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I'll get us started: compulsory public education in a capitalist society is prone to child abuse. It's where imperial propaganda gets ingrained and where people who want power over children have unlimited access to control them.
Being anti-public education is literally a fascist talking point and one that's dangerously popular with US conservatives already. Public education is far from perfect, but removing resources will make every single problem with it worse. Besides, teacher's unions are one of the last viable union careers.
Teachers are cops and being pro teacher is pro cop. Literally if you try to refuse public school as a child, violent enforcement will be threatened and eventually called if you don't confirm.
Public education is one of the basic principles of any socialist program. Public education was one of the very first things the USSR and Cuba did. Uneducated people fall easier to propaganda.
Okay those are socialist societies. Under capitalism capitalist propaganda is taught. I'm for public education, but not forcing it. Tell me how you can justify using violence on a literal child so they can learn how great slaveowners were and how to be a good working peon.
Didn't even realise it was the same user arguing back and forth with themselves lmao
I think they both made great points.
@ the upvote ratio of you vs. you
it took me a second
I'm glad I noticed what was going on before I embarrassed myself by trying to argue.
I think there are valid arguments to make if you wanna get down.
This is an all time bit, had me fully staring at my screen like :foucault-madness:
Yeah, but look at he numbers. They don't educate us here. Most people are functionally illeterate. See? I can't even spell illeterate
Not being glib here, but is that bad? I think the world would be a much worse place if certain children were just allowed to op-out of education in a tantrum.
'School should be optional' is a half step from 'bedtimes are authoritarian'.
The question is what would opting out of education look like? Homeschool is not great, certainly doesn't work for poor people. Same with private school. Does this child just stay at home while their parents work? Do they get no education? Do we let YouTube teach them everything?
I propose we allow children to opt out of traditional education to train an ensemble of starcraft geniuses so we can watch them compete.