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[–] [email protected] 408 points 4 months ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 269 points 4 months ago (35 children)

I was gonna say she's too young, but apparently she'd turn 35 about a month before the election. A president who's barely old enough... What a nice change of pace that would be.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago (6 children)

That requirement is so ageist as the brain is fully developed at age 26

[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 months ago (16 children)

The idea is to have some experience in politics in lower positions before taking on the hot seat.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I feel like mandating a certain number of years in some managerial governmental position would be more effective. Trump is basically a living example of how to get around that. Honestly a lot of democracy kinda assumes people elect competent and honest leaders and a lot of humanity are just brainwashed morons so we're stuck with what we got :/.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago

That's a great point. AOC has more experience than Trump did when elected.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm just upset that there's no maximum age limit. If they are fine with a minimum why isn't there a maximum?

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago (9 children)

It's stupid that there's a minimum and not a maximum

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago

Getting so old your brain starts melting was less of an issue back then.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

True. There's this fun quirk of US law, though, that makes ageism against young people completely fine and dandy!

You can discriminate against people for being young all you want. That's the Gerontocracy in action..

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago

Honestly, if two 80-plus year old farts can run for president, who gives a shit about age?

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 months ago

She's pretty badass.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (8 children)

My worry about AOC as candidate is that she's relatively alone in her political space, and is far from having Bernie's weight as of today. She's in the Democratic party, sure, but she's in a very small faction inside of it, which may lead to a Corbyn situation: she takes the helm of the party, but centrist figures begin attacking her from her own ranks with the support of the media until she's forced to concede to a moderate.

On the other hand, if you manage to get 100, 200 elected representatives in the Democratic party who are clearly ideologically aligned with AOC, making her the nominee is no longer a battle, but rather, it becomes the natural consequence of the balance of power within the party.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago

Only 50 more years till she'll be considered

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Biden should pick her up as a running mate. So she'll just automatically be president if Biden dies. You'll see conservatives doing their level best to ensure Biden is in the best of health.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Only issue is she’s a divisive figure so center shitters might be driven to vote for trump. I think she’s awesome and would love if she was the first woman pres

[–] [email protected] 67 points 4 months ago (3 children)

A huge part of the poor youth vote attendance is due to them not feeling represented by geriatric nominees. If she were to run she would get very strong youth and minority support in addition to all the left voters.

TBH it would be a dream come true for her to run and win this year and I'm not even American.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

Trump and Biden are also divisive figures which is why this is even a discussion to begin with. We need to end the status quo immediately.

[–] [email protected] 215 points 4 months ago (7 children)

I'm voting for Biden. Not happily, not even simply neutral on the matter. I hate that I have to vote for Biden.

If AOC ran, I would not be even a little reluctant to vote for her. She reminds me of Bernie.

[–] [email protected] 141 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I’m voting for the Biden administration. It’s more than just him. We need them all.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And the possible seats on SCOTUS

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago

I’m voting the same way but more because we need to not have the other administration, we need much more that the current admin but we also do not have the luxury of being picky

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[–] [email protected] 135 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Fuck yeah. Probably won't go anywhere with a traitorous house majority but it's worth it to try and get them on the record.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Just today I read that Clarence Thomas accepted a yacht trip to Russia. There's a huge air of corruption around him and I've heard people are calling for him to step down.

https://lemmy.world/post/17424787

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And it was from 2003. So he’s been taking this shit forever and not reporting it.

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[–] [email protected] 127 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wow, someone in Congress with a backbone. Nice to see.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I am still hoping for the day to see someone of the same party convict a politician.

If anyone has any cases I'd love a link!

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 4 months ago (3 children)

AOC from NYC is the MVP in DC.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 months ago (13 children)

If you're going to do the thing with replacing Biden as the candidate, you couldn't get better than AOC, who will be 35 before November.

I personally think replacing Biden this late is a bad move even though I already think Biden sucks. But I grit my teeth and voted for the fucker just like I did with Clinton, because the alternative is literally insanity and fascism. I just don't realsitically seeing the party coalesce around anyone new at the last minute. Organizing Democrats is like herding cats, being a big tent party sucks noodles.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 months ago (10 children)

Just keep repeating, Biden may not be the best, but his administration has been fantastic!

In comparison to the other party... Not just Biden you are voting for the administration. Supreme court justices Which affect everyday life!

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Lets all hold our breath while we wait for something to actually happen because of this.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 4 months ago (4 children)

It’s a public repudiation in a way that is extraordinarily rare and highly symbolic. Nothing may change but shots have been fired across bows.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 4 months ago

I still appreciate that its happening.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (13 children)

This will go nowhere. Oh, wait. I forgot that I live in a fake democracy. Sad face.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are we pretending impeachment does something useful again?

[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 months ago (4 children)

If you assume it never will again, then you've been defeated

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (9 children)

Wasn't trump impeached twice? What does this even mean concretely?
Not knocking the sentiment, just questioning the practicality

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Put simply, an impeachment happens in the House of Representatives and is akin to an indictment by Grand Jury. If successful, the proceeding then moves to the Senate for trial, where the party is either convicted or acquitted. A conviction would mean removal from office and the possibility of facing criminal charges.

Trump was impeached twice, but he was not convicted either time.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago

AOC might make me a Democrat again.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I wish there was a way to get rid of corrupt judges at the highest level that wasn't a political process. I never understood the lifetime appointments anyway. It hasn't done anything to keep them from being partisan.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago

Fantastic, I know this probably won't go anywhere but this is the right thing to do regardless. SCOTUS needs to be held accountable to the American people for their actions. We grant them extraordinary power and that must come with extraordinary accountability. Holding them to a lower standard than any judge in a lesser court is ridiculous. The higher the court, the higher the standards should be.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Well, she is trying her best at least to do* her job.

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