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I'll start, I missed the outdoor cats struggle session so i don't know what its deal was except a vague idea that outdoor cats were bad, so I've let my two cats stay being outdoor cats because I feel bad locking them inside, like I want to give them some experience of freedom to go where they please so they can live more fulfilling lives

Edit: also kruschev is imo a lot better than most hexbear users give him credit for

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

I hate the quote "the master's tools will never dismantle the master's house." I am positive I can demolish his house with his killdozer.

EDIT: I'm pretty sure I got yelled at the last time I posted this lol.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Hell yea, new tagline

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The best struggle sessions need to not be so important that they might split the site (unless getting rid of the reactionaries is the point), but also not so unimportant that nobody will give a shit.

It also needs to be something that people will have a personal opinion on, so like "Should we have critical support of this small party from 1952 in Liechtenstein" probably won't bring engagement because nobody knows anything about it.

And finally, it should be something that hasn't been debated to death already in the mainstream, so that people aren't already tired of talking about it.

so the outdoor/indoor cat thing was purrfect. outdoor cats do have very real-world consequences on species but aren't like, a driving cause of ecological destruction unlike capitalists, people have opinions on it because many are cat owners or know cat owners, and it wasn't something all over the news already.

my only real idea is "Nuclear energy: good or bad?" but that's been a public debate for decades now

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (15 children)

What about wearing shoes indoors? That's always a good one because people who haven't done it before don't know it breaks down heavily based on region and climate and culture, so they yell past each other for a long time.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

The only time it's not stupid to wear shoes indoors is if your floor is already filthy

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Can we do "please use a washcloth in the shower?"

I think it has the potential to really annoy the core audience here, and also gives room for loofah posting.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'll bite: why? its just another rag that I'll have to run through the wash every like 2 days

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Because actually using a wet cloth to scrub something gets it cleaner than just putting soap on it then rinsing. If you think you're doing a good job scrubbing with your fingers, you aren't getting nearly as much coverage as you'd get in half the time with a rag.

also exfoliation.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

tbf i don't shower hardly at all because i don't smell bad

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

This one is genius. It's genius because people can be mildly offended by it, and need to retort to defend their honor. "What, you're saying my body is grubby all the time?" "Of course I wash my washcloth after every use!" "No my bathroom is not infested with bacteria!" I'll be back in a couple of hours to check how it's going antelope-popcorn

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look, I can wash you with a cloth to reenact me, a peasant, preparing you, a mighty warrior, for battle, however, you will not moist cloth me while my body is being showered.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Car batteries should be thrown in the ocean!!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Everyone agreed on this one though.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (23 children)

We could do male circumcision, that's usually nice and contentious.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope it's not here. I got rugburn on my glans last week and it sucked.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

except a vague idea that outdoor cats were bad

??!?

monke-rage

Repeat this 72691 times and you have the cat struggle session.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And if you don't have a strong opinion either way both sides will agree you are in fact the biggest centrist liberal to ever live.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

I don't judge outdoor cat havers, but it makes me sad thinking about how likely they are to get hit by cars or have a bad coyote encountermeow-cactus

Not having them eating birds is also nice too

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (5 children)

ACAB includes spins wheel dictionaries. Prescriptivist spelling is classist.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Compulsory public school is a topic that could easily turn into a struggle session.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll get us started: compulsory public education in a capitalist society is prone to child abuse. It's where imperial propaganda gets ingrained and where people who want power over children have unlimited access to control them.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being anti-public education is literally a fascist talking point and one that's dangerously popular with US conservatives already. Public education is far from perfect, but removing resources will make every single problem with it worse. Besides, teacher's unions are one of the last viable union careers.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Teachers are cops and being pro teacher is pro cop. Literally if you try to refuse public school as a child, violent enforcement will be threatened and eventually called if you don't confirm.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Public education is one of the basic principles of any socialist program. Public education was one of the very first things the USSR and Cuba did. Uneducated people fall easier to propaganda.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

We can restart the struggle session about when 17 year old children make one big bad decision and that makes them irredeemable for life no matter what end of story. That was a fun struggle session. It's extra fun because it's also a far right wing view depending on the mistake, so it gets everyone upset

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I saw "17 year old" and I instantly remembered the "power dynamics" struggle sesh

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I tried to have one about Nicolas Maduro the other day but no one was brave enough to weigh in:

https://hexbear.net/post/353817

please guys 0 comments hurts

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (5 children)

the problem with this one is that all the libs/chuds have the biggest opinions. it's hard to struggle over "he's fine, the US should leave Venezuela alone"

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think dogs should be allowed to stay outside all day provided they have shelter and lots of water.

idk I'm trying to think of a really good one but I can't come up with anything.

How about "Reading Marx is revisionist because Socialism is supposed to be scientific and relying too much on a "golden age" of theory is akin to reactionary thinking"? Is that anything?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Ooh that could be a good one. Could also just have the revisionism one, since almost nobody agrees where the line is there, it's like arguing with people anywhere between Idaho and Missouri what "midwest" means.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Revisionism is when I don't like other communists, and the more I don't like them the more revisionist they are.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think we should relegalize indoor smoking.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hell yeah, I can work with this.

I will literally constrict my own ravioli and become anerobic before I tolerate living in niccotine hell again!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think Covid & climate induced wildfires have caused a real shift in the perception of air quality. In that we've all realized its really shit. CO² levels alone in crowded buildings commonly exceed thresholds recognized to cause minor cognitive deficits. Even in hospital settings most modern buildings have a pretty pathetic exchange & filtration rate with the outside air, and thats saying nothing of the basically non-existant regulations on other public or communal spaces.

Modern society requires drastic retrofits and rebuildings to basically everywhere to have decent quality air. Under global communism there will be robust enough filtration systems to let me smoke a fat blunt at Kroger.

Edit:Also diner food hits different when the cook gets ash in the pan. You just dont get it.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (10 children)

no more half measures walter

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No no let's combine them.

Anyone that isn't vegan isn't a real Lemming and we should defederate from them.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

so I've let my two cats stay being outdoor cats

you are liberal, its terminal kitty-birthday-sad

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

The struggle session I'm always ready for: When are reactionaries deserving of death rather than a chance at rehabilitation?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (8 children)

She was just doing what the unions wanted

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