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[-] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 11 points 43 minutes ago

Year 3: From your home office, you spearhead multiple high level projects which triple the billable hours of your department. You are not in the office enough to lick the asshole of your manager so Bob the intern gets the promotion. Bob will be paid entry level salary and really knows how to get the tongue deep in that brown hole.

Year 4: Enough is enough. You quit that stupid job and secure a job with a company that values performance based promotions and raises. No one knows anything about your projects and when you leave they whither on the vine.

Year 5: You run into Bob at the pub. He says management converted the office to AI and everyone got fired.

Year 6: You chuckle when you drive by that company you used to work for and find the building is now for lease and the company is in bankruptcy.

[-] mabeledo@lemmy.world 30 points 1 hour ago

Love it when they state so clearly that promotions are a byproduct of office politics, not actual work performance.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 hour ago

Year 1: incredibly productive

So if productivity is up why are we going up hybrid in the first place?

[-] TWeaK@lemmy.today 2 points 36 minutes ago* (last edited 34 minutes ago)

A raise with no promotion = more pay for the same responsibilities.

The last point in year 3 sounds divine.

Also at the end of it all they went for a 4 day work week, on top of the raises.

[-] Akamun@lemmy.zip 1 points 39 minutes ago

I am also in the same boat. But will quit in few weeks. On year 4

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 hour ago

If I wanted my job to like this I would have become an actress.

[-] AmyAye@nord.pub 19 points 2 hours ago

"You got the promotion, yet somehow your quality of life is shittier because you are spending 1/4th of your net pay on gas and eating out and child care and you had to get rid of your dog because you are not around enough to properly handle an animal, plus you have 10 hours less free time during the week because of your commute."

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 5 points 1 hour ago

And let's be fair, no one is getting the promotion.

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago
[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 4 points 2 hours ago

What a bunch of shit. I go to work every day because I like what I get to do and I need to be there. If I didn't like what I do or need to be there, fuck traffic. Fuck driving at all, and frankly, I didn't put my balls on the line to declare my love to the woman I married just to spend most of my life with some randos. I want to be home having all sorts of sex with her all the time possible for us to do that....but I do like the things I do. So honey, I'll be a little late but keep my couch warm okay?

[-] sleepmode@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

We need a new plague.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 16 points 4 hours ago

Hahaha get fucked i've worked remote since 2015.

[-] nik9000@programming.dev 1 points 57 minutes ago

I've been remote since 2013. We said "distributed" because it was important that we didn't have a central office. This kind of thing happened much less. A company can do distributed well.

That hasn't held up forever. Because, well, gestured wildly at entire sub.

[-] jaschen@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago

I quit 2 jobs that had a RTO. One was Salesforce when they acquired Slack. The other was another software company that I still have an NDA with.

I'm never going back into the office. I rather make less money.

What's interesting is that I'm actually making more money doing remote because I don't need to commute or pay for lunches or happy hours anymore. Actual time spent at work calculated, I'm making 40% more $.

[-] CaptainMan251@lemmy.world 26 points 5 hours ago

If it isn't about the work then TF is it about?

I go to work for MONEY. You pay to make you MONEY. For me to make you money, you need me to WORK

It is about the work.

Now pay me more

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

It's about an AI generated sense of accomplishment.

[-] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

It's not wrong, but what it describes is ethically wrong in my opinion. Raises and promotions are less about work performance and more about performative theatre. Being chummy with management is often a better predictor of upward career trajectory.

Any decent manager knows better, but many managers became such by schmoozing their way up, so the cycle of incompetence continues.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

Upper management isn't only about the work.

Yeah you can do the work, but also probably the person in the office can also do the work.

If the person in the office is the one interacting with the upper management more and the work is being done equally well between them and some unknown person that works remotely why would they hire the person you do not know?

The management position / next level probably entails more people skills and dealing with people so someone you have hardly ever spoken to might not have those skills but the person in the office they know can at least deal with people well.

[-] nulluser@lemmy.world 55 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Year 1: "incredibly productive"

Year 5: "not about the work"

I love how they freely admit that it has nothing to do with being good at your job and everything to do with schmoozing.

Like that's really the purpose of the company... manufacturing schmooze, so we need good schmoozers

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 5 hours ago

Funny how, even in their weird masturbatory LinkedIn fever dreams, the person still ends up going from working in office five days a week, to four.

So apparently all of this was still worth it.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 5 hours ago

That's a lot of words to say "Office politics is important."

Remote workers know this. They aren't necessarily looking for a promotion, with more responsibilities, although everybody wants more money. Working remotely can already feel like a promotion.

And if I had to come in to the office a couple of days a week, I'd make sure that at least one of them was on the same day as my boss. Scheduling your office days against your boss' seems like you are deliberately avoiding them. If I were the boss, I'd certainly take it that way, and make sure we cross paths at least once a week.

But the remote worker has already made the calculation that working at home has advantages that outweigh promotions, and perhaps even raises. If they can get their 40 hour job done in 10-15 hours at home, they can devote that extra time to another job, or their hobby, or family, or training for the Olympics, or something.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 3 hours ago

Not spending 500$ per month on commute, or another 500 on food because no space in work fridge, Plus more sleep from no commute Is INSTANT value.

[-] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Sounds like advice I'd get from my Silent Gen parents, if they'd known what working from home was.

[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago

I imagine most of this is actually true for a lot of companies. Not because it's a good or even sensible model. Because most companies are mismanaged due to rampant nepotism, among many other issues.

What percantage of managers you've met had any idea what they're doing?

[-] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

Or you can skip all that and leave after year 2 and get a better paying job.

[-] corey931@lemmy.wtf 4 points 6 hours ago

Research is with me that they perceive employees at the office as more committed, promotion-worthy even though there’s no evidence for that. It’s just the people who are fine playing the ineffective corporate game.

Imo the problem is lack of structured evaluation systems that’s perpetuated by dinosaurs for managers, lazy and/or incompetent managers without context who don’t want structured evaluation systems, so they can keep stroking their egos instead of making the company perform better, wasting everybody’s time with this BS

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 26 points 10 hours ago

Year 3: I get a new job that values my output instead of my physical location.

Year 4: I still laugh about the morons in managment.

[-] Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

I have no idea what office people do. From my research they sit in front of computers and write emails, frown at the occasional spreadsheet, and grow more irritated the more interaction they have to have with coworkers they don't want to copulate with.

They also get evasive and defensive when you ask them what their job title means.

If they can get paid to forward emails and avoid social interaction from home, thermodynamically, that seems more efficient. To me, at least.

[-] AmyAye@nord.pub 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I can't work remote because sometimes I have to work on physical servers but when I am in the office, I am the only person in the building half the time so I mostly play games on my personal laptop or shitpost online.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 4 hours ago

Heehee this reads perfectly like a monologue from "Resident Alien" :D

[-] InputZero@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Worked on both sides, some people are just email coordinators but often times what's actually happening in the office is planning. I've worked in manufacturing so the planning is forming contracts with suppliers for raw materials, planning the logistics of getting those raw materials from the supplier to the plant, scheduling time for PMs, scheduling people's shifts to process the raw materials, negotiating with customers, planning the logistics of getting the finished goods to your customers, ensuring compliance with governing body's, arbitrating employee grievances, ensuring that you're meeting the requirements of the industrial insurance policy, develop improvements to the processes, ensure compliance with corporate, audit the systems for improvement, maintain health and safety, manage budgets for literally everything the company does, and that's just off the top of my head. A good office in manufacturing at least isn't noticeable because everything is done and ready for production when they need it.

[-] stumu415@lemmy.zip 34 points 11 hours ago

LinkedIn is such wanker filled trash

[-] charonn0@startrek.website 36 points 11 hours ago

I find it interesting how "the promotion" is an end in itself. No context, no details, just "the promotion". And you didn't get it! Tsk, tsk, tsk.

[-] Supercrunchy@programming.dev 8 points 6 hours ago

This "promotion as next obvious thing you want" needs to die. I don't want to go manage people and have told my manager that I'm happy in my current role and I don't want a promotion. He was quite happy to know he did not have to worry about that.

[-] Birch@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 hours ago

Of course, because promotion is the only way to get ahead, by taking on more responsibilities and managing other people, god forbid you'd get a raise just for being really good at what you do.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

My last company had a cool pathway where you could become a "distinguished engineer" instead of a manager and get the same sort of huge salary and stock options. Unfortunately, my last company also liked to lay off huge swaths of engineers, particular those who were a year away from being eligible to become "distinguished engineers".

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[-] SalamiDommie@lemmus.org -5 points 3 hours ago

I love in office. Remote only are babies.

[-] wheez@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago

Good for you. In the end however, I think the important thing is choice.

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