one guy who out of nowhere became a dragon otherkin and every conversation with him for six months was about the politics of dragon councils and which people he suspected of secretly being wyverns.

this dude sounds like he completely bought into being a dragon otherkin so the fact you labled it 'surface level' is very funny to me I'm just imagining him yapping at you for like 45 minutes about some dragon council meeting like and you sitting there thinking "yeah sure, ok you fucking larper"

midlife crises used to be way more boring than that and i don't know if this is an improvement

one guy who out of nowhere became a dragon otherkin and every conversation with him for six months was about the politics of dragon councils and which people he suspected of secretly being wyverns

is he single?

Guys do this sometimes, they suddenly decide they're a different, cooler guy now and they make a big debut as Guy 2.0. But normally it's more like they suddenly buy a Miata

I don't think it's necessarily a guy thing, I think everyone has

or start wearing a leather jacket.

Don't call me out like this.

Sounds like the way people with ADD tend to pick things up, get really into them for a short period of time and then put them down. Or kids when they are searching for their “thing”, maybe the guys you know are just big kids who still never found their thing. Or maybe its just more noticeable than the people who pick up something new, get really into it, and do stick with it forever, which is also something that happens. I know guys who got super into grilling or woodworking or whatever and are still at it after many years.

Surely there would be a number of different motivations and it can be difficult to tell when an interest in something is genuinely "surface-level" unless you have that interest yourself, so I don't know if I'd label this as a single broad phenomenon. I also don't know whether I'd label "suddenly getting into something new" as a guy thing as opposed to just something that I guess stands out more when guys do it. Heck, who knows if it's even something they "never showed interest in before" versus just something you never noticed them taking interest in before, or they just didn't tell you in particular, or they did tell you and you just forgot? I'm thinking about all the times when people are like "you never showed signs of being trans", but actually you showed plenty, it's just that the possibility of being trans is so far outside of the cis brain that even the eggiest of behavior goes right over their heads. It can be the same for interests/hobbies, especially if people are worried about being judged as cringe for it.

Not to ascribe motivations to people I don't know, but if I heard about somebody in my life suddenly converting from atheism to Islam without consulting anybody in their life about it first, then I'd have to wonder if the person was experiencing psychosis. This isn't to say that people can't genuinely convert from atheism to a religion, but when that conversion is particularly sudden and accompanied by erratic and irresponsible behavior such as converting without telling your partner of ten years, then the total change of worldview to start believing in supernatural forces becomes a bit concerning. For people who take a sudden interest in the Roman Empire, my first thought would be that it's a cryptofascist red flag, that the interest is surface-level because it's more of an aesthetic-based dogwhistle than anything, and actual scholarly knowledge of the Roman Empire would be counterproductive to the fascist worldview. Which isn't to say that it's impossible to take an interest in the Roman Empire in a non-fashy way, just that I'd approach with much caution. As for otherkin, then that's a subculture that skews very autistic, and I would know a thing or two about letting my life suddenly get consumed by a new autistic interest.

All of this based on people I've known who converted to Islam, got into the Roman Empire, or were otherkin, although a few anecdotal experiences aren't enough to speak for people as a whole. As I'm saying, there are many different motivations behind why people might suddenly change so much, so we should try to be less judgmental on the whole. Even in the cases where it genuinely is just somebody deciding to become a Different Cooler Guy for the sake of being a Different Cooler Guy, then should we really be judging people for finding ways to experiment with their identity? Maybe you'll feel some second-hand embarrassment from seeing somebody's seventieth Guy 2.0 debut, but the state of being alive in general is a phase, so why should we devalue the sub-phases that life contains? The problem with suddenly deciding to wear a leather jacket is the leather part, not the change in wardrobe. To be cringe is to be free!

I dunno.

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ADHD. Stuff just happens sometimes

At least they have enough sense of taste to go for a Miata instead of something heinous like a mustang or a giant ass pavement princess. IM JUST SAYIN.

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I feel like I have been seeing among white dudes more of the sentiment "our Christian leaders are evil pedos and support Israel, maybe Islam has a point? " The chuds also see it as more "traditional" regarding gender roles than liberal western society, I've seen manosphere types posting about Islam and the wife's in the home place etc.

It turns out that what I really want in a religion is shooting down F35s and bombing Tel Aviv

They are very very obvious attempts to keep the culture war alive IMO. They were trying it with a new black twitter sub a few months ago but then half the comments were about capitalism and suddenly that sub stopped making the front page.

i mean if my partner of 10 years were both irreligious i would feel pretty weirded out that he would a make a big life decision like this without any indication

though i doubt this lady would have such a big reaction if this guy became a Episcopalian or something

Maybe I'm an overly obnoxious atheist but I would definitely be wary if someone I was close to converted to Christianity. Adult converts to Christianity have been some of the most reactionary people I've ever known - misogynist, LGBTphobic, dominionist, the works.

That’d be a no from me. I’m not being with a misogynist who believes in sky daddy. And yes, all of those religions count.

Call me an overly obnoxious atheist. I don’t care. We aren’t fucking.

I'd absolutely break up with someone who converted to any of the abrahamic religions in adulthood. There's a reason the holy texts of those religions are used to justify some of the worst things humanity is capable of, and it's because the god of the abrahamic religions is depicted as explicitly approving of most of them. I'm not out on the streets haranguing anyone but I am also not okay with being in a relationship with someone who decides, as an adult, that that entity is worthy of worship.