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I never got into it and I feel like I'm missing a huge social part of my life. I've tried alcohol and it just tastes bad. Maybe if I had enough to get inebriated I'd feel different, but so far nothing about the experience of drinking has been good. Also I grew up around Baptists who don't have drinking in the culture, so maybe that's part of it? My parents never had alcohol in the house and there was never beer/wine at family gatherings. I never even saw a full glass of beer in person until I was like 23.

Bars are too loud and there's too much expectation to drink, parties have the same problem, drinking at home alone sounds sad. I go to concerts and I'm the only person without a huge glass of beer. People hand me drinks and I'm like "nah" and they get mega confused.

What do I do

Is this the opposite of a problem?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Firing at the hip here - I would say it's the opposite of a problem, yeah. The reason I say that tho, is I'm the sort of person that booze will completely take over. I stay away from it entirely now as well.

Have some complicated thoughts on drinking. Going to rehab was good for me tho. SOMETIMES I miss it, but usually it doesn't bother me at all.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

rehab

I'm really sorry you had to go through that since you're the sweetest person and you don't deserve any second of struggle like that

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

meow-hug

It was a state run facility, so extra horror stories.

Thanks for the kind words! At any rate, seems like you're doing well without drinking, so keep it up!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

Recovering alcoholic here: You're not missing much.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Alcohol can absolutely taste good. However, it takes time to figure out what you like and the good stuff is often quite expensive or takes skill to mix (cocktails). If you don't want to spend time and money figuring out what you like to drink that's totally fine. I might have one drink every three months these days. A lot of people need alcohol as a social lubricant to get over their anxieties and talk to people at parties. If you don't then that's cool too! To paper over awkwardness it's good to stand around with a beverage in your hand anyway, like a fizzy water.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

social lubricant

The one time I think I was actually intoxicated I just started crying at people and saying open personal stuff about my family abusing me, stuff I wouldn't normally say but normally I don't say anything to anyone at parties. It wasn't a good time. I don't think I'm the fun sort of drunk.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

You can realize pleasant effects of alcohol without being drunk. I haven't been proper drunk in probably a decade now. Most people past 30 at social gatherings just have 1-2 drinks. It's really only college-age people that have this myopic focus on drinking to get drunk.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

Yeah it sucks, it's literally poison, has zero benefits and you have to continuously keep consuming it cause your body doesn't want it and immediately starts to filter it out

I certainly prefer weed and I pretty much never drink anymore cause of it 🤷🏿‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Most everyone doesn't like the taste of alcohol at first, it's an acquired taste. You just have to be peer pressured into drinking beer you hate like 25 times and then it just clicks, and suddenly it's good.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I never liked the taste of beer and similar drinks, but I absolutely loved the taste of hard liquor from the first time I had some. Brandy, whiskey, cocktails, all of that. Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on how you look at it, I can't drink anymore due to medications so I miss it a bit. But on the positive side, it's good for my health.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I seem to be in the minority here but I absolute LOVE drinking. Everything from the taste (beer is my preferred drink), to the atmosphere in bars/clubs, to, of course, being drunk. I'm not a heavy drinker, I have no family history of alcoholism, and I rarely get properly drunk, so I'm not really concerned about addiction or any adverse health effects.

To me it's just a great way to relax with friends, and a way to reduce my self-consciousness so I can more fully enjoy dancing and hanging out with total strangers.

IMO, it's much better than weed for the sole reason that weed (for me) makes it impossible to hold a conversation with someone because I either drift off in the middle of a thought or I become so lazy I have 0 interest in doing anything but sitting blank-minded on a couch.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

I love drinking too, it’s just easier to talk to people about dumb things if you’ve all had a glass. It’s not essential though, just fun

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

You are much better off never getting into it. I had a father and grandfather that were abusive, sadistic alcoholics, I have an alcoholic brother in law that pisses away 300 dollars a week at bars. it destroys families and lives.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I hate drinking and people who drink in the same vein I despise people who smoke [mostly people who smoke shitty tobacco] indoors or in communal public spaces. It's also a huge turn off for me for any romantic partner/s.o.

rant about drinking

I never even saw a full glass of beer in person until I was like 23.

The first drunk person I interacted with was my Dad who was yelling random shit to my mom so yeah my opinion of people who drink isn't very high. It takes a huge part of me not to be a complete asshole to those who do. I went to a bar for the first time recently and it was a shitty experience where my peers kept doing expensive shots and dancing to extremely loud music that you couldn't even talk over.

Bars are a horrible social space and further proof of capitalism's ability to eradicate alternative healthier spaces and have workers drink themselves to death the same way smoking was ubiquitous (at least in America) until corpos couldn't hide the lung disease aspect of it.

At least I live in the US of A and not in the also shitty global north nations of Japan and South Korea where drinking is worshiped as ritual. So I can count myself lucky.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Ear bleeding music and drunk people are not. kitty-birthday-sad

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I hate being addicted to it for sure

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just what I was going to say. I don't like liquor that much in my logical mind, but am still an alcoholic

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It sucks because its the only way to numb yourself to hellworld, then it just creates another hellworld. Never thought I'd be that guy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I'm a person just like you, but I've got better things to do!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

As a teen lots of good friends started drinking regular. Over time they changed their personality and behaviour, hobbies im bad ways. We lost contact and somehow couldn't connect again. Their lifes were too focused on taking drungs and don't missing out on life, yolo.

Later, I found new friends, the nerd faction and connected easily. 7 Years later and we see each other regularly during the year.

I researched the topic and found out that drinking during teen and young adult hood can change the psychologic structure of your brain and theirfore I hesitated each time someone offered me a drink, i stayed by my alcoholoc free beer and most of the time didn't feal preasured into drinking alcohol. I have enough problems and don't want to be addicted to anything. Jogging and swimming is far better in relaxing my brain after the normal stress during the week.

For me, the party, dancing, talking about a shared topic, singing(karaoke) is the main part of the party atmosphere. If the main goal of the event is to get drunk and do shit, it's not interesting to me because I get bored. Also, I'm a bit introvert but if I'm around my friends, I get a lot more active and don't need the alcohol to socialize with new people. I would never visit a party where I know nobody, there should be at least a hobby or topic that I can relate to.

edit: My tl;dr is, don't underestimate the psychological consequences of a few drinks and inform yourself on these. You should never feel pressured into drinking!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

I hate drinking too. Unfortunately, that's never stopped me.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Always hated it myself, basically a teetotaller and haven't drank anything in literally years. It tastes bad, and it always seemed like the amount of booze you needed to drink would quickly outpace the capacity of my stomach, making for a poor experience.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My girlfriend hates the taste of alcohol aswell. She enjoys being drunk but the process of getting there sucks ass. Recently she tried jello shots and those seem to be easier to get down

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I got a hangover just reading this

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I dont think she has ever had enough to experience a hangover lmao. I do be hating jello shots tho

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've tried alcohol and it just tastes bad

Yes that's the point I think, but you get used to it

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

but you ~~get used to it~~

brainwash yourself

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

I come from a family of alcoholics so I've tended to avoid it too. I occasionally have a drink here and there if I go out because of peer pressure, but I don't really care for loud bars or getting hungover. My parents similarly never had alcohol in the house very often, just some beers once in a while during the summer months.

Can't say I've really enjoyed any of the drinks I've had either. I don't think there's anything wrong with not drinking.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

A part of my upbringing was influenced by hearing my maternal grandfather shout back-and-forth at his new spouse he got with after my grandmother passed away. Every night I spent at his house was like this. They got drunk so damn frequently. My father who also treated me terribly had a major problem with alcoholism. His grandfather (or my great grandfather) literally died to alcohol poisoning.

As you can see, alcohol isn't a pretty thing for me. I'm repulsed by it, and I don't go to bars because I know the environment's gonna be terribly awkward. One time I went to an LGBTQ-themed night club, and I couldn't even order a Shirley Temple from the bartender without feeling awkward. Obviously, I agree with @[email protected]'s point about socializing. I know you don't have to drink in those kinds of settings, but socially speaking, it's still very uncomfortable to go there if you are non-alcoholic.

I now live a straight edge lifestyle, and I prefer socializing at cafés and everything because the only "drugs" I consume are caffeine and the prescription meds I take every day. For me to say I "hate" drinking (as strong as that word is) seems like an understatement at this point. Alcohol itself is something I can't cease to see as a poison, and the culture around it isn't any better.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

Shit man we don't drink because it tastes good we drink because that's how you get drunk. If they invented a way to do it with a pill or nasal spray or a dermal patch I'd be game (boofing is a hard pass tho). Straight alcohol tastes like ass especially beer that's why I mostly drink sweet wines like moscato or a cocktail with lots of mixer.

I am extremely anxious, insecure, inhibited, self conscious and antisocial so I basically can't exist in a social situation unless I get at least a little tipsy. I consider it a necessity for socializing. If you don't have that problem then no reason to force yourself to drink. Lots of people don't drink. I also don't know any violent alcoholics and I don't get hangovers so I don't have a lot of the negative associations with drinking that many people have.

And there's a huge leap between bar hopping and drinking alone in your room. You can have a romantic evening sharing a bottle of wine with your partner, you can have share a few drinks with friends around a campfire, you can treat yourself to a little can of something after a day of yard work or a long hike. All nice enjoyable little moments. People have been drinking wine forever for a reason. It's just nice. But if it's not your thing that's okay and you shouldn't feel bad. Some people might try to make you feel bad about it but that's just their own insecurity about how much they themselves drink more than anything I think.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

I-was-saying I drink because it tastes good

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The one time I got inebriated I did become more social, but I mostly cried and offered people way too personal information. other times alcohol has had no real effect on me that I've noticed.

I tend to not wanna socialize. I have avoidant personality disorder though.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

drinking in order to be able to speak to people

solidarity there comrade. i hate that i black out so easily, because the times i have drank at house parties and such are the only times in my life that i remember being socially functional and normal-adjacent, or enjoying being around acquaintances/strangers/friends of friends.

god i wish i could do that shit without writing off the next day doomer

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I don't drink because it tastes bad, it's bad for you, and it's too expensive. Bars, parties, and concerts are all literally hell as far as I'm concerned, so there's no pressure there for me. Really the only issue is when I go to a boardgame night (well, went to a boardgame night, COVID's still largely putting a stop to that) and somebody starts drinking, because it means we have to start playing lighter games and I don't generally find those fun.

I'd say it's not a problem.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

yeahhhh there's significantly too much expectation that many/most adult social/recreational events will revolve around drinking. I enjoy drinking like, a good chunk of the time, but the other half of the time I just wish it wasn't such a thing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

You can get used to it, but don't force yourself either. If you feel really uncomfortable there are also a growing number of zero alcohol beverages which should taste something like their alcoholic equivalents. You can also try mixing alcoholic beverages with sodas or seltzer water. But more than anything Just do what you are most comfortable with.

If that means not drinking at all that's cool. I've been there as well where I've had friends egging me to get blackout drunk and most of the time I just don't drink much. Luckily I've also had other friends who know me well enough to take some of the pressure off when someone is trying to get me to drink too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

nah it tastes bad.

if you mix it with enough sugar and stuff it can be tolerable but at that point just have a soda

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Do bars not do freebie sodas for designated drivers anymore? I'm decades past pub life, but I can't recall ever visiting a bar that didn't give the DD unlimited diet coke or whatever. It's a way for them to skirt around over-serving laws.

I guess that could be a problem if you're going out alone, though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I wouldn't say I "hate" it, but I've definitely never really understood it. like I bought a bottle of crystal skull vodka a month ago, drank exactly two vodka and cokes, and its sat on my shelf completely untouched ever since. The few times I've drank enough to get buzzed I didn't really enjoy it either.

As far as social situations go, I've never been on a pub crawl or anything like that because I've just never had those kinds of friends, but the times I've been at parties where people are drinking I've literally never gotten so much as a glance for sticking with soda. If someone asked I'd be like "I gotta drive/ride home" but they never have.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

If you don’t like it, that’s cool, don’t force yourself to like it for social pressure (you know what that’s actually pretty decent advice for everything in life). Knowing what you want and what you don’t is a sign of self assurance, that is the hallmark of cool. If people don’t respect you for that, you don’t need their respect.

In alcohols favour (or drugs in general) getting a little out of control and vulnerable with a group of people is a pretty strong way of building bonds with those individuals, there are theories that that is how early societies and groups gained trust and cohesion. Re: the taste, it takes a while to develop an appreciation for alcohol, however a cold cider or beer on a hot day is unbeatable, wine accompanies food like nothing else, and whiskey in an evening after a gig or with friends round a campfire just hits right. But that’s my personal opinion. I don’t really drink with friends to get drunk any more, my life has moved past that now, however I still drink circumstantially for taste/refreshment/pleasure just I have one or two now, not as many as I can. I think that’s come with maturity (and age’s negative affect on a hangover! I used to be able to party all night and be up at 7 the next day for work, today I need a half/full day to recover from a big night!). But I have imbibed for years and will continue to for the foreseeable, it’s a pleasant activity for me and ingrained in many cultural and social events I enjoy and participate in, you’ll take my pint after a long days hiking over my cold dead body!

All this said, I’ve been in Muslim countries with no alcohol at all for months and had just as good a time. I’ve also in my youth been to alcohol and drug free raves and had wild nights.

Alcohol is literally poison, there is no safe amount, and even in moderation it’s high calorie, kills brain cells and depletes nutrients from your body. If you drink more than you can handle it encourages regrettable decisions and leaves you vulnerable. It’s also addictive, habit forming and for many it’s ruinous to health, personality and those you love. Which is to say, if you don’t want to drink, don’t. It’s probably bad, and you can do fine without it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Most of the time a question of "does anyone else?" will be yes. As it is here. You are not alone. That's okay.

I'm not a heavy drinker. My parents don't have great drinking habits.

I go to a lot of concerts. I usually don't get anything to drink. Most people don't care. Though maybe that depends on the scene.

On dates I'll usually have one, or two if it's going well. To my mind alcohol makes you think less about the long term, and that makes it easier to take risks like asking "do you wanna make out?"

Not all bars are loud. There's semi-famously Burp Castle in Manhattan where they will literally shush you if it's too loud. My go-to bar has music playing inside and a quiet back yard. Lots of places like that exist. You don't have to go to one that's blasting music or television.

Sometimes we go out for drinks at work. No one gives the guy who doesn't drink for religious reasons shit. Nor the guy who wasn't drinking for "I'm taking a month off from beer" reasons.

Drinking at home alone is a bad idea though. Do not recommend. That way lies sorrow and poor health.

I usually get like a rum and coke or whisky ginger ale. The soda dominates the flavor. I don't really like sour beer. It often tastes like I've already thrown up, but my friend loves that shit. I don't know anything about wine but there's a range of flavor available there.

Anyway. You shouldn't feel obligated to drink if you don't want to. It has a bunch of tradeoffs that can get expensive.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

As someone who drinks too much, I strongly suggest you avoid it. Teetotalism is good for the body and soul.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

You could order club soda or something. Don't they have those at bars? I don't drink at all but, I was thinking of trying that If I ever have to go to one as a social scene.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I... on occasion... almost always in the privacy of my own home, will occasionally drink some home made wine.

Otherwise, I don't care for drinking or being around people who are drinking.

If you can manage to find a small pub and spend time with drunk friends there, and you can afford it (unless the bartender is super cool), tell the bartender that you can't/don't drink and to occasionally send you a virgin mixed drink or just straight up apple juice. When your friends want to go to louder places, its "handshakes, high-fives, and hugs time" and you all go your separate ways for the night.

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