Oh look, psychopath CEOs are helping people die faster. And we still do nothing.
"Your money or your life."
The better question is why does their employer have access to their private medical data
My understanding is that this isn't what happened.
Meta laid off a bunch of employees. Meta claims they used an AI to gauge employees' productivity as a basis for who they laid off. The employees are accusing Meta of laying off employees who took too much medical leave.
Sounds like zuck needs to have irreversible health issues~
He'll spent billions to treat himself and will still do this kind of shit.
Always remember these people consider themselves above the crowd and think it's completely normal they're treated differently.
That's not what they mean.
This is truly sad. If this technology is going to work like claimed in the future and diagnosed early breast cancer in just 5% of people it could help save 32000 people a year and help a lot of people who don't die but have to go though a horrible treatment process.
There is no relationship between the two types of AI featured in the post. They're completely unrelated stories.
That’s bullshit and you know it.
None of these models exist in a vacuum. If one company has a specific model that another doesn’t, other companies will buy access to it. That’s the entire business model.
Meta doesn’t need to use MetaAI for it. They’ll use PharmaAI for $1M a year if it saves them $1M and $1 by firing people that could cost them.
And PharmaAI isn’t gonna only sell access to medical schools and hospitals for life saving purposes. They’re gonna sell to whoever pays.
And AI routinely breaks the rules if you prompt it correctly. Convincingly tell it to ignore HIPAA, and it’ll give you everything it knows about a person. If hospital A (conveniently in network with Metas offered health plans) uses PharmaAI and Meta uses PharmaAI, then Meta will inevitably have access to the data. With enough money or the right prompting. These shithead companies have exactly zero privacy safeguards.
We're not talking about vague hypotheticals. We're talking about a real incident described in a real lawsuit that occurred in the real world. Please put away your hypotheticals, they have no place here.
There is zero allegation in the lawsuit filed by the plaintiffs that Meta used a cancer-screening AI. It seems that Meta just tried to get an AI to plan their layoffs, and they fed it data based on past layoffs. Since human beings discriminate against people with disabilities, the AI trained on their work also discriminates against people with disabilities.
I'm not going to address the tangent you went on. If you want to talk about some other hypothetical scenario, have fun. But I was talking about the real case being discussed here.
This reminds me of the movie Gattaca. A future world where your path in life is heavily influenced based on your genes.
Unlike our noble society of today where people are not judged based on looks, intelligence, strength or people skills.
This sounds American.
It can happen to every and any healthcare system, insurance, institution having data in the cloud: if the host has activities in the US, it's at legal risk of data being demanded under US laws ; if not, there's always the risk of a leak.
That Meta used it so directly is very Meta. But you don't know what your employer has on you thanks to big data. You're in debt? Well, that means you desperately needs the job: no bonus, no raise. You have health issue? Let's put you on the red list: no promotion, favored name in case of layoff. Etc.
Fuck yeah
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Lives that can be saved via early treatments, instead used to profile people based on their health conditions, disabilities and other factors ismorbidly sickening, We truly do think that Neural Learning Model can be a strong tool as a data sorting algorithm in health and science, but cannot give us answers itself, only point out things we can’t see
"Technology" under capitalism is a regressive force for violence, theft, and control.
Technology enabled new skills, and then these are used with force to gain power.
Technology enabled current skills to be done at a larger scale, essentially creating new skills that are then applied with force to gain power.
The people with the skills to use technology are not the ones with the power.
Their bosses are the ones with power, and they don't know fucking anything.
Yup, exploitation of labor per usual.
But when I say 'skills' I didn't mean individual coding ability, I mean like Analytics. Skills that an entire corporation wields. Monitoring weather and hiking prices for utilities during a national emergency incrementally or 'intelligently'. The way VW cheated on emissions. The way flock uses optical text recognition to read license plates and effectively creates a massive surveillance apparatus.
Use tech to do a thing, but scale it up wide and quick, abuse it before the law can catch up.
The Supreme Court just ruled that it's not racism unless someone specifically points at an action and says "I'd like to do that racism, please!" and so I expect them to use that precedent to target people with disabilities. "They didn't say it out loud, and even though a policy specifically harmed the disabled, it doesn't count"
Edit. Louisiana v Callais
Ah you see your honour it can't be illegal, because it's actually more profitable this way, and so conform to the natural order of the brotherhood of the ever rising line (forever may it rise, straight and true)
The SC just went to Congress yesterday to beg for money for security. I wonder why they need security if they are doing their jobs?......
This is basically it and how I see it working at places I've worked at. HR gathers information about you and then uses it to fire you when firing you is necessary....when you're no longer needed. So for example if you're an assembly worker and your product is end of production, you're done. Now engineering goes to work on a new trinket and you gotta wait until they are done. But when engineering is done, they're fucked. Now you're king because there's production to be done while engineering scrambles to figure out a new project that management wants to work on.
Alright, if you look at this story from a more reputable source (Reuters), it's quite a bit different. Meta isn't accused of using AI with people's medical information to make early diagnoses and lay them off. Instead,
According to the complaint, Meta used a number of internal AI-assisted systems to score and rank employees on a termination list. Those included "Metamate," a large language model assistant; an employee-trained "second brain" that tracked workers' communications and documents; and a productivity score drawn from scanning keystrokes, screen content, emails and browser history, according to the lawsuit.
The 26 plaintiffs, who filed the lawsuit anonymously, are accusing Meta of violating federal and state laws that ban discrimination or retaliation against workers who have disabilities, take medical leave or are pregnant. They also claim that Meta failed to test its AI systems for bias in violation of recently adopted California and New York City laws.
So it's still shitty workplace surveillance and discrimination but not the same kind of surveillance and discrimination alleged in the Twitter posts. Meta is using AI to try to rank workers' productivity (on a bunch of shitty metrics) in a way that may discriminate against people with disabilities or who take medical leave or who are pregnant.
Only in 'Murica would life-saving developments be used to deny people treatment so that some rich cunts can accumulate even more wealth
It's a broken country, and I can't wait to see it fall
Broken implies that this wasn’t the goal.
the goal is broken
Reason 748 on why the US health system is fucked up.
Anywhere else in the world, this saves lives.
Reason 748 on why the US is fucked up.
FTFY
Funny that this isnt even "AI". This is image and pattern recognition software that's been used in medicine for years and years. The AI part is that it's scraping all your medical data together into a single RAG so they can use it to fuck you over as efficiently as possible in the name of making more money.
Pattern recognition was “AI” until LLM took over almost all meaning of the phrase. One of the reasons corporations were supposed to store everything (storage is cheap) was to feed pattern recognition models.
In general people don't really hate AI itself but the absolute shitcocks in charge of it and their methods of using it.
Fuck AI
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AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.