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I'll start, I missed the outdoor cats struggle session so i don't know what its deal was except a vague idea that outdoor cats were bad, so I've let my two cats stay being outdoor cats because I feel bad locking them inside, like I want to give them some experience of freedom to go where they please so they can live more fulfilling lives

Edit: also kruschev is imo a lot better than most hexbear users give him credit for

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being anti-public education is literally a fascist talking point and one that's dangerously popular with US conservatives already. Public education is far from perfect, but removing resources will make every single problem with it worse. Besides, teacher's unions are one of the last viable union careers.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Teachers are cops and being pro teacher is pro cop. Literally if you try to refuse public school as a child, violent enforcement will be threatened and eventually called if you don't confirm.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Public education is one of the basic principles of any socialist program. Public education was one of the very first things the USSR and Cuba did. Uneducated people fall easier to propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Okay those are socialist societies. Under capitalism capitalist propaganda is taught. I'm for public education, but not forcing it. Tell me how you can justify using violence on a literal child so they can learn how great slaveowners were and how to be a good working peon.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't even realise it was the same user arguing back and forth with themselves lmao

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

I think they both made great points.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

@ the upvote ratio of you vs. you susie-laugh

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

it took me a second data-laughing

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm glad I noticed what was going on before I embarrassed myself by trying to argue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think there are valid arguments to make if you wanna get down.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is an all time bit, had me fully staring at my screen like :foucault-madness:

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but look at he numbers. They don't educate us here. Most people are functionally illeterate. See? I can't even spell illeterate

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Literally if you try to refuse public school as a child, violent enforcement will be threatened and eventually called if you don't confirm.

Not being glib here, but is that bad? I think the world would be a much worse place if certain children were just allowed to op-out of education in a tantrum.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

'School should be optional' is a half step from 'bedtimes are authoritarian'.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The question is what would opting out of education look like? Homeschool is not great, certainly doesn't work for poor people. Same with private school. Does this child just stay at home while their parents work? Do they get no education? Do we let YouTube teach them everything?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I propose we allow children to opt out of traditional education to train an ensemble of starcraft geniuses so we can watch them compete.