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[–] [email protected] 74 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is precisely why the U.S. didn't want them to have long range missiles

So they're going to force an escalation with a small fleet of 9/11'ers instead

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

civilian planes are now military targets

great job!

[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Cessna planes were already being extensively used as military reconnaissance planes so this hasn't really changed anything in that regard.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Okay, yeah, respect where it's due, the field expedient cruise missile does work.

How much does a tomahawk missile cost? I think cessnas run like 200k or 400k

[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Tomahawks tend to fly a bit faster and have a more focused payload.

Doing a Flying Timothy McVeigh certainly creates a large explosion. I have to question whether this strike had a meaningful impact on drone production, any more than McVeigh's strike had a meaningful impact on the FBI's ability to operate in the US Southwest. A ballistic missile would have had the same penetration and done far more damage.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

TIL that it was an FBI building.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago

Federal building generally. It had a bunch of offices, including the DEA and the ATF. The latter is what he was (mostly) targeting, since it was (mostly) in response to Ruby Ridge and Waco.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

it hit a residential annex, so production is not slowed whatsoever

[–] [email protected] 60 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure this won't prompt another massive wave of missile strikes all over Ukraine in retaliation zelensky-pain

[–] [email protected] 52 points 7 months ago

This feels like reading about a boxing match, in which every hit by Thomas Hearns is covered breathlessly, while a blizzard of blows by Sugar Ray Leonard go utterly unremarked upon.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago

Can I just go on record as to say that your username is 10/10 in my book?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Literally the plot of multiple PKD books. Usually with humanity staying below ground; safe from a non-existant war.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago

Plan A: The Americans sell us and subsidize a fleet of F-16s, fully equipped with state of the art target-lock AMRAAMS.

Plan B: Charlie’s dad works a lot and probably won’t notice his weekender is missing for quite a while. Load her up, boys!

[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Is a Cessna full of dynamite a technical?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It depends on which alignment chart you're following. Some of the more unhinged technical enthusiasts consider any weaponized vehicle a technical, which I guess would make 9/11 a technical inside job. For the purists sickomogus, a technical is limited solely to light pickup trucks fitted with a heavy gun in the flatbed. If you want to get technical about technicals, I think limiting it solely to ground vehicles is technically the correct technical definition. Technical.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago

Shit, we should tell them there's Russians working at Raytheon.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is there evidence of the Cessna being remote controlled? I skimmed the article but I was tilted from the use of "kamakazi'd" in the headline.

~More~ ~like~ ~kamakazIED~ ~imirite~

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'm sorry, it seems you dropped this...

spoilerkelly

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

cool terrorists take notes, it's kind of amazing that worked & wasn't intercepted

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

In fairness cessnas have a...reputation for effectively penetrating Russian airspace.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Bit idea: modern day equivalent of Japan's Kamikaze unity staffed entirely by dentists and lawyers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Dentists are kinda ok, even if everyone hate them, we should just forbade any private practice for them. And dentist gulags, they come out after getting 100 patients vouching for them.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (6 children)

There's something poetic about a drone factory getting drone struck.

I wonder if that will factor into the logistics of their production.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Putin harden your heart and increase your attacks

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (9 children)

Or don't. Cessnas are reasonably easy to target and shoot down, from a missile defense perspective. If this is all the Ukrainians have left, just buy some Iron Dome tech from Israel and maybe take a unilateral step towards ending this nightmare.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I thought Israel was now actively favoring and aiding Ukraine

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

That's news to me.

They might be playing both ends.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (15 children)

Finally, a Wunderwaffe that works. zelensky-navi

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (3 children)

A WEAPON TO SURPASS METAL GEAR

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Honestly kind of impressed slash glad that they picked a military target and didn't just 9/11 a random office building.

in 1987, a West German teenager flew a Cessna 172 all the way to Moscow and landed in in Red Square

huh, TIL.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Maybe this will turn the tide of the war.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

they didn't even hit production, just a residential annex of the facility.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it will be the residual annex that turns the tide of the war?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

yes the one office assistant who got his legs destroyed from the attack was what was holding Putler's war machine together

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The less support the US gives Ukraine, the more respect I give.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Funny, but I see Ukraine is at the "what about wolfpacks!? We can collapse their economy and logistics chains!" Stage of denial about military prospects.

The fact of the matter is that it is relatively easy to alter production for resiliency and push your construction sector to rapidly rebuild factories. The one exception to this is ships, and even that doesn't work, as we saw with the Nazi blockade of the UK in 1940.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago
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