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I was looking for information on insect vision for a report I'm writing and came across an internet article. The first thing I noticed is that there was a picture under the header that the article called a mantis, but the anatomy was all wrong. It was covered in ocelli, for one.

Then I started reading, and as someone that has used chat GPT before... Yeah it was clearly written by an algorithm...

This is the site. https://healingpicks.com/

Look at the pics closely and you'll see they're messed up.

How long until the whole internet is just this shit? This is why there needs to be rules and shit about this, I don't care if it stifles the 'entrepreneurial spirit' of AI or whatever. The droves of lazy copy and paste style news and 'top ten' sites were already bad enough, but this shit is bringing the internet to a new low in quality.

I can't wait until this shit is banned by China or something.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I used to think the cyberpunk genre trope of finding information online being some difficult task requiring a trained professional to be quaintly anachronistic, but the proliferation of AI generated nonsense has given the concept a new life to the point that "ok yeah soon enough it really will take a skilled professional with up to date detection tools to actually parse through this sea of literal nonsense won't it?" actually seems like a realistic future.

And yet all the discourse on it gets narrowly focused into the useless dead end of fucking property rights, a fight that's lose-lose for the public, win-win for business, and does nothing to stop ad farming/well poisoning/astroturfing spam bullshit at all. Like the property rights thing needs to be solved by making generative AI a poison pill that prevents a work from being copywritable at all and is retroactive poison against it as well (Disney used a deepfake AI in Star Wars once? Star Wars is public domain now, because fuck you; a script used AI autofill? The entire property and all licenses attached are now public domain, because fuck you), and the rest has to be solved by criminalizing ad farming spam and making the use of generative AI in it an escalating factor that turns it into a more serious crime.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (5 children)

What I know from playing Cyberpunk 2077 is that being a fixer is half figuring out Google results and half putting together slick 3D powerpoints and putting them on a datashard in a fancy little box that you present ceremoniously to someone

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The other part of your job is knowing a guy. Tbh, full time job.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

A Cyberpunk fixer is just a venture capitalist for violence.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago

Disney used a deepfake AI in Star Wars once? Star Wars is public domain now, because fuck you

sicko-wistful

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago

Im gonna be a netrunner

[–] [email protected] 54 points 11 months ago (1 children)

An archive.org backup from like 2019 is going to be the low-background steel of human knowledge

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 53 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I can't wait until it snowballs into itself and AI is using AI generated text for its own models and gets shittier.

The internet is going to be useless lol. I should learn how to read/find real books in a library to find info.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm told this is already a problem for LLM model training. There's so much algorithmicallyl generated garbage now that they can't scrape the internet for training sets without feeding garbage in to the garbage machine and getting even noisier garbage out.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I had a gig for awhile training LLM models for exactly this reason. They wanted human made content to train the models with. Problem is, many of the human trainers are using ChatGPT to get the work done faster. So even the companies going out of their way to avoid using shit content, are using shit content.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago

Its almost like the capitalist need for churning out constant quick production is bad

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They're publishing books written by AI too

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Utter trash can and has made lots of money by just churning out as much pandering slop as can be fit between book covers, targeting some demographic that's hungry for that slop. It's how Ready Player One and Twilight were so lucrative.

That means that at least some LLM slop is likely to be lucrative amid the sea of also-rans.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Kojima's prophecy from MGS2 was that AI would create a version of the internet where all the trivial stuff is filtered out from the “truth” so human society doesn’t regress in the then-new social media era.

...instead, we got a nightmare inversion where AI turbocharges the creation of trivial and outright hallucinatory content that slowly overwhelms and annihilates all sentience on the internet.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe we'll be finally be forced outside

Only to find there is nowhere left outside to go

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That feel when smuglords say "touch grass" but all the grass in your local area has police-enforced loitering laws or fee/purchase-based access. doomer smuglord

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The difference is in Kojima's art, that "AI" is actual AI and not overly bloated statistical models trained on their own bullshit.

Like you say, we're so much more doomed.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Like so many dystopian outcomes, ours is the less fun and more embarrassing version.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The LLM industry is going to crash and burn so hard and I'm all here for it. A bunch of techbros hyping up what are just big statistical models was never going to last.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

But if they belittle living beings using reductionist terminology it makes their big statistical models look more like the godlike waifu hologram fantasies they've been fapping to for decades. so-true

[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago

How long until the whole internet is just this shit?

They've been the majority of top results from before when chatgpt was a thing. Usually if you search up a release date, or a comparison between two products it's bot generated shit. Hell, they seem to have gotten worse. Probably because more mainstream places do it now, or they're just cocky and instead of spec dumps they're doing harebrained stuff like letting the AI write that the higher megapixel camera is automatically better.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Less LLM articles but “AI” shit has made finding art reference material so annoying. Search results are 50% sponsored ad links and a good 10% are shitty stable diffusion prompts. Even worse if you’re looking for generic scifi fantasy bs, then it feels like 70% of results are peoples ai robo waifus sometimes

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Sci Fi art has gone downhill. Now it's gray powersuits with a little neon blue lights thrown in. It's so corprate and stale.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Mass effect esque generic corpo scifi aesthetic is so dreary. There was a glut of it even before “AI” was a thing, now it can be even more easily mass produced 😒

Now for where it’s really at, I hope to emulate even 1% of the style and inspired design of Jean Giraud/Moebius. He also was a big influence on Tom Parkinson Morgan/Abaddon, a current fantasy & scifi artist with a hugely unique style I love.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

I miss the prog rock style airbrushed fantasy art

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago

Microsoft going all-in on LLM is just a win-win to do sneaky layoffs and destroy Google by making search absolutely worthless.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I warned everyone this was going to happen and nobody believed me.

Being right doesn't really make me feel any better about it though.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I was told, many times, that it is either indistinguishable from meat computers or whatever the cool reductionist term is for living people, and possibly superior to their input.

That was pure bazinga fantasy shit.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

What gets me is that it would take 5 min to vet these articles and make minor changes, and they're too lazy for even that.

That said, cheap content mill crap was already 99.9% of articles. Most content is written purely for SEO>

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago

Yeah I hate hate hate the centent mill and this just seems like it will make it worse

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Shinigami eyes extension but for AI content could be a useful browser extension. Enable people to opt out of even clicking links that has AI content or allows AI content.

Or alternatively, what about going whole hog? Something that functions like adblocker except ai-blocker. Remove the content from search results and being seen as linkable content entirely.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can feel my pillow brainly become more smooth as I keep reading galaxy-brain

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago

For a brief moment, I thought we'd done away with websites that were just random walls of text attempting to take advantage of early stage search engine crawlers. yea

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm assuming someone has already mentioned the problems this causes when googling health concerns, but have y'all tried looking up animal advice recently? I was trying to find some info on a rare parosphromenus species I'm working with. In the old days, this would have taken me to some niche forum threads full of posts from dedicated conservationists. Instead I found dozens of articles with care requirements listed that would have killed the fish in a matter of weeks.

At present it's still pretty easy to recognize GPT text when you see it, but it's enough to fool web crawlers and by the time they roll out GPT5 it will probably be a lot more difficult for humans to tell it apart.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah it's really bad. I was looking up information on healthcare coverage and it's "8 things you need to know" or "36 questions you might have" before selecting a healthcare plan.

I was thinking it'd be great to have an option to filter out any list results for a search engine.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago

Oh it has an orgone section, that's how you know it's good quack shit.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Understanding How Long Does It Take for Miralax to Work

Some of theses pictures really dont seem to match the article very well. Also im loving the really funky words and numbers that look like old captchas.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This hand coming out of this dollar store Edward Cullen has got me rolling.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

She seems pretty chill for someone walking in a sea of blood.

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