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I’m back! It’s been a while since I’ve been on this site because I’ve found myself under some financial trouble and I’ve been stressed BUT I wanted to take this opportunity to talk about something I love dearly: dihedral groups!

Consider the symmetries of a square:

We can see that there are 4 reflections and 3 rotations, as well as the act of doing nothing at all. Together, we have 8 total symmetries, and in fact, these are all of the possible symmetries. What this means is that if we do one of these symmetric moves and then do another one, we will have not changed the square, and therefore doing these two moves is the same as doing just one of the 8 symmetries on its own. For example, doing a 90 degree rotation followed by a 180 degree rotation is the same as doing a 270 degree rotation. Also, doing a 90 degree rotation followed by a reflection across the vertical axis is the same as doing a reflection across a diagonal axis.

So in other words, we can define a function that takes two symmetries of a square as input and which outputs another symmetry. Since standard multiplication is a function taking two numbers and outputting another number, it makes sense to borrow the notation of multiplication for this function. Our symmetry function satisfies a few useful properties:

  • Closure: As explained above, for any two symmetries, the function will spit out another symmetry
  • Identity: There is a symmetry (namely, the “do nothing” symmetry) such that when it is input into the function with another symmetry, the function will always simply output the other symmetry
  • Associativity: For any symmetries a, b, and c, (ab)c = a(bc)
  • Inverses: For every symmetry, there is a symmetry that undoes it. For example, rotating a square by 270 degrees undoes rotating it by 90 degrees, and doing a reflection a second time after doing it once undoes the first reflection

These 4 properties are so important that any set of objects with a function defined on it that satisfies all of these properties has a special name: they’re called groups and they’re really freaking awesome. The symmetries of a square as a group is called D~8~, since there are 8 total symmetries. Sometimes you might see it called D~4~, since squares have 4 sides, but I think this convention is a bit silly. In the same way, D~6~ is the symmetries of an equilateral triangle, D~10~ is the symmetries of a regular pentagon, and so forth. In general, D~2n~ is the symmetries of a regular n-gon.

Now, one interesting thing is that groups can contain each other. For example, consider an octagon. Since there are squares hidden within the points of octagons, if we pick a square we can see that all of the symmetries of that square are present in the symmetries of of the octagon, so it is possible to throw out all of the other symmetries. What we would be left with is just the symmetries of a square. What this means is that D~8~ is contained in D~16~. You can play similar games to show that there are lots of groups contained inside the dihedral groups.

The last thing I want to talk about regarding these things are their subgroup lattices. Oftentimes mathematicians want to picture the internal structure of a group. One of the ways they might do this is by writing down all of the subgroups of a group they’re studying onto a piece of paper, and then connecting any two with a line if one of them is a subgroup of the other that doesn’t have a subgroup between them. The resulting picture is called a subgroup lattice, and I’ve left some dihedral group lattices below because I think they’re pretty.

two cute dihedral subgroup lattices holding hands and cuddling

Anyway this has been gushposting with your host, yewler. Maybe next mega I might talk about more specific details that make these things cool.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

You should be able to buy ametop or EMLA at a pharmacy

But is it the pain that's making you stop? Or just the idea of a needle at all?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

You should be able to buy ametop or EMLA at a pharmacy

I like your magic words science girl

Jokes aside, I'll check what that stuff is

But is it the pain that's making you stop? Or just the idea of a needle at all?

The idea of a needle. Like, I've felt much greater pain and had much larger cuts all the time compared to needles. But needles just really give me the ick. It's really manageable when my mental state is good. But when my mental state is not so good, I have a lot of trouble. I've even fainted onto the floor after injecting myself with E once. That isn't too surprising to me, since I faint or get lightheaded every time when my blood is drawn (so does my dad).

And when my mental state is really bad, I can't even bring myself to push the needle in.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

They're numbing creams! You might have to ask for it from the pharmacist, I don't think they're put out like Tylenol or Gravol or whatever. I use Ametop on kids and babies when we need to do an injection or start an IV or do bloodwork

You can sit and do your own injection ya know, there's no rule where you have to be standing. You might even be able to do it while laying down if you're flexible enough. You can kind of scratch near the injection and it can take away the sensation of it entering even if it isn't painful. There's a couple times where I've hesitated before doing my own injections even though I do it plenty of times at work and I've done it plenty of times on my own to myself - I was able to push through but I don't think that's a strategy that works for most people (i.e. "lol just ignore it" is terrible advice.) Can anyone else help you? I will also add that when it comes to needle anxiety, the more you play into the memtal block the stronger it's going to get - at some point, if you want injections, you will have to confront it even if you're feeling very, very anxious and scared. Best thing you can do about needle anxiety is repeat exposure. The same goes for my OCD, although checking and rechecking and rechecking (e.g. that the door is locked, the oven is off, the cats water bowl is full, the lights are odf the car door is locked, etc) helps temporarily relieve some anxiety it only makes checking worse and worse for me - I had to relearn how to live with the discomfort of not knowing and trusting myself that I did the thing I was supposed to and that was the actual long term solution.

Maybe you can practice with a syringe with nothing in it? Like no needle attached, just the syringe, fill it with water, press it in on your skin where you'd normally do it, press and squirt water on your skin.

Or, yeah, switch to sublingual or patches! Thankfully E can go in many different routes. You don't HAVE to do injections. It's just convenient that it's once a week.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Can anyone else help you?

No. I am completely alone pretty much all the time.

the more you play into the memtal block the stronger it's going to get

This is my biggest fear. If I don't do the injection tommorow, I fear that I will never be able to inject myself again.

Or, yeah, switch to sublingual or patches

How effective are these methods? The reason I went with injections is cause they are the cheapest and most effective (as I have been told). I'll also have to check the availability of such sources. But I can try. Better than giving up.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

"Effectiveness", to me, isn't that big a deal if you're monitoring your levels and have a medical team. Cause they'll adjust up or down depending on your needs, and adjust how often a day you have to take your meds to figure out what keeps you even. You just need estradiol in your serum to feminize, it shouldn't matter where it comes from someone long as you get it in your serum. There is no speed running feminizing HRT, doesn't matter if you do injections, doesn't matter if you take it sublingual, you cannot make it go any faster once your at the correct level.

IM is great because we can get it grey market but also because it lasts so long in our bodies you don't have big swings in levels. I think for me the most expensive was patches, but I bought the brand name patches cause that's the ones that stuck on me the best (SQ isn't so expensive but I just requisition my needles and supplies from work).

Maybe you have a trusted friend you can do your injections with? Yes, you may have to awkwardly ask if they'll do it, better than no HRT though. Yes, sounds like it'll be someone you don't live with so youll have to take it with you or have them come over. If a girl won't inject you with girl juice can we really say she's a friend lol

You can do your injections even with the fear. Deep breaths, nice and calm, your choice of dart motion or nice and smooth in - dart motion with get it in quickly but smooth feels better. Maybe hold someone's hand or a stuffie or literally anything. You can do this. You will be able to retrain your nervous system that this is not an emergency 5 alarm fire, you appreciate the assist nervous system but this isn't a saber tooth tiger scenario, and eventually you will be doing this - or be able to switch to another route. You can do this, a thousand generations of trans femmes are all behind you and rooting for you

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

if you're monitoring your levels and have a medical team

I can assure you that I do not have a medical team. I signed up for one, but there is a long waiting list.

Maybe you have a trusted friend you can do your injections with?

No, I don't even have a trusted family member to ask. I have a few acquaintances at uni, but that's about it. Half of them however are more likely to report me to the gestapo if that existed here.

You can do this, a thousand generations of trans femmes are all behind you and rooting for you

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Tomorrow is the day. The big test. I do well on tests. Shouldn't be a problem. doggirl-smart

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