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[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 55 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I think it's just someone who was on the transport planes - presumably they got out with the rest of the participants in the (alleged) CSAR operation.

now, why exactly was someone from a maintenance squadron flying in on a special forces operation is a different question, a crashed F-15 (in a completely different location) isn't exactly something you can do maintenance on...

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[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 75 points 23 hours ago

https://xcancel.com/clashreport/status/2041020763763876308

Satellite images show about 28 craters blasted into roads in Iran’s Esfahan province near where a downed US airman was rescued. The craters, each about 9 meters wide, appear placed in a line to deliberately cut off road access. They’re located roughly 20 km from a remote airstrip where US forces destroyed their damaged aircraft. The strikes were likely carried out to block Iranian forces from reaching the area during the rescue operation.

[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 77 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

https://xcancel.com/upholdreality/status/2040856329732927762

Iranian TV analysts break down how the US lost 12 aircraft in a single operation -- two C-130s, four Little Birds, four Black Hawks, and two MQ-9 drones.

"I don't even know how to report this without laughing."

tito-laugh

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/2040856281905524736/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/bz9hgkIKxrv--9hw.mp4

[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 88 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

so, some days ago I mentioned the idea that Americans completely failed to notice what actually happened in Iraq in the 2010s during the anti-ISIS war, and are still under the impression that they have a loyal puppet state in Iraq, and, well... https://xcancel.com/DavidLiptonWI/status/2040891090270556454

The U.S. “folding” (not really - Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq were all unqualified wins for the U.S.) after decades of war with minimal costs to the U.S. and paralyzing their economy is really just proof of US divine providence. In Iraq - the U.S. won a permanent military presence, control over the oil money (via the development fund for Iraq), a rump Kurdistan state, and a regime change for competitive elections. In Afghanistan, the U.S. won a permanent dysfunctional economy as retaliation for 9/11. In Vietnam, a permanent dysfunctional economy that eventually opened up to the U.S. and is now America’s little bitch because they were scared shitless by memories of the 1970s

"permanent military presence" MOST OF WHICH LITERALLY JUST FLED IRAQ WITH THEIR TAILS TUCKED BETWEEN THEIR LEGS

"rump Kurdistan state" WHICH HAS BEEN GETTING HAMMERED BY IRAN FOR A MONTH NOW (and wasn't able to actually successfully be used in a scheme to launch a ground incursion into Iran anyway, so, uh, what's the point of it exactly?)

"control over the oil money" well, good thing nothing has happened since that might impact Iraq's ability to export its oil...

"regime change for competitive elections" what does this even mean?

"In Vietnam, a permanent dysfunctional economy that eventually opened up to the U.S. and is now America’s little bitch" does-he-know https://hexbear.net/post/8026521/7032437

also, love how "permanent dysfunctional economy as retaliation for 9/11" is somehow a strategic end. I guess if you're a demon?


American powers of self-delusion are truly unmatched, you could have Chinese troops parading down Wall Street, Red Alert 2 style and Americans would still manage to convince themselves that they've won somehow

[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 58 points 1 day ago

https://xcancel.com/Andyyyyrrrr/status/2040871875492938008

1630z SHUCK 87 USAF E-3 Sentry AWACS (78-0578). #SHUCK87 Inbound to Prince Sultan AB from Ramstein to replace 81-0005. Couldn't follow the airway (T100) briefly as they don't have the Diplomatic clearance to overfly Spain.

FEED ME MORE AWACS AIRCRAFT

[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 65 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

https://xcancel.com/AnthonyAgu88102/status/2040931012159381907

Thoughts from a retired Special Operations Officer.

Though I am not an aircraft surgeon, nor a Coniurationis Fautor, I have some thoughts that may be on interest, presented in three points, a conclusion, and a hypothesis, regarding the US rescue operation in Iran, with consideration to the photos of the aircraft used. I have flown on the C-130H and the MC-130J in training and in combat, to include static line airborne operations, Military Freefall (HALO) operations, and combat infiltration and exfiltration in austere environs, such as the Kobani Landing Zone (KLZ) in Northeast Syria during Operation Inherent Resolve.

  1. it is important to note that the aircraft used in this operation were NOT the standard C-130 Hercules model, which have 4-blade, steel propellers (see picture #2). The fixed-wing aircraft used were the MC-130J, Commando II, operated by the U.S. Air Force Special Operations Command for clandestine operations. The MC-130J uses six-bladed Dowty R391 composite propellers (see picture #1). These blades are constructed from composite materials, specifically featuring a carbon fiber structure rather than the metal (aluminum) used on older C-130 models.

btw, there are a total of 64 of these in service (well, were catgirl-smug) - so all the cope from Americans about how "these are just C-130s, we've got hundreds of them, who gives a shit" is, indeed, cope, these are actually a highly-specialized variant of the C-130 which there aren't anywhere near as many of, and from which they took final delivery last year - so, that's 3% of that fleet down (although at least it's just a variant of a plane that's still in production, so it's a a lot more replaceable - the choppers, conversely, very much aren't, and have had the program for their replacements canceled too)

  1. carbon fiber does not melt in the traditional sense, as it does not turn into a liquid. However, the resin matrix holding the fibers does melt and become viscous.
  2. Steel/aluminum blades snap and break. MC-130J R391 blades shatter and can melt. The images we see from the destroyed aircraft (picture #6) show 6 blades. Therefore, these are the MC-130J Dowty blades (they can melt). And as you can see in picture 4 and 5, when not melted, but rather broken, they shred and snap. They do not bend. As you can see from the steel/aluminum variant on the C-130H model, the blades snap and break and bend, they do not shatter or melt.

Conclusion: To declare that the aircraft "definitely" were shot down based on the "bent" propellers is false. Could the aircraft have been shot down? Yes. Could the aircraft have been shot down AND the blades melted in the extreme heat of the fire from the BIP (blown in place)? Yes. Both can be true. But it can also be true that the aircraft was not shot down, nor crash landed, and the propellers do indicate burning and melting, not a crash.

Hypothesis: The rescue operation expanded to become the desired Delta Force, JSOC, SOF, ST-6 high-risk operation to ALSO seize the uranium in Iran; hence the need for so many operators, support, aircraft, etc. This WAS intended to be that operation. It failed. So what happened to the aircraft. I do not believe that they were "stuck". I have seen MC-130Js plow through dirt, mud, snow, gravel, etc. I doubt they were stuck. It is more likely that the aircraft took hits upon entry and also likely took hits and damage while on the ground at the hasty FARP at the old airfield in Isfahan, "conveniently" close to where the suspected uranium may have been stored.

Lesson: A ground war into Iran will be very costly and will be a tactical, operational, and strategic failure (Clausewitz).


https://xcancel.com/GraniteState19/status/2040955060067484043

Solid but just a note. All C-130Js have 6 blades, not just H/MC-130Js. The old H model had four blades props but those are mainly reserve and guard units and unlikely to be employed here.

although by this point, other sources seem to have confirmed these being MC-130Js anyway

[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 87 points 1 day ago

https://xcancel.com/Pataramesh/status/2040854666532061221

Just to keep track of KOWN U.S./Israeli Airpower losses & out-of-service cases

  • 2 F-15 (claimed friendly fire)
  • 1 F-15 (Kuwaiti F-18?)
  • 1 KC-135 (claimed shot down by Iraqi militias)
  • 1 KC-135 (damaged, claimed mid-air collision)
  • ~20-30 Hermes-900 (claimed by Iran)
  • ~10 Heron family (claimed by Iran)
  • ~20-24 MQ-9 Reaper
  • 1 KC-135 (heavily damaged on the ground)
  • 3 KC-135 (damaged on the ground)
  • 1 F-35 (heavily damaged/crash-landed)
  • 1 F/A-18E (light damage by SAM)
  • 1 KC-135 (destroyed on the ground)
  • 2-3 KC-135 (claimed damaged on the ground)
  • 1 E-3 AWACS (destroyed on the ground)
  • 1 E-3 AWACS (claimed damaged on the ground)
  • 2 EC-130H (claimed destroyed on the ground)
  • 1 UH-60 Blackhawk (hit by Iraqi FPV drone)
  • 1 F-15E (shot down)
  • 1 A-10 (shot down over Strait of Hormuz)
  • 1 A-10 (damaged & crashed, northern P. Gulf)
  • 1 HH-60 (hit and crash-landed in Iraq)
  • 1 HH-60 (hit by small arms, damaged)
  • 1 CH-47 (hit on the ground, irreparably damaged)
  • 2 HC-130 (hit/destroyed on the ground by U.S.)
  • 4 MH-6 (destroyed on the ground by U.S.)

There almost certainly notably more losses of aircrafts in Israel & Jordan as well as those in hangars in the Persian Gulf Arab U.S. bases. ➡️ Everyone is invited for corrections, additions and cost calculations in the comments

[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 61 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

whoopsie! I was assured that we'd be getting big beautiful stonks-up, but we're getting horrible nastystonks-down instead! how can this be?

https://archive.ph/dV3Sk (seems like the archiver didn't get the whole article here? I assume I'm able to access it from the direct link since I have an extension installed)

“Liberation Year” has not freed American factories

Even the winners from Donald Trump’s trade war are feeling squeezed

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Deep down, even Donald Trump seems sometimes to doubt whether tariffs do ordinary Americans all that much good. Four times in the past year the president has riffed on the idea that children might just have to make do with “two dolls, instead of 30 dolls”—if tariffs make toys more expensive. Sometimes he adds that Americans may have too many pencils. “They only need one or two.”

ah yes, all the important items in life - dolls and pencils

food? nah. don't need it. food's woke actually

The White House argues that those costs are worth bearing, because tariffs will rescue American manufacturing from a decades-long slump. On April 2nd last year Mr Trump set out his “Liberation Day” plans to ratchet the levies to their highest level in nearly a century. And there, just about, they have remained—through a careening path over the 12 months since, punctuated by various trade deals, blow-ups with allies, exemptions for favoured industries and a brutal loss at the Supreme Court (see chart 1). “Jobs and factories will come roaring back into our country,” Mr Trump promised back then. One year on, how loud is the roar? On the jobs front, it has been closer to a whimper. Manufacturers have shed around 100,000 jobs since Mr Trump took office. Meanwhile, the rest of the economy has gained 300,000. The effect on actual manufacturing output has been closer to a shrug. The purchasing-managers’ index, the longest-standing survey of American manufacturing, published by the Institute for Supply Management (ISM), suggests that the sector spent most of 2025 in recession, but the measure has perked up a little over the past month or two. Production of manufactured goods is up a little too, but only back to the levels of a few years ago. Much of that boost comes from a few specific sectors: aerospace (following a production ramp-up by Boeing after strikes and safety woes), computers and electronics (subsidised by the 2022 CHIPS Act) and pharmaceuticals (revved up by the boom in anti-obesity GLP-1 drugs).

lol. fucking ozempic's a significant portion of US economic growth?

Tariff-boosters would argue, not unfairly, that restoring America’s factories is a project that will take decades. One year in is just too soon to take stock. The trouble is that, if anything, most American manufacturers seem to view the trade war as a setback to be navigated, not a triumph to be celebrated. Since Mr Trump took charge, most of the comments from manufacturers that ISM has published along with its surveys have mentioned tariffs. Not one has been positive (see chart 2). Many of the unpublished ones are more forceful still. “A fair number of comments just say the word ‘tariff’,” says Susan Spence of ISM, who compiles the survey. Or, among some less-polite respondents: “’Same as last month, it’s just tariffs, stupid.’” That ire stems from two big problems. The first is the mess of it all: churn, instability and a mountain of new paperwork. Julie Robbins, who runs EarthQuaker Devices, an Ohio-based guitar-pedal maker, estimates that staying tariff-compliant has cost her small business about 400 man-hours over the past year. “Every hour spent navigating this”, she says, “is time that we can’t spend on things helpful for growing the business.” Like many small manufacturers, Ms Robbins will also hardly receive any refunds for the array of tariffs found illegal by the Supreme Court in February. That money will go to the wholesalers who imported the components her company used. Even if a wholesaler passes along the tariffs to buyers (as they often do), the refunds go to whoever formally pays them.

Constantly shifting tariffs have made planning for hiring, spending or investment nightmarish. Monthly measures of economic-policy uncertainty hit record highs after “Liberation Day”, beating the records set during the early months of the covid-19 pandemic (see chart 3). When the virus was contained and jabs were in arms, that uncertainty receded. This time it has stayed high. That has left plenty of manufacturers furious. “People understand when business cycles go down and customers stop spending,” says Ethan Karp of MAGNET, a pro-manufacturing non-profit. “There’s particular anger to the government doing something that directly hurts them.” That instability makes reshoring especially difficult. New factories can easily take five or ten years to plan and spin up. Projects that make financial sense only if current tariffs stay in place could easily become money-sinks if a future administration were to scrap the levies altogether, or if the current one offers new exemptions. Only 9% of the Ohio manufacturers surveyed by MAGNET are reshoring. That is up from 4% five years ago, but hardly heralds a renaissance. Nor is the instability about to pass. The stopgap 10% universal tariffs that Mr Trump instituted in February after his loss at the Supreme Court expire in July, and cannot be renewed without a (supremely improbable) act of Congress. To fill that gap, the administration plans to use a patchwork of country- and sector-specific tariffs, which are on firmer legal footing. But that process will be messy and unpredictable, and could well take many more months. By the time it is done, the next presidential election will not be far off. And America could elect a Democrat (or, less plausibly, a tariff-sceptical Republican) who would pare the levies back. That is one problem.

A heap of broken images

The second problem relates to tariffs on inputs. Even manufacturers that do the bulk of their work in America tend to import components from abroad. (Ms Robbins imports 94% of the raw materials for her guitar pedals: switches, jacks, knobs, electronics, and so on. The 6% that comes from the United States is largely packaging.)

MY COUNTRY TIS OF THEE

For many manufacturers, tariffs on steel have been a particular menace; steel is widely used and often imported, and America makes less than it consumes. Input tariffs are especially damaging for exporters, which are competing with foreign factories that don’t pay the levies at all. But those tariffs cannot easily be removed without undermining the logic behind the trade war. If the goal is to make America more self-sufficient, then tariffs to bring back basic production of raw materials are a necessary part of the process. Plenty of America First types speak admiringly of the depth of China’s manufacturing ecosystem, up and down the supply chain. And until that reshoring happens, which even in a best-case scenario would take years, upstream manufacturers will be hamstrung by higher input costs. The administration’s preferred approach seems to be offering tariff exemptions to the loudest (and best-connected) industries. A lobbying push by technology companies has so far helped stave off most new tariffs on semiconductors. When Destin Sandler, an engineer and YouTuber, complained recently about tariffs on machines making chain mail at the Hill and Valley Forum, a Washington bash for the tech right, Kelly Loeffler, head of the Small Business Administration and a Trump cabinet member, urged him to email her. But exemptions just undermine the tariffs further: if some sectors are getting relief, others could too—and why then bother trying to reshore? One year on from “Liberation Day”, then, America’s tariffs are surprisingly friendless, even among manufacturers. Punching holes in the tariff wall with exemptions may help appease some moaners, but lowers the already-low odds that many firms bother seriously considering reshoring. America has plenty of recent industrial success stories, but mainly in sectors like data centres or liquefied natural gas that are largely shielded from the tariffs. The odds that tariffs will set off a domestic manufacturing boom, meanwhile, look slimmer than ever.

[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 67 points 1 day ago

https://xcancel.com/Megatron_ron/status/2040815690278699220

According to an informed U.S. military source, not one but four MH-6 ‘Little Bird’ helicopters had to be abandoned and were destroyed at the landing site along with the two C-130s Hercules – ABC News. During the operation, two MQ-9 ‘Reaper’ drones were also shot down.

[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 82 points 1 day ago

https://xcancel.com/OAlexanderDK/status/2040844883242447094

I don’t know. But the claim that the departing US forces blew up their HC-130s sounds off. Also, there must be a good reason (other than availability) why Ospreys weren’t used for the extraction. They’re literally built to avoid what’s being claimed.

They didn’t use Ospreys because they decided that they would like the downed WSO and CSAR units to come back alive.

peltier-laugh

[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 90 points 1 day ago

https://xcancel.com/Aelthemplaer/status/2040822714605109698

Spotted flying at low level over western Iran this morning; a C-295W from the USAF’s 427th Special Operations Squadron, a clandestine unit that reportedly specializes in infiltration and exfiltration into enemy territory.

um. why are they still flying search and rescue planes if they recovered the pilot?

flying the entire US airforce bit-by-bit into Iran in an endless chain of rescue of the rescue team who were rescuing the rescue team who were

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[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 79 points 1 day ago

https://xcancel.com/ripplebrain/status/2040772614457630973

Timeline of "Power Plant Day" deadlines:

  • • March 22nd: Trump issues 48-hour deadline
  • • March 23rd: Deadline is extended to March 27th
  • • March 26th: Deadline is extended to April 6th
  • • April 5th: Deadline is extended to April 7th

looking forward to still hearing about Iranian power plants from the Trump-head-in-a-jar in in the 2050s

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aside from the great drawing, I really like all the cool little lore tidbits the author thinks through for how the city would have developed historically

"now there's sheep grazing on an unfinished street network that no-one wants to pay to maintain" stonks-down

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