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I'm thinking even for cases of like shrinkflation.

I saw an article about potentially cheaper RAM here, so it got me curious if things ever really get better on occasion.

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[-] Alsjemenou@lemy.nl 5 points 1 hour ago

The USB mess and proprietary cables.

[-] regdog@lemmy.world 0 points 32 minutes ago

You misunderstood the term. An individual company gets shitty and dies a slow death. Meanwhile another company rises and picks up the users of the dying company. And then the cycle starts anew.

Or maybe you just meant to say "Which industry went bad, and then went not bad again".

[-] Yaky@slrpnk.net 19 points 5 hours ago

AFAIK internet access was very siloed in the 90s - AOL, CompuServe, Prodigy and the like, which weren't quite ISPs, since they allowed access only to their own services and networks. Then, in 2000s, these companies evolved and ISPs started providing access to the WWW, whick you could call "deshittifying" internet access.

[-] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 1 points 18 minutes ago

Probably before my time... What I remeber from using AOL was that their browser and keyword structure was like an idiot-proof version of the Internet that was accessible for the entire family. I guess they thought that typing www.something.com was for techies... But that ultimately they were still providing you an internet connection and you could use other software to access the actual internet.

[-] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

telecommunications before and after AT&T was broken up

[-] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago

When i was a kid, soft drink cans were 280mL or something like that. Then we got the 355mL cans. Product inflation. I think its the only thing i can think of that's never been shrinkflated.

Now they have the smaller cans for portion control reasons, but they still havent shrinkflated the normal cans

[-] BlushedPotatoPlayers@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 hours ago

Here they tried to introduce 400ml beer cans, explaining that this is what people actually want. The anger quickly removed that crap from the shelves.

[-] d00ery@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

400ml to pint size cans are common in the UK. But I noticed in Sweden for example smaller 330ml cans are available - also available in UK but no where near as common.

These comments don’t leave room for much hope…

[-] Bubs12@lemmy.cafe 69 points 9 hours ago

Book stores come to mind. Barnes and Noble killed local book stores and then Amazon killed Barnes and Noble which left an opening for local independent book stores to come back

[-] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 20 points 8 hours ago

And now the ones in my area are shutting down because B&N somehow is able to open new branches.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago

B&N did this huge push to Nook which has now been pretty much abandoned.

[-] karpintero@lemmy.world 69 points 10 hours ago

Coffee perhaps. I think previous generations were more apt to just get a tub of Folgers or Maxwell House and not care too much about what they were drinking. Then third wave coffee shops started emphasizing quality, process, and flavor nuances. These days, you can find specialty coffee in most areas or get high-quality beans delivered and brew it yourself.

[-] blarghly@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago
[-] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 8 points 8 hours ago

I used to not understand why people liked coffee until I had a real espresso.

[-] Rolder@reddthat.com 13 points 10 hours ago

I got a nice local shop which was part of a chain but the manager bought out the location and has been doing pretty well.

[-] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 18 points 9 hours ago

The need to constantly show growth makes me wonder if it's worth doing crazy stuff that tanks the business just to show growth by getting it out of the ditch back to where it was before.

[-] spectrums_coherence@piefed.social 43 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

academic publishing. It used to be monopolized by a couple publishing company with unreasonably high fee for access on both the side of researcher and reader.

Now, through hard works of the academics and funding from the public, now many publishing company are non-profit governed by working academics. And in many fields, open access has become the default.

[-] groet@feddit.org 23 points 9 hours ago

I wouldn't call it de-shitified but it is getting better. I think also Anna's archive and syhub should not be underestimated in their effect. If students and researchers are not dependant on journals to do their work, they are more likely to publish open access.

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 hours ago

Probably the biggest effect IMO is sites like arxiv.

[-] spectrums_coherence@piefed.social 10 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Yes, there are many field that are still struggling, but nowadays most of, if not all, the articles in my domain is published by ACM and Schloss Dagstuhl, both are academic governed non-profit that are full open access (I don't think author even have the option to close access.

That being said, fields like medicine, biology, engineering is very much behind. I am very glad my field moved away from publishing with IEEE. They are not necessarily "behind" the entire academia, but certainly way behind my field.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 56 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Beer?

In the beginning was European beer, and it was good. They created the American brewing industry and it was ok. Then they said “let there be swill” and that’s all we knew. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep.

Then Jimmy Carter said, "Let us make breweries in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the drinkers in the sea and the imbibers in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild party animals, and over all the pedestrians that move along the ground. And there was beer

Jimmy Carter saw all that he had made, and it was very good.

Edit: Jimmy Carter was the US President who signed into law deregulating beer. Since then we were legally able to start brewing our own, and it jumped-started the rise of craft brews here

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 20 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

it always amazes me how many people buy into the neocon garbage that Carter was a bad president. Dude was a nuclear submariner, helped cleanup a nuclear disaster, built houses with his hands, and his biggest crime to them? he cancelled the B-1 bomber when it became painfully obvious the stealth programs were going to eclipse it's usefulness.

Reagan got elected on treason with iran, and lies about the B-1.

4 years later he was talking about the amount of money the pentagon was spending on 'costumes' as he slid into dementia.

Carter didn't piss and moan, just went on building houses with his hands for 30+ more years.

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[-] SPRUNTnsfw@fedinsfw.app 221 points 15 hours ago

Very briefly, after the CEO of United Health was killed, insurance companies were accepting claims they otherwise would have rejected.

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 36 points 12 hours ago

And some of those were literally life-saving claims.

Luigi saved more lives than he (allegedly) ended.

[-] Soulifix@piefed.world 98 points 15 hours ago

Welp, gotta kill another then.

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 23 points 12 hours ago

Don't do that. Don't give me hope.

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[-] Carnelian@lemmy.world 145 points 15 hours ago

Video games

Had a huge crash around the Atari era due to an overwhelming amount of shovelware being published. Games were also extremely expensive then

Nintendo famously reversed this crisis with the introduction of the NES and their “Nintendo seal of quality”. Consumers were able to access a curated collection of quality games, and it really turned things around and basically launched the modern gaming industry

[-] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 6 hours ago

If anybody wants to know just how bad the crash was, Atari buried about 700,000 game cartridges and consoles in a landfill in New Mexico after the release of the infamously bad ET game for the Atari. A game that supposedly had more cartridges manufactured than there were existing consoles for them to be played on at the time.

It was so bad that the home console effectively disappeared from the US market as investors and customers believed that the fad had run its course and companies went back to focusing exclusively on arcade cabinets until Nintendo came in about 3 years later and proved that there was still a market for home consoles. It was so bad that Nintendo changed the name of the NES for the Japanese market to the Famicom - advertising it as a "family computer" system, not a game console.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

I remember the seal as a kid, I had no idea why they were doing that though. Thats a cool piece of history.

[-] soratoyuki@piefed.zip 54 points 14 hours ago

Steam, too. It was originally unpopular DRM for Half-Life 2. It had a broken offline mode that could only be selected when already online. It had no meaningful customer service and people permanently lost their accounts with no avenue for appeal (and probably no human even involved).

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[-] DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 34 points 12 hours ago

I'd say American car companies. Due to market consolidation and car brands being a symbol of national pride, they were able to enshitify in the 1970's and 80's, producing low-quality expensive cars. Competition from Japan in the late 80's and 90's forced them to improve. American cars still trail behind Japanese cars in quality, but they've gotten much better.

Free and fair competition is essential to any economy. The gutting of antitrust laws in the USA is partly to blame for whatever you call this system we have now (I can't confidently say it's capitalism anymore).

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

Hard disagree lol, the American OEM standard is a bar so far down you can see the sparks of hell. The improvement was just their initial attempt to catch up before they gave up.

They nuked the EPA regulations which is why everything in the US is an SUV now and they bypassed competition with Japenese OEMs by lobbying congress to make anti import laws (exactly like what they are doing right now for Chinese EVs) which is how we got all these hodpe podge 90s era hybrid deal brands like diamond star or mazda & ford.

By the time those brands finally entered the US market with local production in full, they had already learned the gg ez system from their American counterparts and began to follow the same crappy practices of reducing cost and quality on every possible corner.

I wouldn't buy a Ford vehicle of this decade even if it ends up being cheaper because the thing is made of ABS plastic and Chinese aluminum glued together with the freshly harvested tears of their yearly department layoffs.

[-] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I'd argue that the big ~~3~~ 2 never recovered. Car design peaked in the 1920s and never recovered when the larger corps lobbied/wrote safety and fuel standards to force the mass consolidation of companies down to 3. Innovation slowed down so much and it is why China is going to eat our lunch through the transition to BEVs.

Cronyism is the system we have

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[-] Vibi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 108 points 15 hours ago

I got curious and did a bit of searching since I couldn't really think of anything. Apparently Fender (guitars) was originally amazing, was sold to another company and really degraded in overall quality, and then was purchased back by some of its engineers and returned to a better quality. Pretty nice to see that people who were actually passionate about something regaining control and saving something they loved.

https://www.soundunlimited.co.uk/blogs/articles/fender_timeline

[-] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 hours ago

Newman's own seemed on track to go through the same thing, but the original family bought it back before things got too far.

This is similar to how many of the big names in the video game industry were built. Disgruntled designers leaving companies like Atari to start their own company. It's how Blizzard got their start, and I believe Ubisoft, EA, and at least a couple of the other big names were founded the same way.

Then, of course, the bean counters started taking over and it all went downhill from there once they went from keeping the designers on task with realistic goals to maximizing profits.

[-] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 21 points 12 hours ago

They then proceeded to not innovate at all for a couple decades and now they're serving cease and desists to any builders making guitars remotely similar to the Stratocaster with demands to recall and destroy sold guitars.

Fender is dogshit ass like Gibson. Both companies have behaved like entitled nepo-babies for decades. These companies deserve to die as punishment for their hubris.

Relevant link.

[-] scytale@piefed.zip 48 points 14 hours ago

Ironically, they are now sending cease-and-desist letters to guitar manufacturers that build guitars with the s-style that their stratocasters have, and they are public enemy number one in the guitar community right now.

https://www.guitarworld.com/gear/electric-guitars/fender-cease-and-desist-lsl-instruments

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