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In a Christmas message to his followers Monday, former President Donald Trump said he hopes supporters of "Electric Car Lunacy" would "ROT IN HELL."

Trump's Monday afternoon Truth Social post continued a theme he had been developing with several other posts since Christmas Eve, attacking Justice Department Special Counsel Jack Smith, who is prosecuting two criminal cases against him.

The frontrunner of the 2024 presidential race for the Republican Party nomination added a missive against "THUGS," which he said were more "evil" and "sick" than all world leaders. In the grammatically confusing post, Trump also appeared to attack Israel, which Trump lumped in with Iran, as well as both Russia and Ukraine.

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[–] [email protected] 188 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

This Christmas, I wish trump will get anal cancer, rotting his ass out from bottom to top. I wish he spends the rest of his life in prison, while his ass rots. I wish his legacy is clearly articulated in well funded classrooms to the end of time as an example of a giant PoS getting into office because defunding of education finally caught up with public policy, and also, I wish he rots in his own personal hell for eternity. Fuck you DJT, you’re a shit stain on history.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 11 months ago

What a disgraceful sentiment at christmas! For all its flaws, anal cancer doesn't deserve to suffer like that.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago

That's his secret: he IS anal cancer. Trump is what happens when the cancer takes over the entire body. There's no part of him that isn't anal cancer already. His hair? Obviously anal cancer. That his face looks like a cancerous anus probably goes without saying. It'd be tragic if it weren't so damaging to the rest of us.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago

You had me on wishing him anal cancer. Enjoy your updoot. Merry Christmas!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

Anal cancer might explain the smell....

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[–] [email protected] 126 points 11 months ago

First they came for the African Americans, and I said nothing, for I was not African American.

Then, they came for the LGBTQ community, and I said nothing, for I was not LGBTQ.

Then they came for... The EV owners? I said nothing, because this was just getting bizzare.

[–] [email protected] 99 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Elon's response will surely be measured and professional.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I cannot stand either one of these assholes, I also cannot wait to see how this plays out, does Elon kiss the ring or risk losing what has to be an extremely significant chunk of his fans. This must be what Ken Watanabe felt like in Godzilla

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If it was anyone else we'd think it was parody but Trump really says these things

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think you're misreading the dynamics. Elon will absolutely not stand up to trump. He's a right-wing chud now, he needs Trump's base who love that he's sticking it to the woke libs because no one other than them like him anymore. He will ignore this.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Elon and Trump are like Bevis and Butthead

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

That’s ridiculous; Beavis and Butthead have way better senses of humor.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I feel sorry for the man whose heart is so filled with hate that he can't even take one day to step back from the political rhetoric, on the one day per year dedicated to peace and goodwill amongst fellow men.

It's such a small ask. "Merry Christmas, America!" and then turn off your phone for a day and spend time with your family, dude.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

And he's always been this way. I still remember, during the height of the pandemic, when he was asked what he would say to Americans scared about the deadly pandemic.

It was an easy, softball question. "I'd tell them that America is strong and together we'll get through this." There, I just made something up on the spot that the "America First" crowd would like.

But Trump didn't say that. Instead, he attacked the reporter for asking such a horrible question and called him names. People are scared about a deadly disease? That must be a personal attack against me!!!

It's so ridiculous that it would be unbelievable in fiction. You'd close the book or turn off the TV saying that this character was way too over the top. But that's Trump!

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 11 months ago

It's so frustrating that this sort of drivel ends up being elevated as serious politics.

I mean really, all they've got at this point is fear and anger and reactivity to anything that might be a change, and he's just charismatic enough to play them into wanting him to be their King.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 11 months ago (7 children)

I hate modern electric cars not because they don't have a gas guzzling engine, but because of the fact they're "modern" (proprietary software connected to the cellular network).

But of course, Trump only said this because all of his supporters drive gas guzzling behemoths of steel to compensate for something. And, of course, telling someone to rot in hell just because of a type of vehicle they like makes him seem like an incredibly mentally stable person...

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (5 children)

but because of the fact they’re “modern”

Yes, modern gas cars have proprietary software connected to cell networks to track you too.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

I'm a car guy and I'll always have gas powered hotrods but I get electric and look forward to doing electric swaps. I'm with you and have no interest in buying a car that is going to spy on me, no thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 11 months ago (6 children)

What a weird fucking thing to rage about.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He's raged about windmills, toilets, dishwashers, he's a fucking lunatic.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure he doesn't care about electric vehicles one way or the other. But he knows his followers will love it if he says these thing, so he does. And it helps to create a stronger feeling of us vs them. Easy pickings.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 11 months ago (3 children)

"Included also are World Leaders, both good and bad, but none of which are as evil and 'sick' as the THUGS we have inside our Country who, with their Open Borders, INFLATION, Afghanistan Surrender, Green New Scam, High Taxes, No Energy Independence, Woke Military, Russia/Ukraine, Israel/Iran, All Electric Car Lunacy, and so much more, are looking to destroy our once great USA." Trump posted. "MAY THEY ROT IN HELL."

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Biden, who is running with little competition for the Democratic party presidential nomination in 2024, struck a different tone with his Christmas message. He posted a video of the White House's holiday decorations overlaid with an audio track of him and First Lady Jill Biden reading the poem "The Night Before Christmas" by Clement Clark Moore.

Sigh.

We are so fucked.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 11 months ago (5 children)

In 2024, barring any real surprises, there will be an option between two old men... A senile fascist who literally quotes Hitler and a doddering old grandpa.

I'll take grandpa. The worst he'll do at this point is die.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (7 children)

For me, a queer atheist with a brown Jewish partner, there’s no question about me voting for Biden. It doesn’t matter mathematically because I live in a dark blue district in a dark blue state, but I’m going to cast that vote. I also recognize that the choice is between an elderly conservative with outdated ideas and the possible end of American democracy.

The reason why I think we are well and truly fucked is that our standard bearer is among the most milquetoast presidential office holders since Bush I. Neither the democrats nor the press has any idea how to deal with the existential crisis we are facing. Trump had his followers chanting “lock her up” against his political opponent. Biden is keeping the dignity of the office of the president.

I don’t know if there’s a better tactic, but people making millions of dollars as political consultants have had since 2015 to come up with a counter strategy, and this is the best they’ve given us. They do not know how to deal with a successful fascist populist.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And before anyone just indicate "Oh but they're in the White House". Let's not forget Melania Trump's perspective on Christmas at the White House in 2020.

Who gives a fuck about Christmas stuff and decoration? But I have to do it!

Also something Trump pointed out in the speech.

Afghanistan Surrender

Buddy Trump, you ordered the troops out of there. I mean it was "so bold™" that FoxNews was liberally sucking what can only be scientifically classified as Trump's penis. Biden was just following up with the order that you gave. WTF _ LOL?!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

Biden was just following up with the order that you gave. WTF _ LOL?!

The thing you need to remember, and it's hard because constant coverage has made us grow used to it, is that he's nuts.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The man is clinically senile. Why is he not in a home where he can paint pretty pictures of butterflies?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Dude that’s 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Big white house, can’t miss it.

Although he could just hang out on W’s ranch and spend the rest of his days water coloring there with him. And ol’ Georgie Boy will finally get to be the smartest person in the room.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure Dubya can't stand Drumpf and can't say I blame him.

[–] Squirrel 22 points 11 months ago

He's got to be one of the least likeable people on the planet. I can't think of a single positive quality of his that isn't immensely outweighed by negative caveats.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Why do Americans love so much to divide its people for the most arbitrary reasons?

[–] [email protected] 102 points 11 months ago (3 children)

*Conservatives.

It's the conservatives doing it. It always has been, it always will be. No need for enlightened centrism here. And don't pretend they don't do it outside the US because I follow world news.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

You're 100% right. The conservative groups always try to attract two types of people: nostalgic idiots pining for a past that never existed and braindead idiots who are easy to convince that one or more minority groups are responsible taking one or more things away from them. Sometimes these idiots overlap.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

We have a two party system.

We have the right, which is gradually shifting further and further conservative (really, let’s be honest now, at this point they aren’t conserving shit, they want regression). They market their platform primarily through fear.

Then there is the left. It’s the big tent party and has also gradually been shifting right to the point where the critical mass of the party appears slightly right of center on the global scale. They market their platform primarily through empathy.

I’m not saying which way is right, but I do have a good feeling of which approach is more beneficial to society and humanity as a whole.

Statistically, there are significantly more people who place themselves on the left. Which makes sense, they are the big tent party after all. But that doesn’t matter in our federal elections, because most of them congregate in smaller population centers (and this helps with the empathy angle, they are regularly exposed to people of all walks of life, while primarily rural conservatives interact very little outside their comparatively small social sphere). The voting system gives two votes to every state, plus a share of the 435 that gets divided up based on the states population. Then most states give all of their votes to whoever won the popular vote in their state.

Because of how the states tally their votes and break up their voting districts (because the party in charge gets to draw the maps), even a majority of people voting for one party can, and does, result in the state determining that the candidate with fewer total votes wins because they had won more districts. CGP Grey had a great video on this years ago, but using anthropomorphized animals as the presidential candidates, and talked about the strengths and weaknesses of our first-past-the-post voting system and on gerrymandering (the term for advantageously manipulating voting district maps).

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

I guess Trump is making the Two Minutes of Hate thing a reality...

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago

Sponsored by Exxon

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

Right here on Lemmy I wish he would rot in hell. Happy Holidays y'all

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Is he pretending to be anti Israel now cause he saw how support for them is going for Biden? Cause Trump even moved the embassy and is a big supporter of Netanyahu, so it's kinda silly he's now acting like he's against what's going on.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Trump is for whatever he thinks will get him elected based on the audience he is talking to at any given moment.

His true goal is to become a dictator.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Disliking electric car users that argue/vote against regular cars but also argue/vote against public transportation 👍

Disliking electric car users because 'machismo' tells them that they're somehow weaker than the regular car drivers 👎

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hmmm. Vote for a guy that is actually serious about the job (Joe) or this treasonous, wannabe dictator piece of shit? HOW ARE WE STILL EVEN TALKING ABOUT THIS?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

The news industry is a billion dollar business that thrives on your attention. Any headline like this is meant to get you engaged in the bullshit cycle.

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