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Like in terms of climate change, political climate, wars, etc. soviet-bashful

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Cuba. They survived the 90's they can survive anything

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They're not in the best spot climate change wise though. The DPRK would probably fare better.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I support a Cuban “Israel” project by handing them North Dakota

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Nah give them Vancouver Island.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Give them all of Florida. It's similar climate, more land, and will make gusano heads explode.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Iceland may lose some surface area due to rising seas, but warmer climates will probably create more farmland on the rich volcanic soil. They can probably maintain a modest quality of life for a very long time cut off from the rest of the world like Cuba, but without the increasing number and severity of tropical storms every year

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The gulf stream collapsing means that anything above the 30th parallel will be covered in meters of ice in a matter of years, iceland will be one of the first to fall to it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

this is complete bs by the way it's not nearly as simple as the Gulf Stream being the only factor keeping northern europe more temperate, it probably won't collapse in "a matter of years" so much as a matter of decades or centuries, and the cooling effect that has will likely be offset by other factors such as an ice-free Arctic no longer acting to limit heating of the northern oceans

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Omgv yes please i want to freeze to death instead of sweat

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

i don't think anyone has a good idea what will actually happen from that, it seems very silly to suggest it'd be worse than climes on similar latitude without a gulf stream. Russian east & Canada are cold but they aren't unlivable---and they're becoming warmer like everywhere

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

iceland's where the billionaires who are too racist for new zealand will build their bunkers, it's fucked

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

be cool if they build those bunkers over a rising mantle plume

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

wait till they see my People's Welding Torch

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Iceland is full of snowy barbarians that know no civilization, hope you like running around in a loin cloth and eating stinky fish. oh and there's no shade on account that the beggards cut down all their trees, not even for anything cool just lots of boats to go get more stinky fish

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Frozen snow and ice melting has actually caused Iceland to rise a bit as an island as the weight on it decreases

So it's actually gaining land

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thinking about things out of your control all the time is going to make you stressful You are not a decision maker or a seer you can't know or control the future

Text a friend to grab a drink or watch a movie is much more useful than thinking about this thing

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that's probably right and I do try to not think too much about these things😵‍💫, but I do hope to leave my home country some day, so I need a target country to work towards in the meantime😅

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

My bet is on DPRK.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Aren't all the billionaires moving to Aotearoa/NZ?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

China without a single microsecond of hesitation

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I will convert myself into a virus and then upload myself to collective humanity. After humanity has advanced enough to re-materialize me from my distributed form I will have transferred myself into our glorious future of luxury gay space communism.

Edit: This reminds me of Pham Nuwen's swarm form in the Zones of Thought trilogy.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Popular Korea is eternal. Sorry China stans

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The ones that have practiced Autarky for decades. They won't have luxury, but they will weather the storm.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean? DPRK, Cuba, Rojava, Sentinel Island, and so forth. Pockets where people rely majorly on domestic production, even if they have trade with other countries, will be better off than countries that focus on foreign trade and production.

There are no perfectly isolated countries, but the ones that are more self-reliant will survive better.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

best of luck moving to sentinel island

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

That's not what I was suggesting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I just want to vibe in the jungle but my friends keep shooting arrows at my boat :(

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

China has existed for 10,000 years so I'll go with that.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

the principality of sealand

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Canada could win climate change.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Until the US inevitably annexes it :(

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

:uncle-sam-shining:

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I can't tell if you are serious. The country is so far up north and more than two thirds of the people live close to the US border.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Isn't the point that global warming could make a lot more of the country liveable? Same with Russia, climate change could potentially turn frozen tundra into usable land.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

climate change could potentially turn frozen tundra into usable land.

Not really unfortunately. It will be warm enough to live there more comfortably, but the land isn't very usable compared to where people live now. Most of the tundra has very thin rocky soil and it is waterlogged and swampy. Just because it is warmer there doesn't mean the actual ground becomes like the soil farther south

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Isn’t de-thawed permafrost really good for growing food tho? Besides the y’know possible disease and shit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

We don't know what's trapped inside the permafrost, as it thaws we might unleash some sort of super bacteria or even worse, the Reagan/Thatcher blood amalgam trapped beneath trapped below

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

The horrors of our cyberpunk future, where the Reagan flu or Thatcher cough take you…

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Idk, from a nutrients/chemical standpoint probably? The issue is that there's like an inch of two of it over bedrock, instead of feet worth of good topsoil. There just isn't enough of it to grow food on the scale we do now with current methods. Not to say any of that is technically impossible, just that it would be a massive megaproject the likes of which humanity has rarely seen

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

That’s true… might happen that they pool all the permafrost earth into areas for farming. But indeed, a megaproject for the ages.

Probably the grasslands in Russia would be easier to manage. Just get a bunch of megafauna to stamp and poop around for a decade or two.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

It's not that simple. Sunlight is still an issue because that'll still limit the growing season and the soil itself is extremely poor.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

No it couldn't. The soil in the vast majority of Canada is shit/nonexistent. The good soil is in the southern parts of the country and already being farmed. The northern parts are all bedrock with a thin layer of pine needles sprinkled on top. Good luck growing anything on that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

that global warming could make a lot more of the country liveable?

Global warming was melting roads in Canada like 2 years ago

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Maybe. I didn't think about this angle.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago
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