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I’m back! It’s been a while since I’ve been on this site because I’ve found myself under some financial trouble and I’ve been stressed BUT I wanted to take this opportunity to talk about something I love dearly: dihedral groups!

Consider the symmetries of a square:

We can see that there are 4 reflections and 3 rotations, as well as the act of doing nothing at all. Together, we have 8 total symmetries, and in fact, these are all of the possible symmetries. What this means is that if we do one of these symmetric moves and then do another one, we will have not changed the square, and therefore doing these two moves is the same as doing just one of the 8 symmetries on its own. For example, doing a 90 degree rotation followed by a 180 degree rotation is the same as doing a 270 degree rotation. Also, doing a 90 degree rotation followed by a reflection across the vertical axis is the same as doing a reflection across a diagonal axis.

So in other words, we can define a function that takes two symmetries of a square as input and which outputs another symmetry. Since standard multiplication is a function taking two numbers and outputting another number, it makes sense to borrow the notation of multiplication for this function. Our symmetry function satisfies a few useful properties:

  • Closure: As explained above, for any two symmetries, the function will spit out another symmetry
  • Identity: There is a symmetry (namely, the “do nothing” symmetry) such that when it is input into the function with another symmetry, the function will always simply output the other symmetry
  • Associativity: For any symmetries a, b, and c, (ab)c = a(bc)
  • Inverses: For every symmetry, there is a symmetry that undoes it. For example, rotating a square by 270 degrees undoes rotating it by 90 degrees, and doing a reflection a second time after doing it once undoes the first reflection

These 4 properties are so important that any set of objects with a function defined on it that satisfies all of these properties has a special name: they’re called groups and they’re really freaking awesome. The symmetries of a square as a group is called D~8~, since there are 8 total symmetries. Sometimes you might see it called D~4~, since squares have 4 sides, but I think this convention is a bit silly. In the same way, D~6~ is the symmetries of an equilateral triangle, D~10~ is the symmetries of a regular pentagon, and so forth. In general, D~2n~ is the symmetries of a regular n-gon.

Now, one interesting thing is that groups can contain each other. For example, consider an octagon. Since there are squares hidden within the points of octagons, if we pick a square we can see that all of the symmetries of that square are present in the symmetries of of the octagon, so it is possible to throw out all of the other symmetries. What we would be left with is just the symmetries of a square. What this means is that D~8~ is contained in D~16~. You can play similar games to show that there are lots of groups contained inside the dihedral groups.

The last thing I want to talk about regarding these things are their subgroup lattices. Oftentimes mathematicians want to picture the internal structure of a group. One of the ways they might do this is by writing down all of the subgroups of a group they’re studying onto a piece of paper, and then connecting any two with a line if one of them is a subgroup of the other that doesn’t have a subgroup between them. The resulting picture is called a subgroup lattice, and I’ve left some dihedral group lattices below because I think they’re pretty.

two cute dihedral subgroup lattices holding hands and cuddling

Anyway this has been gushposting with your host, yewler. Maybe next mega I might talk about more specific details that make these things cool.

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

me trying to open up a dialogue with the trans megaWhat up nerds nerd

[-] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

spoilerOnly cause you want dialogue lol

One of the reasons, small reason, I broke up with my ex is cause they'd say "what up nerd" or "what up loser" - and they'd said it jokingly but they also never/rarely would be nice when greeting or talking lol. Like "what's up pretty lady" would've been nice to hear every once in a while. Even with someone who they'd been with for a long time, they couldn't manage that sincerity and intimacy and had to shield behind performative meanness as a way to show that they felt close with me.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

No I get that, for me most of my friends get uncomfortable with bare emotions so I've learned to either hold back to do these kind of stuff. I'd prefer not to but eh I just chalked it up stuff on their end. Might just be keeping me at a distance and I'll respect that but I can't help but to check out mentally when doing this for long. Guess I find it hard to make close friends because of this, I got a lot of them but I don't really share anything deep with them because of this.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

ntm, long and stressful week that's nearly over, you?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Same just passed a test I was worried about, feeling pretty good en

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

If the pocket protector fits 🤓

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't like what you're implying here. I math post ironically

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I did this with no-copyright at first owl-wink no worries I get it

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

So you’re the opposite of a maths nerd? What would that make you? A maths jock?

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

sup. is there something specific youd like to nerd out about? i'm all-ears

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Mostly wanted to touch base, I did paint my nails after so long and the reception I get from guys and gals is positivecatgirl-happy

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

nice! what color did you get? was it indigo?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Forest green with some gold sparkles very nice

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Hi nerd. I’m just chilling (procrastinating working on an assignment)

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I'm learning plumbing stuff on my end, let's give it our all

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Im going on a walk. I wanna walk 20 miles one day.

Edit - I just saw a cat in a window, then looked down and found a $20

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago
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