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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago

The same people looking to make sure children are never exposed to anything even remotely sexual support the IDF shooting Palestinian children in the stomach.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anne Frank Graphic Novel but its composed entirely on graph paper.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

"0/10 contained no Graphs"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Lisa/Anne Frank Workbook Crossover Extended Universe

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago

Tobias Fünke: "You want my novel to be...Graphic?"

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

frothingfash getting upset at the most mild expression of same-sex attraction

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Snarky Commenter

Snarky

"I DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING EXCEPT THE THINGS THAT UPSET ME AND THINGS THAT UPSET ME SHOULD CEASE TO EXIST I AM VERY SNARKY" smurf-cursed

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Comic" book?

I find them rather dull, personally.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

"this story wasn't funny at all 19"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

0/5 Stars

"Not funny, zero jokes."

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

even if it had graphic depictions of Holocaust, whats the problem? children are supposed to learn history, even gruesome parts of it.

high school history textbooks in the U.S. show photos of Holocaust, right?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Textbooks in the US tend to be pretty bad. But I assume most books they still have photos but the right-wing is creating tsunamis of shit. It's hard to keep track of everything they are up to.

I think their attacks on Holocaust-related material is them testing the fences like the velociraptors in Jurassic Park. If they can succeed in banning Holocaust-related material - they can have the confidence to try to ban anything.

Holocaust novel "Maus" banned in Tennessee school district | PBS NewsHour

Jan 27, 2022 9:33 PM EDT

ATHENS, Tenn. — A Tennessee school district has voted to ban a Pulitzer Prize-winning graphic novel about the Holocaust due to “inappropriate language” and an illustration of a nude woman, according to minutes from a board meeting.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

The stuff that Americans take offense to is hilarious. This reminds me of the scene in Hannibal with 2 corpses that had the skin on their back peeled off and cut into wings. NBC thought it was inappropriate because the buttcracks of the bodies were visible, so they obscured them with blood.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Holy shit they banned Maus? That’s nuts.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I think their attacks on Holocaust-related material is them testing the fences like the velociraptors in Jurassic Park. If they can succeed in banning Holocaust-related material - they can have the confidence to try to ban anything.

I think it's slightly more pointed than that, because education on the Holocaust is one of the few bulwarks we have against the popularization of hardcore antisemitism (however ineffective it still is)

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's not because of the holocaust. the holocaust isn't directly mentioned in Anne's diary. she had no way of knowing what was happening or where jews were being taken. the actual reason idiots are mad about it is because it's the diary of a teenage girl, and she talks unguardedly about her romantic and sexual feelings. the taboo subject here for these people is that anyone might make it to 16 without hating their body.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

ya ik what i was saying was that photos are very good at conveying the true scale of cruelty.

for example U.S. censored photos after nuclear bombing of Japan

American public highly approved of the use of the bomb and believed that the U.S. decision to drop the bombs in Japan was justified. The paper also observes that after censorship was officially lifted, publications such as Life uncovered shocking, gruesome accounts of the aftermath of the bombings. Therefore, the photographs and captions support the idea that the U.S. government wanted to avoid domestic and international criticism for the brutality of the bomb that devastated Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Photographs in the August issue provided a distanced aerial shot of the cities, but neglected to show the moaning victims, the crowded hospitals, or any other indication of the devastation left behind by two of the most destructive explosions in human history. It took Life seven years to tell what Burchett had told the world; articles in the September 1952 issue called the victims of the atomic bombs the “Walking Dead”, and shocked its readers with graphic pictures of radiation-burns on young children

http://www.dukeeastasianexus.com/a-veiled-truth-the-us-censorship-of-the-atomic-bomb.html

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

It's probably not that, but that there are parts of the book where she writes about sexuality iirc

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

depends on the state I'm sure, mine had pictures of concentration camp prisoners and probably various shots of parts of the camps, but I don't remember any death or gore

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Sometimes you'll get photos of mass graves, there are a handful of really infamous ones (including one with a long trench extending into the background). Also some slightly morbid ones like massive piles of shoes or removed gold teeth.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Next up? The chuds rant about an epistolary novel because "epistolary sounds gay".

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you call it epistolary and she doesn't even have a glock

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

What musical instrument are NRA members most passionate about?

PunchlineThe glockenspiel

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

who's he and why's he pissing to larry?

Death to America

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If people just got over themselves and called it a comic book, that specific communication could at least be avoided, since there is absolutely no difference except that "graphic novels" want to be respected by a mainstream audience.

Not even a knock on the author, the label is probably from the publisher.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IMO "graphic novel" is a little more specific. Long-running superhero or manga series aren't graphic novels, nor are newspaper comics.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thing is, there are plenty of books that are called "comics" for various reasons, such as Maus, compilations of weekly publications of a non-strip serial (e.g. tankobons)*, and some other cases.

*compare to how many classic novels, e.g. work by Charles Dickens, were initially published chapter-by-chapter but are now read as compilations. Many manga as well as western comics also get published this way (e.g. I have an old Daredevil book that was originally published on a monthly basis but reads just fine consecutively as a unified book)

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

the forehead groove in my desk is getting pretty well-worn

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

what do I do? I'm a chiropractor for hardbacks, work on their spines

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

The Chad Comic Book vs. The Ineffective Graphic Novel

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

It all makes sense if you move forward with the assumption that these people are nazis

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I thought they meant Anne Frank in 4k 120fps.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I bought a comic book about a joker but it wasn’t even comical

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

sir mister mush your fired sir

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

interesting

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

But wouldn't a graphic novel about a girl in a concentration camp be quite – you know – graphic?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

the diary takes place in Amsterdam

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, thanks. So they are about the persecution of the Jews but end when she is deported? I always thought she continued it in the concentration camp.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a diary she began shortly before her family went into hiding in a secret annex in an office building/warehouse owned by her father's business partner. It ends somewhat abruptly. We only know what happened because of the testimony of her father, who was sent to a different camp and survived to the end of the war, and that of the people hiding her, who kept the diary safe.

It's pretty much what you'd expect. Anne is a clever teenager with a dramatic streak. She writes about being afraid, but also about being bored, or annoyed with her family or the other people hiding with them. She writes about what she wants to do when the war is over, what kind of person she wants to be when she grows up, and what she misses from before. The tragedy of the diary lies outside its pages.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Which is exactly why it's an important read

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you read Anne Frank's diary?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honestly I didn't. I assumed they at least include the time in the concentration camp?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

The diary only covers the time she was in hiding with her family trying not to be caught by the Nazis - it doesn't cover any time in concentration camps. It's been years since I read it but I believe the diary ends when they're captured.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

If she kept a diary after getting placed in a concentration camp, it didn't survive.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

It's based on her literal diary, from when she was hiding from Nazis.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

The diary was from when they're in hiding. I believe the "graphic" parts are less about the holocaust and more about certain thoughts teenagers may have that she recorded.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

She couldn't exactly keep up her diary in the camp, or if she had another one it didn't survive. I think the diary we do have was recovered from the house they had been hiding in.

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