Dana Bash on CNN calling the BS out

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[–] 220 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

Him: You’re not a scientist

Her: NEITHER ARE YOU ^(emphasis added)^

And then he continues to barf up the same conspiracy theories and lies on repeat that have been swilling around (disproven/unproven) for the last 15 years

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  • [+] 107 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 92 points 4 weeks ago* (2 children)

    The rest of the shit he says is just weird

    The rest of the shit he says is actively dangerous to your health and mental wellbeing.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

    There's gotta be a word for when people say baseline obvious shit like eat healthy and exercise before going off the deep end with pseudoscience bullshit. It's like they go, "I'm normal, but also [thing a nornal person wouldn't say.]"

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  • [–] 41 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Motte and bailey. Make wild claim, retreat to safe claim when challenged, go back to wild claim.

    Jordan Peterson is the master of it.

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  • [–] 38 points 4 weeks ago (32 children)

    you should eat non processed foods

    It's kinda true... But less than you'd think. I get that it can be a convenient shorthand, but even the scientific field of nutrition can't agree on a good definition of processed foods, let alone ultra processed foods. As soon as you break it down to "you should eat a lot of vegetables, legumes, and whole grains, and not too much sugar, meat, salt, or saturated fats" you actually remove any predictive power that the "ultra processed" label has, so we can understand this concept much better in terms of the basic nutritional guidelines which have changed very little over the last 50 years except for some better understanding of the role of unsaturated fats. Meanwhile, on the contrary, totally unprocessed raw milk, minimally processed beef fat etc., which are favourites of the MAHA crowd, are extremely unhealthy. So even there his advice is quite dangerous if you actually look in to it.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 weeks ago

    It's also very difficult statistically to remove the co-morbidity factors:

    populations that eat more "processed" foods !especially in the US! are poor, in toxic environs, stressed, over-policed, incarcerated, discriminated, unstable housing healthcare employment, using "coping" mechanisms, in a food desert, multigenerational defecit of various "health skills", no "free" time for cooking and exercise, etc etc etc

    If they had healthcare, housing and union jobs ... stats wouldn't be near so bad for them

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  • [–] 15 points 4 weeks ago* (7 children)

    "Processed foods" has the same energy to me as when people say food is bad because it has "chemicals" in it.

    When following a recipe I start with ingredients and I end up with a prepared meal that I processed. We need to identify and specify the processes that causes problems in food instead of giving that food a label that could be applied to any meal you create.

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    [–] 190 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

    He doesn't even believe in germ theory of disease. It's hard to think of a less qualified person to be secretary of health.

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  • [–] 47 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    He was hired to take revenge on the medical industry because Covid embarrassed Trump and probably caused him to lose the election.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    I was so worried that covid would be the ultimate excuse for him to rally people over his failing policies and crashing economy (we were heading to depression / crash before covid!) Then he fucked up the easiest handout of public good and caused millions to needlessly die.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 weeks ago

    Then he fucked up the easiest handout of public good and caused millions to needlessly die.

    Well you see he thought people in "blue cities" would be the ones to die and was 100% ok with that.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Which is crazy because for any sane president, covid amounted to serving up the election on a silver platter.

    "Follow the guidance of the scientists and we'll all get through this together." would have gotten him north of 65% of the total votes, and probably near the Reagan/Mondale level of electoral college victory.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 weeks ago* (2 children)

    He can believe or not believe however the fuck much he wants. I still don't know why "belief" is used so interchangeably with understanding, by basically everyone. When this angonizing hemorrhoid says "I don't believe in germ theory" what he really is saying is "I don't understand germ theory". Germs are there whether he believes or not.

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    [–] 116 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    It's really super neat the way the radical right vilifies smart people while desperately pretending to be them. Very cool and stable worldview that will bring nothing but good things.

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  • [–] 23 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    "you're not a scientist with all your "research" and "peer reviewed studies" and stupid "evidence"! You're not even wearing a lab coat! I've got a lab coat! You've got to respect me because my lab coat and my name tag says I'm a scientist! This guy doesn't even have a name tag c'mon."

    /s hopefully obviously

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  • [–] 11 points 4 weeks ago

    "You think learning the specifics and intricacies and dedicating a chunk of your life to furthering your understanding of complex systems and decades navigating the rigors of academic study makes you a scientist or something?"

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    [–] 56 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    How can you share something this juicy and not provide the video?

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  • [–] 80 points 4 weeks ago (9 children)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPP5exb-2rw

    15:45

    I have to say that until I went looking for this video I had never heard him speak.. What the heck is with his voice?

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  • [–] 91 points 4 weeks ago* (5 children)

    He developed spasmodic dysphonia (involuntary larynx contractions) in 1996 at age 42.

    It was caused by eating tainted hippopotamus meat. He had hit the hippo while driving a mack truck near Pablo Escobar's compound in the middle of the night, pursued by paramilitary forces. He returned 2 days later under cover of darkness to eat its liver and testicles, which an alternative health guru told him contained antioxidants and hormones that could prevent aging. He wound up about a week later in an El Salvadoran prison after rampaging through various towns in Colombia, Panama, and El Salvador causing property damage to several farmers' vegetable stalls, soiling himself repeatedly, and accosting locals. Eye witnesses report that he had the voice at the time of these incidents. The US had him extradited soon after agreeing that they'd try him, but they dropped the charges on administrative grounds almost immediately.

    That's probably not true - no one really knows why spasmodic dysphonia happens. Seems to be something to do with your Basal Ganglia.

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  • [–] 52 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

    Eh.

    Republicans crash out 24/7/365. Doesn't matter. Our system is too flawed to hold them accountable and our populace is too stupid to prevent them from having power.

    What does crashing out matter if you still get to run the show? I guess eventually the show collapses. But then we're all fucked because the system crashes.

    I've been watching Republicans crash out my entire life. Doesn't matter when the populace is this braindead stupid.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 weeks ago

    Exactly. Nothing is fucking happening to any of these people that demonstrate how unfit for office they are every time they open their mouths. It creates a feeling of helplessness and a fury that will not subside without accountability.

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    [–] 33 points 4 weeks ago

    But he plays one on TV in government!

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  • [–] 30 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    The top comments on that YouTube video are insane

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  • [–] 26 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    Every time he talks it sounds like a boomer reading SaRcAsTiC TeXt

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    [–] 24 points 4 weeks ago

    Man, that hype campaign for the new toxic avenger movie is getting out of hand.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 weeks ago

    He's the anti-scientist for Christ's sake!

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  • [–] 12 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

    This is a classic example of that "protests too much" Shakespeare line.

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