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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/24607393

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The US is actually going to implement a nationwide abortion ban and the measures for how it's going to be handled are already in the works. This bill, which I link to here: https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/7/text , seems ok at first glance and only seems to want to implement nationwide healthcare centers for women. But when you actually look at what these Pro Women's Healthcare Centers are and mean to offer, it becomes really clear what's going on.

On the first page of the PDF or booklet that appear when you search for the healthcare centers it is clear that they are supported by pro-life organisations and hold extreme pro-life values. And when you read the (very short) booklet it states their values and services that are to be provided. Among them is a requirement for "Abortion Pill Reversal" and encouragement for "Sterilization Reversal". The last page clearly states their values, where among them it states that:

"Abortion is not women's healthcare, because of the damage it causes to women's physical and emotional health and the destruction of unborn life, many of whom are females. Abortion is usually something women turn to when they feel they do not have another choice. This is a tragedy and the opposite of choice and empowerment."

And it goes on to list similiar values. The bill to implement these healthcare centers states that:

"That the House of Representatives—

(1) expresses its support for women nationwide to have access to comprehensive, convenient, compassionate, life-affirming, high-quality health care; and

(2) recognizes the high standards established by Pro Women’s Healthcare Centers consortium as standards worth implementing nationwide."

This means that the values that these Pro Women’s Healthcare Centers have are to be set as standards nationwide.

A link to the PDF/booklet about the Pro Women’s Healthcare Centers (PWHC): https://nacn-usa.org/wp-content/uploads/PWHC-Booklet.pdf

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

People are being gaslit.

The rich just want more people as soldiers or workforce. Having a larger population is not a good thing for the poor people. Smaller workforce means higher wages as per the free market (supply - demand).

And the worst part is, instead of seeing this, people jump to conclude "no, we just need to distribute the resources differently", as if that's gonna happen. It's free labor market all the way, even if that means people living in poverty.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

They’re going to enslave most of us, just watch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

or workforce.

Not even.

They're constantly trying to find ways to reduce staff to the absolute minimum.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I drove to a friend to Kansas last year for an abortion. I still don't know if it was mine. Either way if those services weren't available then she would have suffered tremendously by having that baby. As badly as I wanted that baby to be mine it didn't matter in the end because it's her body not mine. It's a simple as that and fuck anyone that wants to take those rights away

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

You did the right thing.

Can't have a child grow up in poor circumstances.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

You did the right thing, I feel for you both.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You all voted for this shit.

If you stayed home then you voted for this shit.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think you will be hard pressed to find Republicans on Lemmy. There might be some, but not that many.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

They didn't get more votes we provided less votes. There are absolutely US citizens on here that did not vote. This was clearly on the table. This is going to hurt, people are going to die, and we need to learn. You simply can't let somebody like that get voted in under those circumstances and then expect to be able to resist.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And how many democrats stayed home on Election Day?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Trump bragged about Elon rigging the election for him.

How many actually did stay home?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Anyone who believes the election was rigged is stupid as fuck. So when he lost it was rigged. And now that he won, rigged? So it’s rigged no matter if he wins or loses?

Bro, just admit you got played like a fiddle. They convinced you to stay home and not vote because you fell for the bait like all the rest of the lemmings.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Interesting assumption to make based on my comment. Also an interesting belief to have that because Republicans, who are quite known for projection, spent four years crying wolf it means they can't have committed fraud themselves.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I voted for Harris to try to prevent these horrors out of harm reduction.

But the Neoliberals haven't given us anything to vote for for half a century.

Good cop neoliberals with affirmation ribbons/bad cop Fascists with scapegoats, both for human beings dying in the streets for the crime of no longer being able capitalist exploitation livestock in droves as a threat to laborers to produce for their shared donors.

A vote for democrats is a vote for quiet slaughter, a vote for Republicans is a vote for loud, braggadocious slaughter. We don't get a vote for peace. We don't get a vote on the economy. Only the social wedges that don't meaningfully effect quarterly earnings expectations.

Luigi tried showing us who our shared enemy is, and it isn't their revolving door middle managers in DC.

[–] [email protected] 144 points 3 days ago (18 children)

Ok states rights crowd, fuck around and find out with my states constitutional protection of abortion.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago (10 children)

I'm really curious how California will handle that one. I would expect Newsom to fall in line as part of the protected class, but he is a politician and cares about reelection.

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"Pro Women’s Healthcare"

😡😡😡😡😡😡

Fucking propagandists

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Something straight out of 1984. When I read the novel in high school I was naive enough to believe it would never be reflected irl to quite this degree.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (6 children)

The more accurate analogy would be The Handmaiden’s Tale.

Absolutely terrifying. And once the underground railroads fire up to bring women refugees to Canada, I’ll do my part to help.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

They aren't really off with 1984. "The ministry of peace" being the department of war and all that. Pro Women's health actually being anti women's health.

It's so gross...

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Currently this abortion info/help community seems defunct, but it might be worth trying to revive in some manner. I don’t have time right this moment, but it’s something I’ll look into helping with in the near future (like next week):

https://lemmy.ml/c/auntienetwork

(I’m not sure how linking on Lemmy works yet, so hopefully that comes through ok.)

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

For anyone that needs this information, you can (currently) order abortion medicine online in any state. I did it today and it was stupid easy to do. I'm not pregnant, but I wanted to order some as a just-in-case for myself or others.

The Plan C website has a great list of websites you can order from if you're not pregnant. It costs about $150 and some offer financial assistance if you need it. But please do it NOW.

I ordered one from Aid access and one from safe choice. Both asked a few questions that didn't ask for personal information or ID. They mostly just need an email, address to send it, and a credit/debit card to pay.

Good luck out there everyone.

Edit: just to clarify I'm not talking about plan B. I'm talking about medication meant to induce an abortion at up to 13 weeks of gestation. mifepristone and misoprostol specifically.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

I’m a woman who does not have sex with men but I got myself plan b just in case of emergency like a rape.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 days ago (56 children)

yes. elections have consequences. republicans haven't been coy about wanted to outlaw abortion nationwide at the federal level. enough democrats didn't vote in the last election (mostly young people for whom these bans will effect the most, and cause the most harm) to ensure republicans now control ever branch of united states government, the legislative (both house of congress), the judicial (doj and the supreme court), and executive (the presidency). that's a clean sweep, and a wide pipe for the monsters to do just about anything they want to. congratulations.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Admittedly didn’t read the whole thing but this looks like they want to pay for pro-life centers everywhere. I don’t see anything about restricting care, except for scamming people into walking into a pro-life center pretending to be a medical center.

Even today’s partisan court has to balk at government spending money on something that appears to be religion based, right? Right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Remember, it's not pro-life, it's anti-choice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

We need a better term, since it’s not entirely anti-choice. It’s “your body, my choice”

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well....now guys, we must not have sex with women. We should have clubs where we help each other thru the power of masturbation.

We're doing this for you women! And we're chopping our balls off...America's got talent never heard notes as high as we'll have in the next few years!

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean, if a nation wants to fight a big war within 15 years, first they need to grow soldiers, right?

if they ban abortion and then set up a pipeline from orphanages to army then you get a lot of jackboots in 15ish years

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't think the US flights ground wars. We're more about drones now. I'm thinking this is cheap labor for the farms once we kick out the foreigners.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

And certainly not with 15 year old kids

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago

"abortion pill reversal" sounded like bullshit to me, so I looked it up.

Here's what ACOG has to say: Facts Are Important: Medication Abortion "Reversal" Is Not Supported by Science

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That’s it! In getting sterilized.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

The booklet has the "encouraged" procedures section where they state "sterilization reversal" which is just wild

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