon enough.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

me when i'm on the right side of history

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago

taken the lives of our enemies

weird to have beef with a random 9 year old girl halfway across the world, but ok

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago

Karp is always bragging about his refusal to work with "enemies of the West", as if China is begging to give up their data to a CIA asset.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 months ago (3 children)

You know I realize in the grand scheme of things this is kind of a weird/sad thing to fixate on but I can't get it out of my head that in like 20-30 years hollywood is gonna do some "based on a true story" film about this operation that plays out like an Ocean's style heist movie or something.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Shitholewood made that Israeli propaganda movie about follow up to 1972 Munich olympics event in 2005 (I think?) So 100% there will be some form of media over this in future.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

The Steven Spielberg one?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

If Burgerland continues to exist in a recognizable form in 20+ years, yeah, I think it'll be a "what if these bloodthirsty monsters are actually quirky and quippy?" treatment.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

could even be sooner, black hawk down came out about 8 years after the battle it was based on

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Tolkien doin cartwheels in his grave

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

did these ghoul companies like Palantir and Anduril have to license the name from the Tolkien estate? if they did I wonder how cheap it was to tarnish all his works with this reprehensible bullshit, and if it was a one-time fee or an ongoing annual payment. if they didn't haha IP law for thee but not for me

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

did these ghoul companies like Palantir and Anduril have to license the name from the Tolkien estate?

doubt

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago

The fucking arrogance...really disgusting

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

how did the explosives get in to the specific devices owned by the hezbollah? Sent in for maintenance? Intercepted during shipping? I'm trying to understand all the players and prep time that would need to be involved for an attack like this to work

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think they targeted Hezbollah specifically, it's just that pagers are niche enough that they could rely on probability to get some Hezbollah members. Turns out plenty of civilians like doctors and emergency workers use pagers too, so to the IOF it does double duty as terrorism.

I can only speculate but probably intercepted during shipping, or if the whole Hungarian shell company thing is true maybe planted there.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It was over 3000 pagers that exploded. This article tries to explain it.

The evidence so far suggests that Hezbollah acquired the pagers around February when the group’s leader, Hassan Nasrallah, ordered members to stop using cellphones because they could be easily intercepted and monitored by Israeli intelligence.

In this case, Magnier said, the pagers procured by Hezbollah were with a third party and they sat at a port for three months, awaiting clearances, before they were finally moved to the Lebanese group.

Hezbollah suspects that it was during those three months that Israel managed to plant explosives in the devices, the military analyst said.

A Lebanese security source and another source told the Reuters news agency that the Mossad, Israel’s spy agency, planted explosives in 5,000 pagers that Hezbollah had ordered months before the explosions. The sources said a code was simultaneously sent to 3,000 of the pagers, triggering the explosions.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/18/how-did-hezbollah-get-the-pagers-that-exploded-in-lebanon

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Thanks for the informative linky

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago

I guess if you're gonna name your company after the bad guy's tools, you might as well lean into the supervillain thing.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Good god that guy and those replies. My thoughts are truly: illegal-to-say

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

I saw the CEO’s appearance on Real Time with Bill Maher which aired Friday. It’s actually worth watching because he says stuff out-loud and he’s a true believer. His ideology such as it is is a lot like Sam Harris but he’s more mask off and more animated and enthusiastic.

He says the future of modern warfare will be peer to peer and drone to drone. “You’re going to be using software to control small instruments and there’s going to be hundreds of thousands of them.” He mentions fighting China and Russia specifically.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

it's the fucking CIA again!!! Palantir equals CIA

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

very cool that this company is now being given total control of UK healthcare data