Flying Boats - Trans Megathread from June 22nd through June 28th
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Flying boats are fixed-wing aircraft with hulls like boats, allowing them to land on water instsead of runways. Lakes, seas, reflecting pools, you name it.
In the early history of flight this kind of thing was popular because there were a lot of places without runways and airstrips, and a lot of those that did exist were too small to accomodate larger, long-distance airplanes. There were other advantages too - because their size wasn't limited by the length of runways, they could be built to an impressive size, and had longer range than land-based airplanes. I imagine it was also comforting to be able to land safely on the water in case of mechanical problems.
I think my favorite flying boat is the Dornier Do X (pictured in the thumbnail) which was made in the 1920's. In addition to seats for about a hundred passengers, its three decks contained an onboard kitchen, a dining room, multiple bathrooms, and a bar. Each nacelle on the top has two engines, for a total of twelve. There's just something magnificent about it.
In the 21st century flying boats are quite rare, although there are a few models used for fighting wildfires. The CL-415 Super Scooper for example, can skim the surface of a lake or reservoir for a few seconds and take in more than six thousand liters of water without stopping!
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I have an appointment in 30 minutes to hopefully get my gender dysphoria diagnosis. I am bricking it tbh. Also I need to think about
bottom surgery, sex
I had full depth vaginoplasty this year in January, and my recovery has been very smooth compared to people I know. I wish I could say what I did differently, I ate right, stayed hydrated, was fairly fit, ate a lot of protein (like whey and beans lol), stayed active, stayed on top of my dilation schedule, live alone and no pets so didnt have to clean my tub or whatever any more than usual. The first month dilation schedule does suck, its a full time job and thats not an exaggeration all the dilating, cleaning, drying, 4x a day. The months after get easier and easier but its still a lot of work. I was also lucky my union got us short term disability benefits so I never had to worry about money either.Not tucking again is definitely great - but you dont need full depth for that. You could have an orchi which Ive heard makes it easier to tuck, or zero depth vaginoplasty. Then it just looks like any other vagina but there's no cavity. Recovery is simpler and significantly faster with zero depth. I didnt get orchi pre bottom surgery.
I wanted full depth because I knew I wanted to have sex with a vagina. I always considered myself a top, and I still pretty much top even though... I aint got the equipment for it unless I use a strap lol. I was having sex with my vagina about 4 months in? Which is a little faster than most people but I healed great. It feels great and I'd highly recommend it if its something you'd ever want. Otherwise, if its not something you want theres not much point going for the longer recovery surgery.
I do remember thinking that if they said "you either get FFS or bottom surgery free, pick" I wouldve picked FFS. Im actually quite happy with a vagina though, its great!
Thank you.
(Sorry if i'm grossing everyone out. i'm far too awkward with the irl people i could ask these things to actually ask them in this level of detail)
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Yeah I'd pick FFS first too if it were an option. But I'm glad you're happy with your bottom surgery and you've definitely got me thinking about getting full depth. Like, imagine just being able to have sex whenever with no planning or preparation. I know you said you're a top, but are you able to say how vaginal feels compared to anal or nah? I think they position everything so you still get prostate stimulation, right? Did you keep full sensitivity of the various tissue that got moved around? How's masturbation? I typically use a magic wand, but the idea of perhaps just being able to use my fingers is kind of nice. Do you ever miss having the bits to top with? Do you feel more comfortable topping with a strap?Oh also, did you need to get electrolysis on the area first? Was it more painful than face or about the same? And was it done at a hospital or in a regular hair removal salon? The latter concerns me quite a lot because they're all (presumably) cis women at the one I go to.
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I was never interested in bottoming anal, so I have nothing to compare it to lol. From the people who I know whove had both, its comparable ish. Some people still need prep with a neovagina, I dont and I dont think Im rare for it - I get wet and all just fine. As far as I know most people are able to get wet after, but some people still need a little prep - but not full on bottoming prep, like just lube. Which is the same as plenty of cis women with vaginas they were born with.Youre able to check and touch and otherwise stimulate the prostate from the front yeah~ also they save a bundle of tissue and nerves that acts more or less like a g spot too. I kept sensitivity, and for me it does feel more sensitive and pleasurable but it might be more down to no more bottom dysphoria rather than anything they did to nerves or tissue. Fingers feels great, vibe feels WONDERFUL. I did not know how good it felt. Its also nice how long it can go? And it just keeps going and going too, with my gock it was like - build up then its more or less done in one release. It has not been like that post op.
The only stuff I miss about my old gock is the ease of peeing standing up and how much faster masturbation was. I can still pee standing up but it takes some awkward stances and muscles lol, and while masturbating was a lot faster - it also wasnt fun, more of a chore. I topped with a strap before (occasionally) and after, I preferred it to my gock even before. Now, I get to use a strapless strap on (like a double sided dildo kinda, you hold on to one end inside you and use the other) - thats been great.
I got laser for one session before, but honestly it wasnt necessary. It didnt hurt much, I have a high pain tolerance but honestly it barely hurt compared to my face. They like scrape off your hair follicles during the surgery? I dont have any hair inside my neo vagina, and out of the other post op trans women I know I think only one had a couple hairs inside? Anyway, they can get rid of any spare hairs inside if some happen to make it past surgery. I had my laser session at a place that has a lot of trans and gender diverse clients, and I had the same tech for my face as I did for full brazillian. Cis guys get it too, not often but they do so if you wanna boymode aboht it - well you can.
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Def not me only just finding out that vagina-havers can pee standing up. Humans are truly magical creatures.Thanks for answering so thoroughly and being so patient. That all seems really good and I kind of think i want it.
Do you mind me just asking a little more about recovery? How long were you bedbound for? Did you have someone to look after you to begin with? How long until you were able to go up and down stairs and stand long enough to shower and prepare food? Did you need a ring cushion to sit down (I guess there's a lot of swelling in the whole surrounding area)? If you work out/cycle/run, how long until you were able to start again?
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I was up and walking day after surgery! They get you to walk, early mobilization helps with keeping inflammation down - which means better healing and less pain. I was walking up and down a couple flights of stairs I think... a couple days after surgery? And then at home, my apartment is on the 6th floor - and I used the stairs.I was never bedbound or strict bedrest, closest was the first day after. I didn't move tons for the first month, besides bed or couch. Sitting did hurt - they had little cushion rings for us at the recovery house but I do wish I had my own for the flight home and then for the first few weeks. I took a class during recovery, it was only an hour but it definitely felt a little sore the first couple weeks.
I had my mom with me the first week, my sister helped with groceries or chores, I also had a lot of friends who helped with tasks for the first couple months but I stopped needing much of any help after about 6 weeks. It was a strict 10 lbs lifting limit, which can be like a big house cat - so it doesnt take much to stress the surgery site and stitches that first critical month. I showered at the recovery house! It was very nice. So maybe a few days or a week in?
I didnt start working out again until after the first month, and then it was very gentle bodyweight stuff the next two months. But I stayed active with walking, stairs, etc. I stayed active the whole time, starting from post op day 1 or 2.
As much as recovery sucks, it is a temporary part of your life - and then the rest is, you have a vagina, and jts just there~ ♡
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More prep then lube?
Edit: oh idk how I missed the rest of that paragraph, I swear I read the whole thread. But is it just lube? Like because you said it's not full on bottom prep... Is there still more/other stuff then natal vaginas?
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Dilators were invented for women with vaginisumus I think, so even natal vaginas sometimes need some pain control or numbing. Otherwise, more or less all of the prep is foreplay and/or lube depending on the person.Comrades, I am officially transgender. Wow.
the first thing that felt official was checking that box with my insurance, so happy for you comrade!
Thank you! We don't really have medical insurance here (yet...) but it's definitely good to feel recognised. I specifically remember checking my first "gay" box on a diversity form (my sexuality and gender adventure has taken a while) and, yeah, it felt really kind of affirming.
bottom surgery recovery talk, kinda graphic
Had an orchi last fall, it's great but when i compare my recovery to all the girls in my friend group who got vaginoplasty i wouldn't say the recovery is as easy as everybody makes it out to be. You spend several weeks with a sack swollen to the size of a pomegrenade if you're lucky and a cantaloupe if you're not, it's pretty awful both as far as physical discomfort goes and because you spend the hardest part of your recovery with a junk that's the exact opposite of why you did the surgery. The dysphoria from looking at that was murdering me.Yes, you get to leave the hospital a few days earlier, you have notably less incisions, you do not have to spend the next two years dialating, but all of these things very quickly get better.
When you weigh your surgery options, base them on which results you want, not how hard it is to get there. You will be able to handle it either way and it will kinda suck either way, but if you go for what you actually want and need it will also absolutely be worth it either way.
Thanks. This is the exact sort of thing I need to hear.
It's fine if you don't want to answer
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Are you fully healed now? how long would you say it took? does the skin eventually tighten up a little or (i'm so sorry and wish there were a better way of putting this) is it still kind of loose and flappy? (sorry)I think that mine has shrunken over the years (i've had good t suppression for 7 years or so, so the testes are small and tend to sit in the bottom of the inguinal canal), so i wonder if it will shrink more when it's fully empty
Are you happy with the result? Do you regret not getting a zero depth or even full bottom surgery? Has it eased your dysphoria?
Purely from a functional perspective, I can pee just fine and I don't require a vagina to have sex. But not having to worry about cleaning out or what I'm eating would be nice, and maybe I'd appreciate it more when I'm older.
Idk though. It's not a huge source of dysphoria for me (I have a face and ribcage to fulfil that role) so maybe I should just leave it as-is.
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Scar tissue can shrink for up to 2 years, but i have no actual wounds anymore or anything like it.
About 3 months in total, but i likely took longer due to the wound getting infected after i left the hospital.
It can do that, but that usually takes time. I'm about 7 months post surgery and haven't noticed anything. I also don't have any notable scarring, and besides the fact that there are no more balls, the only visible difference is a slight fold where the outer incision was made, but that is only visible when i hold the scrotum up a little. The scar itself isn't really visible.
It is possible to tighten the remaining skin surgically right away, but that can lead to complications like painfully stretched skin during erections or less material for an eventual future vaginoplasty, so i decided against that.
Yes, it feels wonderful. I would not have thought the absence of something can feel so relaxing and affirming.
Honestly, i sometimes regret not having gone for a full vaginoplasty or salmacian. I like having a dick, i'm kinda top leaning, but i still get phantom vagina from time to time and i regularly think to myself "i could be fully healed from my second round of vaginoplasty by now" (i originally had an earlier bottom surgery date, delayed that bc i was unsure and decided to have an orchi instead, so i would be more than a year after my original surgery date now). But it would have been fairly difficult in the situation i'm in rn, i live fairly far from almost my entire support network and have unmedicated ADHD. I could have pulled a bigger type of surgery off if i would have moved to where anybody else lives and if i was in a different spot as far as managing my ADHD goes, but as it is it would have been overwhelming to do more than this and may have led to me suffering another burnout. Or maybe not, but it would have been tough.
Massively, my balls were my biggest bottom dysphoria trigger. Anything else is so-so, some days there is dysphoria, some days i'm ok with things as they are and i have a lot of moments where my girldick actually makes me feel euphoric. I more or less expected it to go like this, too.
I can easily tuck now, that was impossible before bc i always felt pain after just a few minutes. Now i can tuck all day without issues. My testo levels are basically the same as before with EEn monotherapy.
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Your comment earlier about having a sac the size of a cantaloupe was really funny. Idk why why I didn't process it the first time but yeah I'm having a little giggle.Thank you so much for this and I'm glad you're mostly very happy with your result. Hope your ADHD is more under control now, too.
It's making me feel like, for me, it would be a half-measure. It's less that I hate my current genitals and more that I wouldn't mind if they were gone and I'd really like if they were replaced. I'm a bit same though re support network. People aren't a million miles away but it's a long way to travel frequently and I don't have much space here. And i'd never get rent this "low" again if i moved... unless???
Oh i've seen pics of this before. Cool af honestly. You could still get that right, if you wanted?
Did you do the whole recovery on your own?
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Fuck my chud life
A gender recognition certificate might be useful if you want to move to another country right? Because it lets you change your birth certificate.
Then if you're living in say Australia and are asked for a birth certificate you just have one in the gender that you feel closer to.
Yes, that's true. Perhaps I'll apply for it then. Thank you :)