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submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

Birth rates have dropped 20% since 2007. I don't think we ever came back from the '08 crash. It's just been smoke and mirrors.

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[-] [email protected] 65 points 10 months ago

I decided not to have kids after listening to literally everyone who had kids describe their experiences and not assuming they were weak, stupid or lying.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago

even if my own experiences as a child didn't put me off forcing someone else to exist, hearing parents talk makes it completely baffling why anyone with a choice would choose to do that to themselves.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

You literally cannot imagine the doses of oxytocin and dopamine when your kid looks you in the eyes and smiles for the first time. All the wonderful moments are like a goddamn fix.

It’s literally the only reason (most) parents don’t murder their kids when they’re being shitty little assholes.

But seriously, you simply don’t realize how heady a hit of emotional bonding-feel good cocktail it is until it happens to you.

And this is coming from someone who spent half the 90s candy flipping.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

I literally never hear anything good about it.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

It's utterly exhausting and absolutely not something anyone should do without a support network, but it's also the single most rewarding experience in my life. Nothing comes close. Making my child laugh for the first time was better than any drug I've ever done. But unless you're in a good place mentally, socially, financially, don't.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

The brain chemicals hit so good

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Oh, I don't know. I love having kids. It can be a lot, but nothing really touches the feeling of when you come home from work and they all rush to see you. I could see it not being for everyone, though.

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[-] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago

There are valid reasons in the comments here, but a lot of people I talk to genuinely are interested in being parents, but don't have the funds to even provide for themselves. It's entirely about the money. Give people money and they will have kids. It isn't hard.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago

Elon Musk: NO WAGES JUST BABIES

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[-] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago

Oh you want babies? Well I want trains.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

I propose a prisoner exchange.

[-] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago

People don't talk enough about how having children is a privilege that the rich enjoy. Yes, you can have kids and be poor (and many do, no hate to our parent comrades), but it costs so much money to have children and if you do it whilst being poor you have to sacrifice so much that would be absolutely nothing to a rich family.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

Anyone else remember how "having kids you can't afford" was apparently the root of all social ills for several decades?

[-] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

I remember that all over the TV.

"Oh you can't afford it" " oh you don't have time between your 2 jobs" "Oh you don't have a a big enough space" " then don't have kids"x3 So all of us growing said yeah legit Now they all surprise pikachu face.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

And then rich parents do shit like end pandemic protections because they're sick of their kids being at home all the time

[-] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Seeing a family with three kids is such an insane flex

[-] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago

good, fewer first worlders is probably the best thing possible for the climate

[-] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Yep, that's my reasoning. Sure, the idea of an individual carbon footprint is almost entirely propaganda to keep people from executing fossil fuel executives in the streets, but increasing your emissions by ~50% per kid seems like a big enough difference to matter.

That and not wanting to bring a child into a country that is on a perpetual slope towards ever-greater fascism.

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[-] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

I want kids. Badly. However, I'm sterile. The state itself will also never let me adopt children. On top of that, my family could never afford it. Like, what the fuck else do you want from me, Elon?

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

Besides being gay myself, I saw what was coming growing up and thought it would be especially cruel to raise someone in a doomed world and decreasing quality of life. I never had any desire of have kids.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I decided against having children because of the fear of bringing more children into a world that's progressively growing more unstable due to climate change.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

This. It's becoming more and more impossible to live a decent life even within the imperial core and nothing points to that changing anytime ever, so having children seems like a pretty damn selfish and/or idiotic idea.

It's a shame too, because I like children and really think there should be more inter-generational contact between people in different stages of their lives.

Also even if society wasn't falling off a fucking cliff within the next fifty years, I wouldn't really want to have children in a fortnite/YouTube kids/tiktok world either. Just fully blasting developing brains with skinner boxes and max engagement at all times isn't fucking cool or good. Just let them watch sesame Street.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

Am childless, having a vasectomy in 5 days im-doing-my-part

[-] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

Honestly I’ve watched my brother and his wife raise a kid for 7 years and another for 2, and it’s stressed them the absolute fuck out. Totally changed them. I also only know only maybe 3 or 4 people who have a good relationship with their parents. I have a bad one with my own mom. Just seems like you could put in all this effort, stress yourself out every single day for a long time, eliminate any personal time for yourself, have no guarantee that they won’t rely on you for even longer (like my alcoholic sister at 34 still living with my mom), they will probably turn out politically opposite to you (so in my case a liberal or fascist), and not to mention how expensive it would be + by the time they’re old enough to have their own lives, the world will be even more on fire and unlivable. I just do not see the upside

[-] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

The children must be born. The children yearn for the minecraft

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

I don't think we ever came back from the '08 crash.

Job prospects have been about the same since the 08 crash: no one is hiring.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

I wouldn't want kids in this economy either.

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