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Entirely unsurprising, but I’m still very tired

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[-] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 79 points 2 weeks ago

those who take financial risks are rewarded the most

That's the problem, the people who actually make the thing get nothing but the rich fuckers who restrained the project every step of the way and hindered the actual creative process in favour of profit are the only ones who benefit.

[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 56 points 2 weeks ago

I truly don’t know if the world will ever reach a point where we can have a genuine conversation about shit like this. It always seems to evolve into the average person taking the side of the business person and arguing that the “complainer” knew what they signed up for

Every conversation about exploitation gets derailed by capitalist apologists repeating the same set of talking points while deepthroating the boat. Sad

[-] fervent_apathy@anarchist.nexus 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

"They were asking for it. Did you see what they were wearing? A uniform for christ' sake" -average person discussing any form of employee exploitation.

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[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 57 points 2 weeks ago

those who take financial risks

Fuck offjagoff

[-] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

Read the actual statement instead of falling for ragebait.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 49 points 2 weeks ago

And yet not having enough finances can be a financial risk

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 29 points 2 weeks ago

...nor do the wealthy ever have any negative outcomes. If their investment fails, they start asking for government bailouts or filing insurance claims. There's never any actual risk. Just different directions from where they get their money.

[-] haxboar@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago

Reminds me of Musk's infinite buying strategy:

Levchin was at a friend’s bachelor pad hanging out with Musk. Some people were playing a high-stakes game of Texas Hold ‘Em. Although Musk was not a card player, he pulled up to the table. “There were all these nerds and sharpsters who were good at memorizing cards and calculating odds,” Levchin says. “Elon just proceeded to go all in on every hand and lose. Then he would buy more chips and double down. Eventually, after losing many hands, he went all in and won. Then he said “Right, fine, I’m done.” It would be a theme in his life: avoid taking chips off the table; keep risking them.

Moral of the story: Be rich enough to keep trying

[-] ghosts@hexbear.net 21 points 2 weeks ago

The Martingale strategy lmao

My theory is that nazi musk has ruined every social interaction he's ever had

[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago

No no you see you can only take a “risk” if you are a serious person with capital to lose smuglord

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[-] Sevenless@lemmygrad.ml 42 points 2 weeks ago

The artists and crew took their own risk of doing this film and not doing something else that made even minimum wage. Putting in money you get in your sleep is not a risk.

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[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 42 points 2 weeks ago

the "risk" they take is that if it fails they might have to become a worker

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[-] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 42 points 2 weeks ago

Go ahead, just say you wanted to be the millionaire. Thats what you wanted.

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[-] limer@lemmy.ml 40 points 2 weeks ago

That’s a boycott from me towards his future movies

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago

Curry Barker - YouTube Creators Who Have Made the Jump to Hollywood qin-shi-huangdi-fireball

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm10533874/

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[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 29 points 2 weeks ago

When you put time and reputation on a film are you not also taking financial risk? If the film flops then odds are you will get less work, and less paying work. This art director was treated like an unpaid intern.

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[-] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago

Oh look, turns out it"s a class thing and there are no good/bad generations

[-] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

Read the actual statement instead of falling for ragebait.

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[-] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago

Is he the dingus who said The Simpsons invented the monkey's paw tale?

[-] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It is, though he didn't technically say that but clearly didn't mention the base story so it's safe to assume he's totally unaware of it. He also said "live TV" when referring to a Simpsons rerun.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

Wow

Just. Wow.

I have got to get my shit together and find a financier for my movie, Death by Cloud

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[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

i guess an animated rerun is live compared to on-demand content.

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

as always, piracy stays winning.

it's hilarious to me when the studio reputation management campaigns come out and act like the people on the high seas are stealing money from the key grip and the hair & makeup people. like those people ever get points, even on these "startup" type indie projects.

nope, it's all just shoestring corner-cutting on labor allowing the "investor" to brag about how they 10-100x'd due to their shrewd strategy of "having a bunch of money already".

[-] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Hexbear dont fall for misinformation ragebait challenge (IMPOSSIBLE):

Kind of a shitty reduction of his entire statement, so one can do ragebait. His actual statement isn't some out of touch thing, but an explanation of how the money gets shared and why. Hes not talking about himself.
He also wasn't a millionaire or someone who financed the movie with daddys money, as far as Im aware, so I dont know where users get that idea.

Not to mention the vast majority of the money doesnt go to him, but to the supplier, who paid millions to have it in cinemas and stuff. The supplier takes almost all the profits.
I dont know how much he has personally made, but I reckon if it was enough to pay out bonuses, those bonuses would first go to people who were either volunteering or people who were on set for the entire period of production.

On top of that the art director took a job in an indie film where she got paid 300$ a day. She was fine with the rate until the movie saw success. She didnt get ripped off, she got paid a fair wage for her work, yet now pretends she didnt.

Edit: here is her statement

[-] SickSemper@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago

nominative determinism strikes again

[-] Nacarbac@hexbear.net 21 points 2 weeks ago

The coal miners didn't expect to strike gold, so they didn't get ripped off when the mine owner took it all.

[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

To be fair technically they're just as ripped off as when it was just coal

[-] zedcell@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 2 weeks ago

If the film had a small budget it's not like the worker who took out a few months to work on it for $7000 has taken on much less risk than the writer or producer that chipped in $50,000. This is capitalist apologia. The risk the art lead had was if the movie flopped they might not get much work ever again, leaving them destitute and having to pick up work elsewhere. The same risk that someone who offered up a little seed capital to kick the project off.

[-] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The art lead got paid 300$ per day. They were not on set for several months. They did not offer up a little seed capital, they took a job and got paid a pretty good wage. Especially for a movie that had a budget of 250k.

None of this is capitalist apologia, as Curry Barker is not in control of distribution of the movie. The distributors retain the vast majority of profits.
Having saved up some unknown amount of money that one can pour into a passion project does not make one a capitalist.

[-] Soot@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

??? the post image actually pretty well summarises his statement. So god knows why you're really worked up about this.

[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like you’re a true leftist

[-] architect 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

$300 a day?! Slave fucking wages!

Honestly these artists bring the rest of us down. It’s $2000 a day for me, and I’m not in Hollywood. I’m booked for months.

I’m paying a tattoo artist $250 an hour. He’s booked for months.

Why are people working on films for nothing!

[-] SickSemper@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The industry is so fucked right now that people take non-union work at shit wages with no benefits. people just want work and don’t care too much where it comes from. that’s what her last line about flipping the project refers to, if the production turned union partway through, that number increases drastically and the workers gets benefits. the producers then argue they can’t afford that but that’s besides the point

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

people just want work and don’t care too much where it comes from

can't afford to care

[-] SickSemper@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

precisely. 300 dollars a day is better than 0, even if it’s a pittance compared to the union compensation

[-] Jabril@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

There are only a certain amount of jobs made with a budget that will pay this each year and there are many more people who need work than how many those can hire.

$1500-$2000 day rate is a normal rate for an industry professional who is booked for months but there are probably dozens or hundreds of people for every role in every city who are not getting those rates which is why you are booked out for months. Those roles are going to you but the dozens of other people who need work are forced to accept less or else they won't be hired over the dozens of others who will accept it.

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[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

i guarantee you that you're making that money because of who you know, not what you know. That isn't the same as saying you don't know skills worth that value, I'm saying you would not receive even a fraction of that value without whatever connections got you to where you are. See Jabril's comment for more

[-] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago

She didnt get ripped off, she got paid a fair wage for her work, yet now pretends she didnt.

If your labor earns millions for the people who didn't do the labor and you aren't paid the resulting profits that is robbery, this is a basic position for anyone claiming to be anti-capitalist.

[-] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, it's a very strange attitude for a long time Hexbear user to have, I think they got fixated on the idea of this being "ragebait" and raged so hard about that themselves that they ended up forgetting basic leftist principles and basic facts about how capitalism works.

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[-] OffSeasonPrincess@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

Difficult to have any enthusiasm for any "indie boom"

[-] Juice@midwest.social 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Wow hexbear comments section goes so hard.

The financers/producers openly dissuaded union work because of the "tight budgets." As a result, the workers got fucked over while the financiers made out. I wonder how a film with such a tight budget, was able to afford the kind of marketing that allowed it to catapult to this kind of breakaway success story? I guess its just that good of a movie, word of mouth right? Marketplace of ideas, surely not a concerted effort by various sectors of the movie industry to promote a union-busting film, to lend legitimacy to a new business model that ensures even more technical trades get forced to take lower wages in order to return profits to those who took "financial risks."

Indie films dont have the same level of engagement as larger blockbusters by unions, particularly the crew union IATSE. The unions just dont really keep track of indie movies. They also have a lot of pull with american production and distribution companies. So the movie was made for 750k, and sold for 15m (what a roi!) to a Canadian distributor, bypassing american union reach, and the distributor took on marketing. They used "guerrilla marketing" tactics to lend some bona fide to the low budget.

There have been a lot of films in recent years made for exceedingly low budgets, using this indie movie loophole and trying out various other tactics like filming in Las Vegas where union penetration is lower, though this often still leads to the crews seeking out and organizing union contracts. None so far has been this big of a success, so Obsession is being pushed in every which way. Its the realization of a long project by movie production companies to skirt union oversight. This always leads to more dangerous conditions and lower wages across the board.

I dont know about you all, but I'm never watching this shit ass movie, and I will never watch anything by this director/production company, if I can help it.

[-] Jabril@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

The writer/director having his own huge organic following via the comedy group definitely helped get the funding and get the movie to be more successful than if he was a first time writer/director making a real indie film. This makes it seem like they knew there would be a profit and they should have offered bonuses and extra pay to the crew based on profit.

So if the movie makes x amount over the budget (which means the risk takers got all their money back so their risk is covered) then all the crew get a certain percentage based on their role. Then everyone makes money, including the "risk takers," and the more money the film makes, the better it is for everyone. Even if the distributors got 50% profit after getting their investment back and the other 50 was split between the crew, it would be incredible bonuses for the crew and the distributor would be making an absurd amount of profit.

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[-] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

Read the actual statement instead of falling for ragebait.

New tagline material?

[-] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

Obsession bad now Kane ParSONS the first 21 year old man would never smh

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