this post was submitted on 19 May 2025
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It would be a generational process, not something immediate. Slowly educate and phase it out over time, until younger generations no longer see the need or rely on it as people do now. To act as if it is some completely impervious institution is just idiotic. It can't be done immediately, but it can and should eventually be phased out.
This is white chauvinism bullshit. You gonna tell me you're all for eradicating indigenous practices of colonized people. Because where you draw the line is important.
I would like to know how these Reddit atheists are going to convince Jewish people to give up Judaism (and not have them replace Judaism with Zionism).
Ah yeah. The two kinds of jew, religious and zionist.
"Eradicate" is overly charged. I don't see any reason why ceremonies or cultural traditions would be erased by providing more scientific education to the masses.
The knowledge of our ancestors can still be taught, and traditions upheld without literally believing that there are dieties or ghosts or whatever.
I dunno, this just strikes me as the "veganism is flawed because indigenous people should be able to hunt" argument, but applied to religion.
Holy shit no. Though like with what 9to5 said any actual changes to religious or spiritual practices would be long after our times, but again there's a bit of a false equivelency between exploitative structures like centralized churches and general practices of indigenous cultures. I have no issue with individual practice, just the structures that can arise from them.
You're overcorrecting due to the shitiness that is new atheism, and willfully blinding yourself to the issues that stand with organized religion.
It's not overcorrecting when we have had an issue with new atheist reactionary shit on this very site.
You're using it to dismiss legitimate criticisms though.
oh yes the very insightful analysis of "religion bad"
Alright, see, I can work with that. I don't agree with it, but at least it's more than a kneejerk reaction. The thing is, slowly phasing out religion or spirituality as a concept is something that would probably only happen long after the left has "won," however that may look. So we are talking about something that is most likely not gonna happen within our lifetime if it ever happens. Its bascially a sci-fi at that point and at least right now not very relevant to the struggles or battles ahead.
Fair enough.