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Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

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Telegram Channels

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https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Watching some footage of Israeli incursion into Gaza and... holy shit, western miltaries learned absolutely nothing from the Ukraine war. Israeli tanks are just moving in these big dumb columns. If this army tries going into Gaza-city, it'll be a complete fucking disaster

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Israel is preparing to slaughter Israeli objectors just like it does Palestinians.

From The Guardian

Israeli media has reported that the Netanyahu government plans to approve new rules that will authorise police to use live fire on protesters blocking roads or entrances to cities inside Israel during the war.

According to the report, the rules have been championed by Itamar Ben Gvir, the ultra-nationalist settler and member of Netanyahu’s cabinet who oversees the police. They have received the rubber stamp of Israel’s attorney general, and will be brought before the government for authorisation on Sunday.

Before the war began on 7 October, Israeli demonstrators had been turning out weekly by the hundreds of thousands against the Netanyahu government’s plan to weaken the judiciary, with protesters regularly blocking major Israeli thoroughfares. Much smaller demonstrations have been taking places since the war started, calling for the government to work to release the Israeli hostages held by Hamas.

The war has sparked a crackdown by the Israeli government against perceived dissent, with hundreds of people arrested or disciplined for speech sympathetic to Gazans. Police have been given wide new powers to determine what applies as “support for terrorism”, and have declared they will not allow solidarity demonstrations in support of Gaza.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can hear the call for prayer in Gaza, but also heavy bombings. Glory to them, their struggle will end in victory. Death to Zionism.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Israeli forces raid Jenin

Israeli military forces are conducting a raid on Jenin, where they have clashed with Palestinian fighters in the northern occupied West Bank city.

Jenin, and particularly its refugee camp, is a base for Palestinian armed resistance to the Israeli occupation, who regularly battle Israeli forces during the latter’s raids.

- Al Jazeera

doing these night raids into the West Bank seems to be their MO right now

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Israeli players have been targeted with “nationalist attacks” on the popular online gaming platform Roblox, Israel’s Ministry of National Security warned in a bulletin published on Thursday.

Nearly half of the game’s 65 million users are 12 years old or younger.

Claiming it had received multiple reports of Israeli players being “attacked” in the game by players whose avatars are sporting uniforms, weapons, and the flags of Palestine and Saudi Arabia, the ministry urged parents to report any “offensive content or actors” directly to Roblox so that it could be removed.

A member of an Israeli parents’ group on Facebook claimed their child had seen other Roblox users reenacting Hamas’ October 7 surprise attack on Israel, imploring their fellow group members to monitor their children’s online activities and impose parental controls on their internet use.

The game already censors the phrase ‘Free Palestine’, as well as ‘Hamas’ and some uses of the word ‘Jews’. Discussion of elected officials, political parties, current and former political candidates, and “inflammatory content related to real world border, territorial, or jurisdictional relationships” is already prohibited.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago

broke: anti-zionism is anti-semitism

woke: anti-zionism is not anti-semitism

bespoke: zionism is anti-semitism

Death to America

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Looking for Israelis in Dagestan

data-laughing

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been trying to find this passage in Finkelstein's book forever. the context is after Cast Lead and the Goldstone Report, there was a tiny amount of pressure on Israel, and look what happened:

Compelled to face the facts and their consequences, disarmed and exposed, Israel went into panic mode. Israeli pundits expressed alarm that the Report might impede Israel’s ability to launch military attacks in the future, while Prime Minister Netanyahu ranked the “Goldstone threat” one of the major strategic challenges confronting Israel. In the meantime, Israeli officials fretted that prosecutors might hound Israelis traveling abroad. Indeed, shortly after the Report was published, the ICC announced that it was contemplating an investigation of an Israeli officer implicated in war crimes during Cast Lead. Then, in December 2009, Tzipi Livni was forced to cancel a trip to London after a British court issued an arrest warrant for her role in the commission of war crimes while serving as foreign minister during Cast Lead; and in June 2010, two Belgian lawyers representing a group of Palestinians charged 14 Israeli politicians (including Livni and Ehud Barak) with committing crimes against humanity and war crimes during the attack.

I always think of this when libs say "well, what could we possibly do?". apart from getting rid of the aid we give them, make it impossible for them to travel for fear of arrest, sanction them, charge them with crimes, make it difficult for them to carry out military attacks, and Israel's basically done for.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (16 children)

I was going to put this in the dunk tank because a leftist account quote tweeted it to dunk on her for saying "Im happy about it" re: a genocide and people in general are saying shit like "americans are so self centered, this isnt about elections" and "grifter taking the oppurtunity of a genocide to tell everyone she was right all along and settle twitter beefs".

But then i ran it by some friends to check to make sure I wasnt off base and they were saying "no its good that she's saying that people should have realized that Biden was bad all along"

So now I'm not sure because I have no confidence in myself to to CPTSD so I dont have my own opinions so Im wondering what people think? Thanks.

Oh the tweet: https://twitter.com/briebriejoy/status/1717976394234200250

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Reuters:

Israel's military said on Monday its ground forces mounted limited raids into Gaza and airstrikes targeted Palestinian militants assembling to repulse any wider Israeli invasion, as each side prepares for the next stage of the escalating war.

Palestinian group Hamas said on Sunday its fighters had engaged an armoured force infiltrating a southern area of Gaza and destroyed some Israeli military equipment before returning to base. There was no Israeli comment on such losses.

Some on Twitter are saying that both Israeli and US small groups (perhaps special forces?) entered Gaza to look for hostages and were killed/repelled. I've been curious about how our very special adult sons (of which the uncensored photo was taken, then deleted and reposted with censorship, lmfao) are even gonna attempt to find hostages in heavily defended and trapped cities and tunnel networks spanning hundreds of miles. Like, are they gonna enter a tunnel and just hope it leads somewhere important and that they don't get fucking owned by militants who know the network like the back of their hands? The assault to find and kill Osama bin Laden was a comedy of errors and that didn't involve thousands of armed soldiers defending him that the soldiers had to fight past. Are they donning their Halo Spartan armor and shit?

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Reactionaries are pushing this around as some sort of terror attack attempt related to current events.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67177294

It might not be but it's potentially worth knowing about. Far right seems to be really leaning in on "global ethnic war" now.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I find it interesting that reddit was initially billed (well, early on, I'm not a reddit history expert and I'm not going to look it up) as a "news aggregator"; on reddit you'd post a link to a news article and there's a centralised source of comments and discussion. The language of that hasn't carried over to hexbear, but we've sort of recreated the idea in the news megathread. Sort of.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)


Summary of televised Abu Obeida speech by The Cradle:

Military spokesman for Hamas' Qassam Brigades, Abu Obeida:

  • The occupation's aggression and its perpetration of the Holocaust and massacres are caused by the great pain it experiences.
  • We say to the enemy who repeats his threats of ground invasion on a daily basis, that we are still waiting for him to taste new types of death.
  • The time of selling the illusion to the world about the lie of the invincible army and the supernatural Merkava is over, after we destroyed it in the Gaza Strip.
  • We wait impatiently for the time of your humiliation.
  • The curse of the eighth decade will fall upon them.
  • Be confident, our people, that our victory is coming.
    We renew our call to the honorable people of our nation and the mujahideen of the region to consider this battle a decisive battle, and to rise with us.
  • The large number of enemy prisoners we have has the price of emptying all prisons of all [Palestinian] prisoners.

Note: at one point in Arabic he said

الى الزعماء العرب ، نقول لكم من قلب المعركة التي تشاهدون لا شك تفاصيلها ، اننا لا نطالبكم بالتحرك للدفاع عن اطفال العروبة لتحريك دباباتكم لاسمح الله ، هل وصل بكم الضعف والعجز انكم لاتستطيعون تحريك سيارات اغاثة الى جزء من ارضكم العربية الاسلامية.

Translated:

To the Arab leaders, we say to you from the heart of the battle, the details of which you are undoubtedly witnessing, that we are not asking you to move to defend the children of Arabism, to move your tanks, God forbid. Have you become so weak and impotent that you are unable to move relief vehicles to a part of your Arab and Islamic land?

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (3 children)

China's Age of Malaise

The New Yorker - in this article, China's bourgeois wonders why a country that claims to be communist isn't allowing them to further accumulate wealth and capital.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (11 children)

"'Never again,' is now." There's so much wrong with that short phrase.

Netanyahu says second stage of war has begun, with goal of destroying military and government of Hamas

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Saturday that the second stage of the war against Hamas has begun, with the goal of destroying the military and government of Hamas and returning hostages held in Gaza home.

“Our heroic fighters have one goal: To destroy this enemy and to make sure the existence of our country. Never again. 'Never again,' is now,” Netanyahu said.

Netanyahu also confirmed he spoke with the family of hostages held by Hamas and said he vowed to them that he would exhaust all options to return their loved ones.

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-28-23/h_066dd2b610622ffdc011b0feaa719009

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Deranged Zionist Rabbi: Conquest is a mitzvah and God purposely surrounds Israel with enemies to hint at our religious duty to conquer.

He gets a shoutout in a Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_(Israeli_settlement)

In April 2019, the head of the school, Rabbi Eliezer Kashtiel (he), was filmed lecturing to students on the genetic inferiority of gentiles, Palestinians, on their stupidity, and the need for them to be enslaved. He endorsed racism, and the superiority of the Jewish people.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (3 children)

‘Active investigations ongoing’: ICC Prosecutor

If you’re just joining us here’s more on the International Criminal Court’s Prosecutor Karim Khan news conference which happened in Cairo on Sunday.

Khan said the court has “active investigations ongoing” in relation to “crimes allegedly committed in Israel on October 7, and also in relation to Gaza and the West Bank in our jurisdiction, going back to 2014”.

“We are independently looking at the situation in Palestine, we are looking at events in Israel and the allegations that Palestinian nationals have also committed crimes,” Khan said.

the ICC is looking at allegations that Palestinians committed crimes guys

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

hope fetterman kills himself cause he's sad or whatever, what a scumbag

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Israel bombs next to al-Shifa Hospital, explosions puncture darkness in Gaza

Al Jazeera’s live feed from Gaza shows almost complete darkness, with the huge explosions that accompany Israel’s bombs roaring through the besieged enclave intermittently.

Some of the latest attacks have hit next to Gaza City’s al-Shifa Hospital and the Indonesian Hospital, as well as the Breij refugee camp.

A near-total communication blackout in Gaza means that most of the residents there are unable to reach emergency services, nor are they able to tell the world about what is happening on what is surely a terrifying – and deadly – night for civilians.

holy fuck the animals are actually going for it

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (10 children)

GeoConfirmed ISR-PAL - Hospital Bombing

Based on the geolocation of new footage its highly likely that:

The missile -Al Jazeera footage- is an interceptor. (Iron Dome) The explosion in the air is too far away to be related to the hospital explosion.

https://twitter.com/GeoConfirmed/status/1716113399728218618?t=ShtdLt8NYE-Hi0BhBpS-CQ&s=19

No fucking way! This is what happens when any idiot online can become an "OSINT expert."

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Update from the Front:

I awoke this morning to find my country (my apartment) had been invaded by terrorists (ants). They were not present yesterday when I was conducting environmental pollution mitigation exercises (cleaning my apartment), but they appeared to have found soft targets for their terrorism (some crumbs under a file cabinet that props up one end of my desk).

A fierce battle was waged into the early afternoon. I captured 100+ terrorists using my latest wunderwaffe (a handheld vacuum) but later released these POWs back into enemy territory (my balcony). I have conducted both aerial and ground chemical warfare attacks (sprayed lemon and eucalyptus essential oil) around suspected entrance points to deter further enemy incursions. So far the truce has held. I have taken no casualties and I estimate enemy casualties to be less than 5.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (3 children)

yeah I denounce Hamas. I denounce them not having a nuke

Death to America

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The number of Zionist detainees slain in the Gaza Strip as a result of Zionist bombing and massacres has reached 50.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

My guesses (they're pretty wild, as I know nothing of American politics):

  • They will not decide on a speaker

  • They will not be able to do any fucking thing

  • Pressure mounts as the US needs to act to keep it's colonies

  • Some false flag somewhere to justify direct action

  • Biden/Dems try a maneuver to give him special powers during time of war

  • Republicans take it as a coup and civil war begins

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (5 children)

GOP Presidential Candidates Threaten to Revoke Visas From Pro-Palestine Students

“Under the Trump administration, we will revoke the student visas of radical anti-American and antisemitic foreigners at our colleges and universities and we will send them straight back home,” Trump said in Iowa on October 16, falsely conflating anti-Zionism with antisemitism.

. . .

Some GOP presidential candidates have demanded that the federal government revoke funding from universities that allow students to hold Palestinian solidarity protests — which are protected under the First Amendment — on their campuses.

freeze-peach

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (5 children)

place your bets for the chance that Israel furiously depletes their stockpile of anti-satalite missiles (assuming they have some) while taking out elon's sats and creates a cloud of high velocity shards forever trapping humans on Earth lathe-of-heaven

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Zionist entity, which has bombed the Damascus airport 4 times over past 3 weeks, has begun murdering Syrians as well

"Israel has exponentially increased its war crimes against the Syrian Arab Republic and of its citizenry. At 0:145 Damascene time, on Wednesday, 25 October the Zionist regime bombed several “sites” in Daraa countryside, murdering eight soldiers, wounding seven others, and damaging an undisclosed amount of Syrian infrastructure.

This was another double war crime by the Zionist criminals, launching its deadly bombs from Syria’s Golan, which Israel has illegally occupied since 1967, and with the most arrogant impunity.

Israel’s bloodlust is still not sated, twelve hours after its massacre of eight Syrian Arab Army soldiers in their own country, terrorist Israel once again bombed the Aleppo International Airport."

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I realized something about libs. They deeply unconsciously believe that no one us-foreign-policy should ever be harmed or inconvenienced for anything they didn't personally and deliberately do, and that it's never acceptable to harm or inconvenience anyone us-foreign-policy in pursuit of some large scale goal, with no awareness or interest in material conditions and realities.

They'll never support any serious action because some bystanders us-foreign-policy will get hurt and to them that makes taking any action unthinkable (as long as the bystanders us-foreign-policy pass the albedo test)

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Russia has introduced a new extreme range air-to-air missile that uses passive targeting during flight, Ukrainian jets are getting no warning alarms until they're hit from ~400km

26 jets downed in the last 9 days compared to an average rate of 1-3 per week

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/ukraines-sudden-high-air-losses-likely-caused-by-new-russian-missiles.html

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"If it comes down to it, you could totally take on the entire Arab world by yourself"

  • Sun Tzionist
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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Gonna keep posting the octopus edits I find

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