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Has there ever been an industry that's been "enshittified" and then un-"enshittified"? (lemmy.world)
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I'm thinking even for cases of like shrinkflation.

I saw an article about potentially cheaper RAM here, so it got me curious if things ever really get better on occasion.

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[–] 73 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (31 children)

Beer?

In the beginning was European beer, and it was good. They created the American brewing industry and it was ok. Then they said “let there be swill” and that’s all we knew. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep.

Then Jimmy Carter said, "Let us make breweries in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the drinkers in the sea and the imbibers in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild party animals, and over all the pedestrians that move along the ground. And there was beer

Jimmy Carter saw all that he had made, and it was very good.

Edit: Jimmy Carter was the US President who signed into law deregulating beer. Since then we were legally able to start brewing our own, and it jumped-started the rise of craft brews here

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  • [–] 35 points 3 months ago* (14 children)

    it always amazes me how many people buy into the neocon garbage that Carter was a bad president. Dude was a nuclear submariner, helped cleanup a nuclear disaster, built houses with his hands, and his biggest crime to them? he cancelled the B-1 bomber when it became painfully obvious the stealth programs were going to eclipse it's usefulness.

    Reagan got elected on treason with iran, and lies about the B-1.

    4 years later he was talking about the amount of money the pentagon was spending on 'costumes' as he slid into dementia.

    Carter didn't piss and moan, just went on building houses with his hands for 30+ more years.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Carter was also the last president to treat the American people like adults.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    that's insightful; so much of reaganism was 'let daddy take care of things and don't worry your pretty little head about ww3'.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I remember reading his malais speech and thinking that the American people were a bunch of babies for trashing him over it.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    malais speech

    I'd heard this mentioned but it was before my time, upon reading it..... holy shit, america, this guy described problems like an adult and you freaked the fuck out and went reagan.

    jfc

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Carter brought the Iran situation on himself by himself.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter%27s_engagement_with_Ruhollah_Khomeini

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    That article repeatedly points out the shit-sandwich geopolitical and local political situation with Iran has been going back to Kennedy.

    Is it bullshit petroleum company induced meddling and related crimes? For sure. Does it mean landing in Carter's lap means he eats the whole sandwich? I don't agree. YMMV.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    The whole sandwich is not for Carter, but the part about handing over the country to Islamists.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    and yet, instead of holding the responsible parties - war hawks, petroleum companies, the bomb-bomb-bomb-iran (barbara ann) caucus, who you know are directly connected to it, you say shit like "carter for handling over the country to islamists'

    fascinating.

    keep grinding your anti-carter ax, I'm sure it makes you very popular with the youts

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    But all you fucking export is over hopped swill and fucking Brooklyn Amber lager!

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    Yeah, the over-hopped thing is a trend that should’ve been dragged out back and shot before it ever had a chance to become popular. I want to go to a beer garden and find a variety. Instead, I get a dozen IPAs, Guinness (not complaining about that one), seven different ciders that are flavored like sickly sweet tropical fruits, and a weird peanut butter flavored bock from a local brewery.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Over-hopped is a major style here, and I find it baffling. Give me the toasty, malty, barley, coffee, bitter, chocolate notes of a good porter or stout any day of the week. But no, the menu is 6 IPAs, 2 ciders, a bock, and a weiss.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago*

    Too true. I mean, I like over-hopped swill, but I like most distinctive tastes

    Currently drinking a “Maine sour”: blueberry and cinnamon. My local brewery is influenced by the cuisine of the Indian owners and really leans into sour ales and tropical fruits!

    But yeah, even though I like an IPA most of the time, what about everything else? I’ve actually had good luck finding dark/black ales this year but it seems like no one makes Marzens anymore. October is disappointing without Marzens. What’s up with that?

    Edit: Mango Lassi Sour is back in season!!!!!

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    Thank you. Christ I hate IPAs. I always feel like people are lying when they say they like them lol. I know everyone is different but fuck IPAs are SO bitter and awful.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    I used to think I didn’t like beer, until I tried it in Germany. Now I just seek that style out.

    I’ve also had an anger inducing moment when a forum debater claimed Government regulation always harms industries. I pointed to German beer, which in part remains fantastic because it has regulations to avoid devolving it into American slop. The damn liar pivoted directly into claiming their beer is terrible.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Have you tried Belgian stuff yet? Also highly regarded.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Can't stand Belgian beer. Coriander is disgusting and they use SO MUCH of it. Tastes like a god damn headache.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (2 children)

    You've been drinking the wrong beligian beers friend. There's a lot more to Belgian beer than a coriandered hoegaarden.

    Try a trippel next time you get a chance. Or if you're into hops Duvel is divine.

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