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[–] [email protected] 2 points 33 minutes ago

Well too be fair, Lawrence of Arabia tapped into existing resentment up forment his revolt

There's always been differing interests in the middle east, whether it's religious, ethnic or something else. To say otherwise takes away from the agency of the people living there

[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Not disagreeing that the US does a lot of fuckery in the middle east but I think it's ultimately the UK that started the mess.

EDIT: West Texas is pretty empty. Israel can have it all.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

That mess is older than even the UK. The Ottoman Empire cobbled together peoples who didn’t have anything to do with each other way earlier.

Random Youtube video that I’m parrotting without double-checking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN4mnVLP0rU

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

The Ottomans were quite permissive of other cultures, you just has to pay higher tax as a non-muslim, but they left you in peace.

After the British conspired to incite uprisings in the Ottomans, that's when they came down hard on their subjects to quell any further uprisings (it didn't work)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Youtube videos are a disaster in historical accuracy.

The Ottoman empire was stable. They had beef with Armenia. But that only turned into the Armenian genocide after the Turks turned secular.

The empire was not a beacon of wealth but it was nothing like the crackpot the middle east has turned into since British and French colonialism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

I still think its fair to blame whoever is responsible for allowing the current Israel to be founded. Just should not have happened.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

God didn't give the Jews Utah, they got from the Nile in Egypt to the Euphrates in Iraq. So say the magic scrolls.

Which should pretty much be understood as the Zionist goal to claim as the lands of Israel. They will not stop until they have it. They will keep doing incremental land grabs after wars that they goad others into starting, as they have done with Palestine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Regardless of whether the magic scrolls were ever the reason, they aren’t now, at least not for many Jews. Most Jews aren’t even really religious. The magic scrolls are a rationalization, an excuse, not a reason. The reason is Western settler-colonialism.

Many American gentile Zionists are religious though.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Missing a few flags there.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The vast majority of earths problems can be traced back to the brits. Including America.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

British financiers who turned reasonable banking practices into speculative stock market bullshit, which created our "endless growth" economy and basically necessitated the natural resources colonialism brought in

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago

There have been continual problems in the middle east for thousands of years before the USA existed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

Why not Germany?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

This is a shit shitpost.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

Because the Mormons took the land from the natives 'first'.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

"After a long and exhaustive investigation we found that we did nothing wrong"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It would be nice to see the genocidal religions being squarely blamed rather than the nations that are infested with them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

hint: its all of them

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Judging by the downvotes, a lot of Lemmitors have no idea how the world works. Just living in the Marvel Cinematic Universe—must be nice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Counter productive and hypocritical to put people into convenient groups like that to shield your opinions against any form of criticism. Well done, you've earned a block.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago

same reason theres no sunday 'day of the week' panties. because god

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