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Iran has struck Israel.

previous preambleThe continuing fall of the remains of the British Empire is pretty entertaining from the outside: an archaic royal family that is seemingly being smote with disease by God itself for their past crimes; a navy that virtually no longer functions, ramming into foreign ports and under constant repair; and an economy that cannot seem to stop sputtering, fucked whether they're in the EU or outside it. Watching the impacts on people from the inside is a little more worrying, though.

A fifth of the population is in poverty, including nearly a third of all children. These figures have barely shifted since the Labour government in the early 2000s, aside from a decreasing poverty rate for pensioners. Actually, poverty hasn't substantially shifted since Margaret Thatcher. Before her, the poverty rate was around 14%, but her catastrophic policies caused a major increase, and poverty levels since then are still 50% higher than over 50 years ago, because neoliberal economic policy since then has not fundamentally changed. Parties and corporations have impoverished the usual vulnerable groups, such as large families, minority ethnic groups (including half of Pakistani and Bangladeshi households!) and disabled people. These differences are also regional, with the North more impoverished than the richer Southeast (but some of the poorest boroughs are in London, so it's a complex pattern).

With Corbyn's defeat in 2019 mere months before the pandemic began, the Labour Party shifted back towards the right, with left-wingers purged from the party if they did not kowtow to Keir Starmer. This leaves us with a situation where the only substantial difference between the two parties would be on social policy, but it goes without saying that economic policy is the overwhelming factor that determines if minorities can have a decent life. Worker-oriented movements since then have been largely not under the umbrella of major party leaderships, such as the Don't Pay movement in late 2022 that arose in the wake of dramatically rising energy prices where 3 million people vowed to not pay them (which did lead to results).

Most notably recently is the major upset in the constituency of Rochdale - the victory of George Galloway - who is the leader of the Workers Party of Britain, which describes itself as both socialist and socially conservative. This took place both in the context of aforementioned economic troubles, as well as anger over Israel's genocide of Gaza in the British population, especially in British Muslims. It remains to be seen how much of this is an isolated event, especially as Corbyn has, understandably, refused to collaborate with Galloway due to his socially conservative stances. The UK general election will be held at some point within the next 9 months or so, and might well be a shitshow depending on what happens domestically and geopolitically before then; parallels to the current American electoral shitshow with increasing anger over Biden are pretty apparent. The Conservatives are quite likely to lose given 14 years of uninspired rule if current polling is correct, but it truly is a race to the bottom.


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[–] [email protected] 80 points 6 months ago (16 children)

Iran signals it will limit response to Israel attack to avoid escalation

Incredible how responding to an attack on your consulate and the assassination of a senior official is painted as a serious escalation but the actual incident is just cool and good de-escalation and part of the Rules-Based Order^tm

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 6 months ago (15 children)

NHS just announced the cancellation of all trans healthcare appointments for under 18s and it's putting over 18s "under review". Given the context I expect this to be a build up to trying to cancel all trans healthcare.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/long-read/nhs-englands-response-to-the-final-report-of-the-independent-review-of-gender-identity-services-for-children-and-young-people/

  1. NHS England has already announced that it is bringing forward its review of the adult service specifications, and we have written to the Chief Executives of the organisations that host the GDCs to inform them that this will be undertaken in the context of a broader, systemic review of the operation and delivery of the GDCs. NHS England will provide more detail very soon, but we envisage it will be informed by the deployment of external quality improvement experts into the services. In view of your advice about the need for caution in the initiation of medical interventions for young people under 18 years of age, our letter instructs the adult gender clinics to implement a pause on offering first appointments to young people below their 18th birthday.This letter also makes clear that NHS England expects full cooperation from the GDCs in the delivery of the data linkage study, on which we have corresponded separately.
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[–] [email protected] 80 points 6 months ago

China: Global Times newspaper: Iran responded with strategic intelligence, with missiles and drones, successfully destroying major military targets in “Israel.”

[–] [email protected] 80 points 6 months ago

Amerifat brainrotted dem voters when Putin wins an election with 99% of the vote matt

Genocide-supporting Russiagate facebook minion-posters when Israel intercepts 99% of the Iranian drones mattjak

[–] [email protected] 80 points 6 months ago (3 children)

>Come out of a 4 hour long Vicky 3 game with friends

>Open up firefox as I don't need extra RAM anymore

>Open Hexbear

>500+ new comments on the News Mega

:good-lord: explosion

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Now that Iran actually retaliated, western media is now running alternating articles that say Israel is preparing to immediately strike Iran and that Israel is actually not going to do anything further. This makes the week-to-decade conversion rate very unstable for now.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

For any of you confused as to why Trump supporters were changing "Genocide Joe" at a Trump rally, some of that is just wanting to meme on the libs, but a lot of that is also the Tucker crowd. He's been dishing out some criticism of Israel, specifically around it's treatment of Christians, that has pissed a lot of the Republican neoliberals off. Also Fox News has been using the moniker more lately.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Reason - FBI Agent Says He Hassles People 'Every Day, All Day Long' Over Facebook Posts [29/03/2024]

The FBI spends "every day, all day long" interrogating people over their Facebook posts. At least, that's what agents told Stillwater, Oklahoma, resident Rolla Abdeljawad when they showed up at her house to ask her about her social media activity. Three FBI agents came to Abdeljawad's house and said that they had been given "screenshots" of her posts by Facebook. Her lawyer Hassan Shibly posted a video of the incident online on Wednesday.

Abdeljawad told agents that she didn't want to talk and asked them to show their badges on camera, which the agents refused to do. She wrote on Facebook that she later confirmed with local police that the FBI agents really were FBI agents. "Facebook gave us a couple of screenshots of your account," one agent in a gray shirt said in the video.

"So we no longer live in a free country and we can't say what we want?" replied Abdeljawad.

"No, we totally do. That's why we're not here to arrest you or anything," a second agent in a red shirt added. "We do this every day, all day long. It's just an effort to keep everybody safe and make sure nobody has any ill will."

Abdeljawad's Facebook timeline is public, so the FBI agents could have found it themselves. For the past week, she has made multiple angry posts per day about the war in Gaza, referring to Israel as "Israhell." But none of the posts on her feed call for violence.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 6 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 80 points 6 months ago

looks like Iran is next in line for not receiving any explanation for America's lack of healthcare despite the promises of bloodthirsty angloids

[–] [email protected] 79 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Impacts in the Ramon airbase near Eilat, in southern Israel, which is protected by patriot defense systems. Israel has called for an emergency meeting of the UN

Iran's retaliation is now over, damage assessments will show the real extent of the destruction. Iran has made it clear: If Israel responds, they will receive an attack much larger and more powerful than this.

Algeria praised Iran for its attack, and pledged its support. Iranian Media: 'The myth of the invincible Zionist entity has been shattered, and with this, we have only showed them a fraction of our might'

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This headline made me laugh.

US wants advanced notice should Israel attack Iran – report

CNN reports that US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has asked his counterpart Yoav Gallant to give Washington a heads up before Israel attacks Iran, should it go that route. The request was made when the two spoke Saturday evening, CNN reports.

Source timesofisrael.com. That's the entire "article". I love how they used "CNN reports" twice.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

Israelis react after Iran launches drone and missile strikes

every single "Israeli" in this video has either a NY or English accent. one guy is named Jeremy Smith. just incredible stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 6 months ago

Brazil ends all contracts with Elon Musk's Starlink after he refused to censor users on X. Elon Musk says "Starlink will provide free Internet for schools in Brazil if the government won't honor their contract."

Good news indeed for environmentalists. Elon Musk sold this crap not to be used by schools, but by illegal miners. Bolsonaro openly gave them to miners who were invading indigenous lands. Elon Musk did nothing to ensure that Starlink would be used for education.

By cutting this off, the illegal miners will have no Internet connection and no way of communicating, which will leave them stranded in the deep Amazon jungle.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 77 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The Economist reports that Israel expected Iran not to retaliate, and that they are now forced to retaliate in turn

I find the Economist an interesting source since it's closer to what US elites are actually feeling. Even as this article admits that war is probably coming, it is couched in the same propaganda they feed the proles, and it becomes difficult for even the leadership to tell reality from imperialist fiction.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 6 months ago (11 children)

the DoD pulling an all nighter

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 6 months ago (6 children)

CNN, citing an American official: US President Joe Biden informed Netanyahu that the United States will not participate in any offensive operations against Iran Biden told Netanyahu that he should consider tonight's events a 'win' for Israel – CNN

Biden told Netanyahu that he should consider tonight's events a 'win' for Israel – CNN

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 6 months ago (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 76 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Iran had every reason to act. Attacking an embassy and acting like it's no big deal sends a bad message to everyone. Genghis Khan wiped out Central Asia for killing his diplomats—it shows how seriously countries take diplomatic rules. It's basic respect between nations.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Israeli Channel 12 indicates that Israel will respond militarily to Iran in the next 24 hours.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 6 months ago

if the UN was based they should state to Israel that "so we aren't hamas now?"

Unfortunately they are headed by spineless liberals,, felt bad for the 150 UN employees who got killed by Zionists.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 6 months ago (3 children)

⚡️BREAKING: ABC News per U.S. officials on Iran’s attack:

🔻4 ballistic missiles hit Ramon Air Base

🔻5 ballistic missiles hit Nevatim Air Base

https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1779617878762729660

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Nicaragua v. Germany #ICJ #Germany Germany’s agent weakens case by admitting that Holocaust guilt is the overriding consideration in putting Israel’s security beyond other normative imperatives. This “raison d’etat” (her words) of Israel’s security above all else vs intl law.

https://x.com/howserob/status/1777609769861136652

something has to be done about deutSSchland, this is insane

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 6 months ago (3 children)

can we start doing this every night?

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Couple of thoughts about what happened (and happens):

1 - "Israel" is open to attacks. Not only they'll have to be careful with Hezbollah in the north and they fully understand Iran is capable of striking them at any time. Their false sense of security is going to slowly fade away, which in turn might probably make their leadership and radical elements of society even more unhinged. Here is when the internal contradictions within the Zionist entity are going to show themselves.

2 - Iran successfully struck "Israel" despite the absolute lack of the element of surprise. "Israel" had plenty of time to prepare for any scenario, and still they failed to fully protect their assets. Despite their "Iron Dome", all the support they get from the comprador countries around them and of course, the US and the UK -- Iran still managed to sneak through and score numerous hits.

3 - Iran announced their attack and delivered an attack. They gambled, they knew if their attack was stopped they would have been ridiculed. But they went forwards with it and delivered an iconic missile and drone package on "Israel".

4 - Speaking of iconic. Pro-"Israel" and pro-genocide fucks are too quick to jump into the "let's look at the numbers" course to minimize Iran's assault. And yes, while material damage doesn't seem to be too big, it doesn't really have to. You just have to listen to the people cheering on the missiles as they flew past to understand the nature and effect of this attack, it is there to make people understand Iran can strike back. You got the pictures, you got the videos, such as the one where you hear the sirens and see the missiles flying above Al Aqsa Mosque and descending to strike at the Zionist targets, that is going to circulate through the Muslim World over and over again, it's their own Epic is in the making. As excessively white westerners say: It's a propaganda victory. If Iran wanted to do some real damage, a huge (and I mean HUGE) coordinated attack between Iran and it's regional allies would have been carried out instead, however, Iran has to be wary. They know crippling "Israel" with just missiles and drones is going to prove difficult, and the number required is huge. To deplete your entire stock (and the one of your allies) leaves you without deterrence against the other, much bigger genocidal entity -- The United States. And that's the one parking their aircraft carriers, missile destroyers and submarines in front of your home.

All in all, Iran comes out on top. They told "Israel" that they were going to strike, they launched their strike knowing "Israel" was prepared for it, the strike went through, "Israel" despite it's apparent strenght then presents itself as the victim but was unable to fully protect itself and now they have the ball. Now they have to either strike back at Iran, provoking further escalation, or take the L and probably listen to those few in the US who are telling them to stay put for a while. Meanwhile, more and more arabs are probably looking at Iran as the only one doing something about "Israel". It is a measured response of course, go way over the line and you have two genocidal entities unleashing nuclear hell over you. For us Global South peoples who oppose the US and it's allies, survival comes off as the first priority. And when we respond, we have to do so in a clear and efficient way, because our enemies are absolutely barbaric and will stop at nothing.

A long war has just started (resumed?), and it's one of attrition and of multiple fronts. Let's see if "Israel" can keep up with it, now you will see why settler-colonialism projects are completely unviable and are enemy of time itself. Can Zionism still be "Israel's" way of thinking? Can they continue to feed their "Lebensraum" at the expense of others? Or soon it will reach a breaking point from external pressure plus internal contradictions? Remember Nazi Germany and Rhodesia, both completely unviable projects. The Nazi project was doomed to fail because Fascism and Nazism are lost causes, they eventually grow so big they eat themselves. Rhodesia as in the settler-colonialism sense, can't have a minority ruling a majority in the way they ruled, through segregation and violence. Colonialism is a doomed project, read serious colonial studies and you will find out. The only peculiar thing it has is that it probably lasts for more time than expected, but overall it's just doomed to fail. We just gotta give it a small push, though, especially to secure a better outcome after it's downfall.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Pretty good footage of missile impacts on the Nevatim military airport

This base has F35s and is protected by Patriot systems. East of Beersheba, in the occupied Palestinian Negev, direct hits.

https://streamable.com/abihqz

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 6 months ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 76 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Reading those Reddit comments for even one minute has just melted my brain. Thank god for Hexbear, the trenches out there are ROUGH

[–] [email protected] 70 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

the older I get, the more I understand Stalin's purges. we're going to have a revolution and let these genocidal freaks walk amongst us? redditors? Biden? Kirby? Miller? any US politician?

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 6 months ago

We deeply condem the cruel and unjustifiable 1. April Attack by the IDF Terror Organization and we want to reiterate that Iran has the Right to Defend itself.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 6 months ago (3 children)

i will rest assured tonight that Ukraine will never see another patriot missile

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 6 months ago

RAF pilots defending Israel, may rishi sunak burn in hell god willing

[–] [email protected] 71 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Iran's attack was another false flag orchestrated by 72 to get a 1000+ comment newsmega day.

👁️👁️👁️

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

So I dunno if this counts as news but it's funny.

For context, Ben Brody is a Jewish dude who Elon accused of being a neo-Nazi because he looked vaguely like some fascist from Portland. Brody got the same lawyer that reamed Alex Jones a while back, hopefully the actual trial gets filmed

full deposition

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Miami Herald - Have more Palestinians or Israelis died in war? Half of Americans don’t know, poll says [22/03/2024]

About 32,000 Palestinians and 1,200 Israelis have been killed since the start of the Israel-Hamas war, marking a casualty ratio of roughly 26 to 1, according to officials from both governments. But despite this massive disparity, half of Americans do not know which side has had a higher death toll, according to a March 21 poll from the Pew Research Center. The poll, conducted in February, sampled 12,693 U.S. adults and has a margin of error of plus or minus 1.5 percentage points. When asked via a “basic knowledge” multiple choice question whether the death toll was higher among Palestinians or Israelis, 48% of respondents did not select the correct answer. One-third, 34%, selected “not sure,” while 7% chose “higher among Israelis” and 7% chose “about the same.” A slim majority of respondents, 52%, correctly reported that more Palestinians have died.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 6 months ago (4 children)

they're actually running '99%' of Iran's munitions got intercepted, lmao. IOF's new interception criteria includes when one of their facilities intercepts munitions before they hit the ground

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 6 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 70 points 6 months ago (8 children)

“‼️🇮🇷🇮🇱Urgent convening of the UN Security Council. Biden asks Israel not to respond to Iran strike

▪️The telephone conversation between Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu and US President Biden has ended. As a result, the US President asked Israel not to respond to Iran’s attack in order to prevent escalation in the region.

▪️Israel has requested an urgent meeting of the UN Security Council in connection with the attack by Iran.

▪️The Chairman of the UN Security Council plans to hold an urgent meeting on April 14 due to Iran’s attack on Israel, the Permanent Mission of Malta reported.

▪️Saudi Arabia is monitoring the military escalation in the region and calls on the parties to show restraint, the Foreign Ministry said.

▪️Israel was attacked by Iran because the US under the Biden administration is showing its weakness to the world - Donald Trump.

▪️The head of the Israeli Ministry of Defense informed the Pentagon chief about defensive operations during an attack on Iran.

▪️If Israel attacks Iran, Tehran will respond with redoubled force, one of the commanders of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps told the state television channel Press TV.

RVvoenkor (Russian Z reporters channel)

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 6 months ago (4 children)

https://twitter.com/ArmchairW/status/1778682534123172215

The MV Dali collided with the Key Bridge in Baltimore three weeks ago and so little has been done for remediation that if this was happening in Russia or China we'd have people writing Ph.D dissertations on this website about poor state capacity and shaken trust in "regimes." ⬇️

Let's look at the current status of things three weeks in:

  • M/V Dali remains aground and has not been freed from bridge debris, let alone unloaded, refloated, and evacuated to drydock
  • Practically no progress has been made clearing debris, because:
  • The handful of small floating cranes on site are obviously not up to the task, because:
  • Apparently the Biden Administration decided this would be an ALL AMERICAN salvage effort and refused to bring in foreign crane ships with far greater capacity, thus:
  • Workers are being endangered by being ordered to cut the bridge debris into small chunks manageable by the low-capacity cranes on site, complicated by the fact much of this work must be done underwater
  • The Port of Baltimore remains closed to all heavy traffic and authorities expect it to remain closed through at least May, which is very optimistic
  • Officials expect a replacement bridge might be inaugurated in a decade, which could itself be optimistic

Let's be real - if this had happened in China the port would have been open in days and construction on a replacement span would be underway as we speak. This incident is beginning to illustrate the decline in the real state capacity of the United States of America in the starkest possible terms.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 70 points 6 months ago (1 children)

BREAKING: Ali Khamenei: "We are waiting for Hexbear to close the mega before retaliating. We're going to wait until not a single Hexbear is watching us."

Death to America

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 6 months ago (6 children)

https://archive.is/ugLqb

White House condemns ‘Death to America’ chants at rally in Dearborn, Mich.

spoilerThe White House on Tuesday condemned “death to America” chants that surfaced online from a recent rally in Dearborn, Mich., protesting Israel’s war in Gaza.

Press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre replied, “yes” when asked if President Biden condemns the comments in the chants, which were captured on video by some attendees.

“Peaceful protests are something that the president has also been very clear that, its important to give folks space to peacefully protest. But any type of violent rhetoric, we are going to denounce,” she said.

Dearborn mayor Abdullah Hammoud (D) has also denounced the chants, sharing in a statement on X that “Dearborn is a city of proud Americans.”

The chants, which also included “Death to Israel,” took place at a rally on Friday to mark the International Day of Al-Quds, according to The Detroit News. Fox2 reported that the chants came from members of the audience at the rally.

Dearborn, a Detroit suburb where Arab Americans make up the majority of the population, was under increased security in February after an op-ed in The Wall Street Journal called the city “America’s jihad capital.” Biden called out the “anti-Arab hate” against Dearborn at the time.

When questioned by Fox News’ Jacqui Heinrich about whether Biden is concerned if Dearborn faces a risk of becoming a hot bed for homegrown threats, Jean-Pierre reiterated that the White House denounces violence.

“I don’t have any intelligence to share with you on that, obviously that’s something we’re always very vigilant about,” she said.

She added, “obviously, we will condemn any, any violent rhetoric.”

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 6 months ago (22 children)
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[–] [email protected] 70 points 6 months ago (5 children)

I don't think Israel is a rational country run by rational people and I do believe Israel will respond to this. It's not going to end with this.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

Simplicius's latest piece is on the Iranian strike on Israel. It's pretty long so here's my summary of the thing:

Iran has stated that its goals for the attack were to strike the Ramon and Nevatim airbases, which have both strategic and symbolic significance as they are the attacks from which the Israeli attack on the consulate was conducted from. They also wished to hit the Israeli Air Force intelligence HQ where the attack was planned. More generally, they wanted to understand and degrade their air defence.

Both the airbases are in the south of Israel. The HQ is in the north of the Golan Heights.

The Intelligence HQ was hit and seemingly levelled. Ramon was "badly hit", Nevatim was hit by over 7 missiles. There is probably more damage to other installations but their distance from civilians who could record them means that the extent of the damage is only something the military commands know via satellite images. In short, Iran was very successful in their strikes.

This attack was historic because it was an attack directly from Iran, but also because it was the most advanced and longest range peer-to-peer exchanges in history, crossing several countries over 1000-2000 kilometers with not only hundreds of drones and missiles, but also hypersonic weapons possibly involved in some capacity. This attack seems to have drawn inspiration from Russia's campaigns in Ukraine, first sending in drones to be shot down and deplete Israeli air defense and then sending in low-flying cruise missiles, and then finally the ballistic missiles - all timed such that they would arrive at the appropriate time to best exploit Israeli defenses.

The US scrambled the combined power of themselves, Israel, the UK, France, and Jordan to try and intercept as many drones and missiles as possible. This seems to have not been successful, with several images online of "intercepted" ballistic missiles actually just being the ejected booster stages of two-stage rockets. There is evidence that the ballistic missiles were largely not shot down and sliced through the dense Israeli defenses like butter. The videos that suggested interceptions were occurring may have in fact been the stage separation of Israel's Arrow missiles. As Iran's ballistic missiles hit their targets, they seem to have been moving at approximately Mach 3.5 to 5.

While Iran has definitely hit the airbases, it's not terribly clear what precisely on those airbases they hit, with satellite images being unclear, though a hangar may have been directly hit. Israel has coped by releasing images and footage that are meant to imply (but don't really show) that the airbase was unharmed; at least one of these videos (of an F-35 landing) is possibly old footage based on reverse searching, and Israel more generally released confirmed old footage (from 7 years ago, even) throughout the attack.

There is controversy about whether the Iranians used hypersonic missiles - there is no definite proof that they did, but there is some speculation for the missile nerds in the piece.

Iran has warned that they will respond to further Israeli attacks in a similar and expanded manner; even 10 times more than the previous level of strikes, which would be about a thousand ballistic missiles at once.

This failure of Western interception demonstrates that the excuses made during the Ukraine War about how Russian strikes were only getting through due to Ukrainian inexperience were false. Iran penetrated several layers of the absolute cutting edge of Western interception technology and made them spend over a billion dollars, with Iran spending ten times less or even less than that. It demonstrates that Iran is indeed perfectly capable of hitting any target they wish in the Middle East, and Iran actually has an advantage that they alone hold in the world. Russia and the US were beholden to the Intermediate Ballistic Missile Treaty until 2019 when Trump withdrew from it (and Russia did in turn), meaning they have less experience in creating the kinds of ballistic missiles that Iran possesses; Russia has instead generally focussed their cutting edge on cruise missiles, which are more expensive and slower.

The main problem that Iran might now experience is accuracy, depending on their technology. They have demonstrated they can get missiles through Israel's defenses, but due to a lack of real evidence (which Israel will obviously never release unless somehow forced), it's hard to say how precise Iran's missiles truly were either way. It's entirely possible that they hit every single target exactly, but it's entirely possible that only a few managed to hit something of value. We simply do not know, beyond vibes. Israel has leaned into that with their propaganda, which is neither here nor there as Israel is a compulsive liar.

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